Skull & Bones

[Antigen]

There's a discussion going on in the Teen Help forum under the topic "Must Read: Does Hillary's "Global Village" include "EG" Programs?" that ambled onto politics, religion and the scary Skull & Bones story. I can't say whether this stuff is more or less reliable than your typical CNN fluff job. But it is a lot more interesting.

Eventually, S&B came to be dominated by BROWN BROTHERS HARRIMAN, the largest private investment bank in AMERICA. The CEO of this power group, Averell Harriman, was the mentor of George Bush's father, Prescott Bush. George Bush's grandfather George Herbert Walker, served as president of BROWN BROTHERS HARRIMAN. The Bush family has SPENT three generations in service to the Harriman interests. That is why it is downright nefarious that it was the widow of Averell Harriman, Pamela Harriman, who was the principle backer of Bill Clinton for President. When Clinton lost the campaign for Governor of Arkansas, it was Pamela who picked him up, dusted him off and made him chairman of PAM-PAC--the largest fund raising source for the Democratic
Party. Some cynics think that George Bush is still president, using Bill Clinton as a front, just as he had used Ronald Reagan. Remember, anyone who wanted to meet with President Reagan had to first go through Bush's former campagn manager, Chief of Staff James Baker.

Full article: http://indymedia.org/front.php3?article ... up=webcast

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[anon]

The abpve seems to be a bad link - maybe you can check it and try again?
I'd like to see the artical.

[Antigen]

Typo. My bad. Try it now.

To the extent that a society limits its government to policing functions which curb the individuals who engage in aggressive and criminal actions, and conducts its economic affairs on the basis of free and willing exchange, to that extent domestic peace prevails. When a society departs from this norm, its governing class begins, in effect, to make war upon the rest of the nation. A situation is created in which everyone is victimized by everyone else under the fiction of each living at the expense of all.

--Edmund A. Opitz

[anon]

This subject just fascinates me!
It seems so crazy to think a hand full of powerful men could be running the whole show, so to speak; and yet at the same time - its so believable!
From my perspective, its also interesting how all the secret societies have such deep occultic roots. They are all very clearly satanic, when one learns about the blood oaths, and the pagan beliefs and practices they all incorporate.
You can't read very long about any of them, and not run across a connection to higher order Masonry - About which, they themselves have stated, (the Higher order Masons) have the seething power of Lucifer in their hands.
Its not widely known; seldom explained in history class, that the Nazis & SS were deeply emeshed in the occult and believed the power of the pagan faith they had resurrected, would lead them to certain victory.
Some believe WWII was a kind of trial run - what is called a prefillment of prophecy. Some think there is a phenomenon in Biblical Prophecy - were the prophecy comes to pass in a minor way; the prefillment; And then later the actual event occurs - the Full fillment.
Its become my belief that these secret society groups are to be the political and economic power behind the Beast when he rises.
The stage is being set.

[Froderik]

Also, a little known historical fact: After WWII, the US gov't employed the same German chemical manufacturers that produced substances like zyklon-b (I can't believe I remembered its name) which were used to snuff the Jews in the gas ovens or chambers or whatever.  :scared:

[kaydeejaded]

speechless

rare thing indeed

An Animated Cartoon Theology:
1. People are animals.
2. The body is mortal and subject to incredible pain.
3. Life is antagonistic to the living.
4. The flesh can be sawed, crushed, frozen, stretched, burned, bombed, and plucked for music.
5. The dumb are abused by the smart and the smart destroyed by their own cunning.
6. The small are tortured by the large and the large destroyed by their own momentum.
7. We are able to walk on air, but only as long as our illusion supports us.
-- E. L. Doctorow "The Book of Daniel"

[anon]

Since we wondered into the mystical and prophetic; And since tomorow is Rosh Hashana, or the Feats of Trumpets; I thought this might be of interest. I have only copied a portion of the article. It may be read in its entirety at:


http://www.lamblion.com/prophecy/Jews-I ... ews-10.php




What the Jewish people did not seem to realize is that all of the feasts were also symbolic types. In other words, they were prophetic in nature, each one pointing in a unique way to some aspect of the life and work of the promised Messiah.
1) Passover - Pointed to the Messiah as our passover lamb whose blood would be shed for our sins. Jesus was crucified on the day of preparation for the Passover, at the same time that the lambs were being slaughtered for the Passover meal that evening.
2) Unleavened Bread - Pointed to the Messiah's sinless life, making Him the perfect sacrifice for our sins. Jesus' body was in the grave during the first days of this feast, like a kernel of wheat planted and waiting to burst forth as the bread of life.
3) First Fruits - Pointed to the Messiah's resurrection as the first fruits of the righteous. Jesus was resurrected on this very day, which is one of the reasons that Paul refers to him in I Corinthians 15:20 as the "first fruits from the dead."
4) Harvest or Pentecost - (Called Shavuot today.) Pointed to the great harvest of souls, both Jew and Gentile, that would come into the kingdom of God during the Church Age. The Church was actually established on this day when the Messiah poured out the Holy Spirit and 3,000 souls responded to Peter's first proclamation of the Gospel.
The long interval of three months between Harvest and Trumpets pointed to the current Church Age, a period of time that was kept as a mystery to the Hebrew prophets in Old Testament times.
That leaves us with the three fall feasts which are yet to be fulfilled in the life and work of the Messiah. Because Jesus literally fulfilled the first four feasts and did so on the actual feast days, I think it is safe to assume that the last three will also be fulfilled and that their fulfillment will occur on the actual feast days. We cannot be certain how they will be fulfilled, but my guess is that they most likely have the following prophetic implications:
5) Trumpets - (Called Rosh Hashana today.) Points to the Rapture when the Messiah will appear in the heavens as a Bridegroom coming for His bride, the Church. The Rapture is always associated in Scripture with the blowing of a loud trumpet (I Thessalonians 4:13-18 and I Corinthians 15:52)
6) Atonement - (Called Yom Kippur today.) Points to the day of the Second Coming of Jesus when He will return to earth. That will be the day of atonement for the Jewish remnant when they "look upon Him whom they have pierced," repent of their sins, and receive Him as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10 and Romans 11:1-6, 25-36).
7) Tabernacles - (Called Sukkot today.) Points to the Lord's promise that He will once again tabernacle with His people when He returns to reign over all the world from Jerusalem (Micah 4:1-7).

