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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2003, 03:08:00 PM »
Hi Deb -

It took awhile to find the time to read over your response and the link - but I have finely got a rountuit.

Until reading the link, I wondered were you got the idea Christians didn?t care about environmental destruction. I guess some don?t, and the article may be accurate in expressing how some think - but I am certain they era when they make it seem as if this is a universal mindset among  Christians in general.
I do believe the teaching that the rapture of the church will take place prior to the tribulation - or at least at the mid point. However, this doesn?t mean I don?t care about the world condition or the health of the environment. I care very much, and am something of a nature freak.  I could be wrong, but I think in general, Christians very much love and appreciate the natural world, and often contribute to its benefit in what ever ways they can.
Its one way of giving thanks to The Creator for the wondrous diversity of His creation.
And let no one tell you God doesn?t care for the natural world. There is plenty of Biblical evidence He cares very much.
Obviously, I don?t believe as you do, that Prophecy is a warning of what might be. I think it is without a doubt going to happen, if the Prophets said its going to happen. There are instances when it is said to be a worst case scenario - a warning of what will be, IF.  But when the prophet says, God says, and then makes a statement of what will be - it will be.
By the by, no were is it said the Earth is going to hell, or that all species will parish. You might enjoy reading over Isaiah chapter 11.

You ask if I?m aware of the suffering and destruction brought about by so called Christians and Jews - Well of coarse I am.  I would point out your use of ?So Called?, and say thats worth considering. Just b/c they call themselves Christian, doesn?t mean they give a hoot what God has to say or how He would have them behave.  Many a one who claims the title Christian, is serving Satan instead.  

I am somewhat fearful, the above is the explanation for your comments about the present administration. I can well remember the elder Bush going on about the new world order - and I wondered if the man knew what he was saying! I now believe he did indeed.  I haven?t herd the younger Bush using that phrase; but am concerned about his membership in a secret society, that if the conspiracy theory people are correct, is working ?hell-bent? towards this new world order. Besides - Christians are forbidden to belong to secret societies.  So, I do have deep concerns - but what would you suggest I do?  Its not as if the Dems are less corrupt or destructive in their own way.  Personally, I can?t bring myself to cast a vote for anyone who supports killing people b/c they are an inconvenience. I just can?t do it. So, that has left me with the Republicans.  As I recently told the democratic national committy tho - I may have found an issue that can flip my vote - and thats the deep ties that seem to bind the republicans to these abusive programs.  Its appalling, and they have the power and authority to stop it.  I expect them to do so.
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2003, 04:57:00 PM »
Hey Karen, maybe this will synch it for you. But first, let me say that I wouldn't think I'd done the world any favors if all I accomplished was getting you to vote for the Dempublicans. I agree, they're just exactly as evil and dangerous as the Repbulicrats.

I know of two girls, one in Straight and one in The Seed, who were forced to have abortions. Now Art never claimed to be either Christian or Republican. But Straight? With all their bullshit appeals to religion and conservative politics?

I don't think the people affiliated with these programs are either good Christians or good Republicans. Both halvs of the Socialist party that is the Dempublicans seem just as bent on social fascism at home and wars of conquest abroad as the other. I honestly don't believe we have a snoball's chance in hell of voting the bums out of office at the national level. I look for local candidates who've indicated a willingness to stand against the federal government in cases where local communities come into conflict with it.

Check out Ron Paul for  fresh perspective.
http://www.house.gov/paul/

When I started as a federal narcotics agent, the budget that we were working with, it was less than $5 million a year, and there was only 125 agents for the entire world to work the narcotic trade that we were fighting in those days.  Times have changed.  The gluttony has grown.
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2003, 06:29:00 PM »
What I'm reading is that we/humans have the ultimate intelligence to figure it all out. Personally I don't.

I would describe what I read as New Age/Humanism or a pick and choose kind of thing as you decide...a little of this and a little of that as it seems right to the human mind - popular thinking today -kinda make up your own spirituality....but for me there is nothing more in my life that I know for sure than the Word is alive and true.  

When I think of my Heavenly Father looking down from Heaven and comparing my tiny, tiny, mind...there is no way I could ever come to reason that my thinking is better than His...His ways are not our ways that's for sure but if we  think we are smarter than the Creator IMO that is pride..

Many in the world have been slaughtered for many reasons and it doesn't take too much research to find hundreds slain this week alone because they are Christian but it's not popular to report...check out Sudan. All murder is wrong.

I prefer to judge men by Christ not Christ by men.

---Ron Paul is an interesting man and has constituents in WWASP - ya gotta wonder what his take on these camps would be....

re: the enviroment...it was created to really take care of itself..all of animals needs are met, one apple creates many new trees, etc...our biggest problem really is overpopulation and families having too many children/new consumers but that is not popular thinking either. We are called to be good stewards of the earth but the earth is not my mother. I know that we need safeguards and standards just like we need them in this industry. But I have seen mud puddles classified at wetlands.

Ultimately one of the greatest threats to our country is materialism/glutony (basically our flesh and it's wants) yet without them our economy would die.

to all of you dear souls......

just in case of rapture or strange foretold events- remember all who call on the name of the Lord will be saved.
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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2003, 08:52:00 PM »
***I haven?t herd the younger Bush using that phrase; but am concerned about his membership in a secret society, that if the conspiracy theory people are correct, is working ?hell-bent? towards this new world order.

