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IBM's new foretelling software to be used by Florida DOC
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I dont see where this software violates any human rights. The whole idea is to help these kids so that they dont end up in adult facilities when they get older. I havent been able to identify any down side to this. It is very proactive in my opinion.
I just hope they collect data so that they can measure how effective the software use is.
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IBM has a fine history of involvement in keeping track of the whereabouts, personal histories, mortality rates and other pertinent incidentals of targeted populations.
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Wow, Ursus, you are bit rigid there. Maybe? Lol That image you posted was 1937. Hitler was looked up to by most of the world and was Time Magazines’ “Man of the Year” in 1939. Do you also feel Time Magazine promotes genocide? Should we avoid reading it?
Are you serious? Do you really discredit a software program designed today because of a picture of three men depicting “an assumed conversation” taken over 70 years ago? I thought you were smarter than that.
Here is the prime minister of England with Adolf Hitler. Were they conspiring about killing all the jews? Should Jewish people not buy products from England?
Very weak argument Ursus, you didn’t even have to read the article to draw that conclusion. Your mind is closing more and more with each passing day.
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quest:
Come on Whooter, that was relevant and funny and you know it. So you can’t see the problem with a state buying into an IBM version of an E-meter?
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "quest" ---Come on Whooter, that was relevant and funny and you know it. So you can’t see the problem with a state buying into an IBM version of an E-meter?
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I agree it was funny. But the scary part is I think Ursus was serious when he tried to discredit the software by saying the company that developed it had a meeting with Hitler 70 years ago. Ursus has used this same mentality saying that programs were rooted from some brainwashing process used in the 1940’s so therefore they must brainwash today. If he can make himself believe that then he can easily believe the Hitler connection. Do you see what I mean?
Guest, it seems you have not read the article either. There is no E-meter. It is an analytical tool used to predict risk factors associated with kids who are in juvy detention and how they can best be helped based on their past and present environment. No one is going to be persecuted for crimes they haven’t committed yet.
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Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I dont see where this software violates any human rights. The whole idea is to help these kids so that they dont end up in adult facilities when they get older. I havent been able to identify any down side to this. It is very proactive in my opinion.
I just hope they collect data so that they can measure how effective the software use is.
--- End quote ---
IBM has a fine history of involvement in keeping track of the whereabouts, personal histories, mortality rates and other pertinent incidentals of targeted populations.
--- End quote ---
Wow, Ursus, you are bit rigid there. Maybe? Lol That image you posted was 1937. Hitler was looked up to by most of the world and was Time Magazines’ “Man of the Year” in 1939. Do you also feel Time Magazine promotes genocide? Should we avoid reading it?
Are you serious? Do you really discredit a software program designed today because of a picture of three men depicting “an assumed conversation” taken over 70 years ago? I thought you were smarter than that.
Here is the prime minister of England with Adolf Hitler. Were they conspiring about killing all the jews? Should Jewish people not buy products from England?
Very weak argument Ursus, you didn’t even have to read the article to draw that conclusion. Your mind is closing more and more with each passing day.
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Whoa there horsie and Lol x 10! You're being a mite bit defensive there, eh? All I did was make an observation, made umpteen times before by countless others, and provide an historical photo. No argument made. I didn't even extrapolate. No need... You were the one to do that for me! :D
Why... if I didn't know better, and to be sure, I don't, I'd venture that you have substantial ideological and financial interests vested in denying IBM's involvement in the machinery of World War II. Perhaps, given IBM's focus in recent history, even some involvement in the software industry?
I didn't even mention IBM's work in customizing the punch cards to the Nazis' specifications.
Nor did I mention their work for the other side. Mmm. Much fodder for speculation here.
But I can see that this conversation is disturbing you to no end! You've even resorted to personal insults, which you usually reserve for others who are a tad... more... blunt.
Tut tut. Methinks ya played your cards too soon on this one... :D
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "quest" ---Come on Whooter, that was relevant and funny and you know it. So you can’t see the problem with a state buying into an IBM version of an E-meter?
--- End quote ---
I agree it was funny. But the scary part is I think Ursus was serious when he tried to discredit the software by saying the company that developed it had a meeting with Hitler 70 years ago. Ursus has used this same mentality saying that programs were rooted from some brainwashing process used in the 1940’s so therefore they must brainwash today. If he can make himself believe that then he can easily believe the Hitler connection. Do you see what I mean?
Guest, it seems you have not read the article either. There is no E-meter. It is an analytical tool used to predict risk factors associated with kids who are in juvy detention and how they can best be helped based on their past and present environment. No one is going to be persecuted for crimes they haven’t committed yet.
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Nice try, Whooter, but... Did anyone ever tell you that when you try too hard, you give yourself away? This latest piece is just icing on the cake you presented earlier. I think ya need another cuppa coffee. I'd say this is a classic case of exaggeration in an attempt to attack credibility.
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It's called "group management," and Whooter buys into it big time. Gotta keep track of and control all of them hamsters!
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