[Anonymous]

http://store.aetv.com/html/search/index ... &x=12&y=12

Worth buying if your intrested in the subject.

[Anonymous]

This might be the one I'm thinking of - sounds more like it; But I'm not sure they are the same program - I don't think so - I think this one is the more detailed _

http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=70720

[anon]

http://www.orwelltoday.com/

I think the above link might beof some intrest.

I've also found a very Very intresting little book

The New World Order:
the ancient plan of secret societies

by
William T. Still



[ This Message was edited by: Anon on 2003-11-24 11:55 ]

[Anonymous]

Currently reading a popular novel, " The DiVincie Code".
Its a current best seller, so you can find it anywhere. Not completely finished with it yet, but nearly, and thought I'd tell you folks about it.
It's a novel, so not a 'true' story; but the subject matter is 'real'. Its about a secrete society; and a very old form Catholic sect; who are at odds with one another, you might say.
The sect, and the secrete society, are real. They do exist. The line gets fuzzy as to how much of what is explained about them is accurate, but I suspect a lot, or even all, is.
Its a tight and well written mystery / thriller, and worth reading for that reason alone, if you like this kind of thing - but be warned - the author is slanted in his view as to which of the adversaries hold the more correct view of a serious matter - Christianity; Jesus the Christ and Mary Magdelin.
I don't wish to tell to much, as I wouldn't want to spoil any of the intreg; but if you will be upset to have your faith questioned by such a book as this (assuming the reader is Christian) you might do better to leave it on the shelf.
If you lean towards Pagan beliefs you'll love this book with out reserve.
What it boils down to is the age old battle.
It is always the pagan and the Christian at odds; as Christianity is the only rival to Paganism to ever exist.
This book seems to be about the struggle between the Gnostics and the Christian. You can read about it in the New Testament as well. Its been going on from the very beginning.
While I personally believe all Pagan practice and belief to be evil and straight from Hell; There is still much thats brought out about how the Catholic church twisted the meaning of the scriptures that I believe to be valid.
I would maintain this is why the Catholic church fought so hard to keep the scriptures unavailable to the common man. Once they could read for themselves what is Biblical, they could plainly see it often goes in opposition to what the Church teaches.
The Gnostics however, take their arguments to far and so fall into serious (even diabolical) error.

Anyway - as the book is about secret societies and sects, I thought some of you might want to check it out.

[Anonymous]

From page one:

Its not widely known; seldom explained in history class, that the Nazis & SS were deeply emeshed in the occult and believed the power of the pagan faith they had resurrected, would lead them to certain victory.
Some believe WWII was a kind of trial run - what is called a prefillment of prophecy. Some think there is a phenomenon in Biblical Prophecy - were the prophecy comes to pass in a minor way; the prefillment; And then later the actual event occurs - the Full fillment.

Also, a little known historical fact: After WWII, the US gov't employed the same German chemical manufacturers that produced substances like zyklon-b (I can't believe I remembered its name) which were used to snuff the Jews in the gas ovens or chambers or whatever.I know this no thanks to history class...

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I?d like to talk about this just a little more.

Last night the history channel was running a set of  shows on the SS. They made the above point that the SS / Nazis were following a Pagan/Occultic religion. They went on explain how the ?final solution? was just the beginning. As with all other such Pagan groups; there are some things known only to the higher members. One of the things kept hidden from the lower ranks; but well understood by the higher order SS men, was that next in line for final solution treatment was the Christian Faiths. There had even already begun some desecration of Churches, like that which took place with the Synagogues at the start.
It got me wondering about something. I wonder if the inquisition and other horrors inflicted upon European Jews, wasn?t as is thought, the work of Christians; but rather, the work of these secret pagan societies. It seems very likely to me such is the case, tho I have never herd it said so. Most people think the Nazi persecution was the same kind of Christian persecution as the inquisition, only multiplied. I wonder if it wasn?t indeed generated from the same source; but a Pagan (and thus demonic) source and not a Christian one.
It never made sense to me that believing Christians could persecute the Jews. Even casual reading of the Bible makes it clear this is a very dangerous thing to do; and the book of Romans makes the point that gentile believers are grafted onto the Jewish vine; and that this is a honor and a privilege. So Christian persecution of the Jews makes no sense at all; But Pagan persecution does, and has been the normal state of affairs sence Abraham left Ur.
And the Crusades - that was the Knights Templer. They too, hid behind a Christian mask, but were in fact (so the conspiracy buffs say, anyway) Luciferian Paganist; which became the Illuminati.
Food for thought.

[Anonymous]

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?So ... =9&start=0

A must read!

[Anonymous]

http://educateyourself.org/mc/mcsvaliinterviewpt1.shtml



This is a link to information about the Illuminati in America today.
Its interesting.
Some of you post program people will reconise some aspects of what is discribed.

What is discribed is not what I have in past reading on the subject understood the Illuminatti to be.

I have in the past thought of the Illuminatti as a very few very powerful people at the higest point of the secreat society web.

This link maintains something different; but the basic history, and agenda remains as always, the New World Order.

[Anonymous]

try this link -

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/mcsvalii ... wpt1.shtml