This is one of the better articles on the subject, imho. It's a good summary of the referenced, lengthy document.
http://www.austinuu.org/sermons/loehr092902.html
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order


***So, I do have deep concerns - but what would you suggest I do? Its not as if the Dems are less corrupt or destructive in their own way. Personally, I can?t bring myself to cast a vote for anyone who supports killing people b/c they are an inconvenience. I just can?t do it. So, that has left me with the Republicans.

Speaking of killing innocent people:
http://pilger.carlton.com/print/124759
I don't know what you should do, but Christians in general should be doing something if their national spokepersons are not representing them or their values and beliefs. Could it be that some of them are just savvy business men?

**As I recently told the democratic national committy tho - I may have found an issue that can flip my vote - and thats the deep ties that seem to bind the republicans to these abusive programs. Its appalling, and they have the power and authority to stop it. I expect them to do so.

I don't think either party is going to put a halt to the BM industry. It fits quiet nicely into their plans for a Global Community/ One World Order.

Thinking further about the Christian thing:
Religion and values are held very different by those at the top and the pee-ons at the bottom.
One can no longer know what a person's values are when they identify as a "Christian", if in fact one ever could.

Religions change to accomodate the behaviors of the masses, as when new denominations sprang up after industialization to accomodate the more "greedy" and "materialist" impulses that were frowned upon by the old churches.

Do Christians believe that Bush is demonstrating Christian values? Do they support his policies or view them as "Christian"? Are they content to allow him and Falwell or Robertson speak for them? Silence is agreement.

IF I were a Christian, I'd certain want to clarify which variety I was most closely aligned with. With all the confusion around the issue, I wouldn't risk being lumped in with the Bushes, Falwells and Robertsons.

Unless one makes a clear distinction, one assumes you are inline with their policies and actions.

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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2003, 08:59:00 PM »
Ron Paul is supposed to be a strong advocate for children, so I wrote him during the ordeal I went through trying to get my son released.

The letter I sent was professional and gave him all the information he needed to act. I had hoped he'd put a fire under the Dept of Human Services whom didn't have a clue how to interpret or enforce the Interstate Compact, but instead defered to the receiving state to make the call.

No response.
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2003, 11:13:00 AM »
Hey folks, I just started a thread on Skull & Bones in Open Free for All. Thought you might want to check it out.

The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2003, 04:50:00 PM »
Since we wondered into the mystical and prophetic; And since tomorow is Rosh Hashana, or the Feats of Trumpets; I thought this might be of interest. I have only copied a portion of the article. It may be read in its entirety at:



http://www.lamblion.com/prophecy/Jews-I ... ews-10.php


Prophetic Feast.

What the Jewish people did not seem to realize is that all of the feasts were also symbolic types. In other words, they were prophetic in nature, each one pointing in a unique way to some aspect of the life and work of the promised Messiah.
1) Passover - Pointed to the Messiah as our passover lamb whose blood would be shed for our sins. Jesus was crucified on the day of preparation for the Passover, at the same time that the lambs were being slaughtered for the Passover meal that evening.
2) Unleavened Bread - Pointed to the Messiah's sinless life, making Him the perfect sacrifice for our sins. Jesus' body was in the grave during the first days of this feast, like a kernel of wheat planted and waiting to burst forth as the bread of life.
3) First Fruits - Pointed to the Messiah's resurrection as the first fruits of the righteous. Jesus was resurrected on this very day, which is one of the reasons that Paul refers to him in I Corinthians 15:20 as the "first fruits from the dead."
4) Harvest or Pentecost - (Called Shavuot today.) Pointed to the great harvest of souls, both Jew and Gentile, that would come into the kingdom of God during the Church Age. The Church was actually established on this day when the Messiah poured out the Holy Spirit and 3,000 souls responded to Peter's first proclamation of the Gospel.
The long interval of three months between Harvest and Trumpets pointed to the current Church Age, a period of time that was kept as a mystery to the Hebrew prophets in Old Testament times.
That leaves us with the three fall feasts which are yet to be fulfilled in the life and work of the Messiah. Because Jesus literally fulfilled the first four feasts and did so on the actual feast days, I think it is safe to assume that the last three will also be fulfilled and that their fulfillment will occur on the actual feast days. We cannot be certain how they will be fulfilled, but my guess is that they most likely have the following prophetic implications:
5) Trumpets - (Called Rosh Hashana today.) Points to the Rapture when the Messiah will appear in the heavens as a Bridegroom coming for His bride, the Church. The Rapture is always associated in Scripture with the blowing of a loud trumpet (I Thessalonians 4:13-18 and I Corinthians 15:52)
6) Atonement - (Called Yom Kippur today.) Points to the day of the Second Coming of Jesus when He will return to earth. That will be the day of atonement for the Jewish remnant when they "look upon Him whom they have pierced," repent of their sins, and receive Him as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10 and Romans 11:1-6, 25-36).
7) Tabernacles - (Called Sukkot today.) Points to the Lord's promise that He will once again tabernacle with His people when He returns to reign over all the world from Jerusalem (Micah 4:1-7).
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2003, 05:15:00 PM »
http://store.aetv.com/html/search/index ... &x=12&y=12

This is worth buying if you are intrested in the subject
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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2003, 05:27:00 PM »
This might be the one I'm thinking of - sounds more like it; But I'm not sure they are the same program - I don't think so - I think this one is the more detailed _

http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=70720
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