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Whooter:
Anyone who has worked in a wilderness program or had a child attend one will tell you that the program shows positive results fairly quickly.  There is no question about that.  There are also independent studies which have been performed with oversight from third parties indicating a success rate above 80%.
So with that being said the next question is what is the next step?  Wilderness programs remove your child from a toxic environment, stabilize them and places them on a healthy path.

This also gives (Professionals)therapists a chance to determine what the next step should be while they are there.  Will the child do well going home?  Going home with family therapy?  Are there changes that need to be made at home?  Etc.  since wilderness is so brief the changes are not long lasting unless root cause is established and the right changes are made.  Typically the child moves on to a longer term facility or Therapeutic boarding school where the child will have the chance to grow and advance in a healthy environment and insure the changes are long lasting.



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Pile of Dead Kids:
Hey, copypaste Whooter! Try reading what one of the other Whooters said in this thread before you post.

Nihilanthic:
The whooters kept notes?

Bad ones, sadly.  :beat:

I've never had any problem with being extremely articulate or intellectually rigorous. Check my post history.

So yeah, weren't we talking about how some idiot was trying to have us help her justify her stupid behavior? Or did she decide to fucking listen?

9403390:
I can’t speak to all wilderness places because I only worked at one and it was a while ago now. But be sceptical about progress. I knew one guy who was there because he took a lot of drugs and liked speed in particular. He admitted to me that he really craved them a lot and this had not stopped wanting them at all during his time there. But in terms of doing everything he was supposed to the kid was a star. He progressed in record time. 2 days after he graduated he was back on the first level because he stole his kid brother’s ADD meds. In hindsight it was pretty unethical for them to have ever taken the kid but they did twice. He ended up at a treatment centre in florida. His mother was enamored with it because they had family down there and at the end of the day kids got to stay with families instead of somewhere sterile. This was 99 so I have no idea whether the place was legit or if it was just another of these places that is just abusive. At the time it sounded perfect and I felt glad that the kid didn’t have to do wilderness anymore.
So basically if your kid comes home from wilderness and it turns out that she has not progressed as well as you thought don’t let them tell you it is a good idea for her to go back. It wont’ be. I feel for you and your girl but keep her at home if you possibly can. So many places that sound good on paper turn out not to be.

Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "9403390" ---He ended up at a treatment centre in florida. His mother was enamored with it because they had family down there and at the end of the day kids got to stay with families instead of somewhere sterile. This was 99 so I have no idea whether the place was legit or if it was just another of these places that is just abusive. At the time it sounded perfect and I felt glad that the kid didn’t have to do wilderness anymore.
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Sounds suspiciously like Straight or a descendant and how they got around regulations on residential places.  Since the kids went to "a" home (most times it wasn't their home but another, higher phaser -more indoctrinated client-) at night, they weren't considered inpatient.  No matter that very often we were in "the building" until 2,3 or 4 in the morning and had to be back at 6 or 7, sometimes with over an hour ride there.  No matter that we were locked in the bedrooms at night, windows nailed shut (can anyone say fire codes violation?) with no mattresses or access to a bathroom.  No matter that if we refused to write an MI (moral inventory) they would keep us awake for days on end and ration food to the point of starvation.  It was all for our own good!!  

 :beat:  :ftard:

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