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Elan School Posts- RePosted
« on: March 01, 2010, 10:47:54 PM »
HOW to shut Elan down (Thread)

Postby Publisher » 27 May 2002, 12:13

Publisher wrote:The only way to start the process of shuting elan down is 4 steps:
    1) class action lawsuit by former Elan survivors--ACLU lawyer
    2) federal justice department complaint for civil rights abuses
    3) local contact with Governor Angus King and attorney general in Maine: request state probe
    4) contact the media in maine, Boston , New York

    Trust me, I KNOW the sentiment is out there to shut it down...you gotta fight for it.
    Regards
    dan Bostdorf
    Publisher


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Some info worth reading and then discussing my Elanians Buddies....
......Danny :shamrock:
P.S. Now I understand that the Governor my not be the same man and so on down the line, so updating is essential...should not be hard...I would like to start this with help ASAP.....Let me here from ya..
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Re: Elan School Posts- RePosted
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2010, 10:58:28 PM »
HOW to shut Elan down (Thread)
Postby Antigen » 03 Jun 2002, 11:10

Hey Dan. :smile: Kick back, get yourself some coffee or wine (your pleasure), put your feet up and enjoy the show. We've dealt with this kind of monkey-wrenching pretty constantly over here. The trick is to really understand the slight of mind.

There's a whole lot more than money driving this. I know, I spent most of my childhood as a jr member of the Seed cult and ended my association with Straight as a pre-trainee for staff.

Yes, it's intentional. But the organization is sort of free-lance.

Here's a quote from that NYT article: "I don't think I'd be alive today if I hadn't been sent there, but I have nightmares to this day about it," said Sarah Levesque, 20, who was sent to Elan by her parents in 1996 at 14, for two years. "I wake up crying at least once a week. Elan saved my life, but I feel haunted by it.
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The physical abuse that goes on in these Programs is only the tip of the iceberg; more a symptom or eventuality of what's going on than the meat of it. It's hard for anyone to really understand who hasn't had it happen to them, though we keep trying to find common points of reference because it's so important that people DO get the picture.

In a word, the Program is very, very effective! Not the least bit therapeutic, mind you, but VERY effective. Some people, all these years later, are still brainwashed. The point of breaking down the will of a client is to convince them that they are wholely and utterly worthless. Then, when they're well broken, lead them down an imagined path to redemption via working the Program. In the end, you have a sincerely grateful, utterly dedicated follower who will fight almost to the death to defend the Program. Take away the Program and they're just the worthless, hopeless wretch the psychos at Elan convinced them they were.

That unfortunate young lady, Sarah, now 20 years old, really and truely believes that Elan saved her life. Now, you and I know that, although parents lose sleep and go gray worrying about their teenaged kids, most of them survive those wild and wonderful days without being brainwashed. Even the Quakers have a word for it; can't remember offhand what it is, but it's German for something like "rampage."

Ever check and find out how much the rank-n-file staff is paid? I know Joe Ricci made millions, as did his partners and a few high ranking staff. But generally the clients who go on to staff survive on near minimum wage stipends.

No need to ban anyone over here. We'll just keep telling the truth. They hate when that happens. But a good many who were initially very hostile (like our anonymous friend here) have hung around and come out from under the ether since then. Kinda makes it all worthwhile.

Ginger Warbis ~ Antigen

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Danny.....
_P.S. This is awesome Antigen.....Hope you don't mind...may put it on Elan F/B site if you don't mind.....this is good stuff.....________________
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Re: Elan School Posts- RePosted
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2010, 11:04:21 PM »
LINK to original thread, in case anyone's interested:

    HOW to shut Elan down
    viewtopic.php?f=2&t=388&p=2300#p2300[/list]
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    Maine governor John Baldacci
    « Reply #3 on: March 01, 2010, 11:05:23 PM »
    Efforts to bend the ear of current Governor John Baldacci may be less than satisfactory. See also:

      Does John Baldacci belong to a secretive, powerful, conservative Christian group?
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      Re: Elan School Posts- RePosted
      « Reply #4 on: March 01, 2010, 11:11:31 PM »
      Quote from: "Ursus"
      LINK to original thread, in case anyone's interested:

        HOW to shut Elan down
        viewtopic.php?f=2&t=388&p=2300#p2300[/list]
        :shamrock:  :shamrock:
        I'm embarrassed to say, I Don't Know How.....
        Sorry....
        Danny.. :shamrock:
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        Re: Elan School Posts- RePosted
        « Reply #5 on: March 01, 2010, 11:20:31 PM »
        IMPORTANT INFO (Thread)

        Postby Matt C. Hoffman » 20 Jun 2002, 20:30
        Okay as everyone knows this site is not censored like Zaretsky's .

        I have read some very heavy accusations about Kruglik ,Roy and Rosenberg (I think I know Rosenberg :grin:ark hair ,thin face with many acne pock marks and an older fellow 24 plus years old in 76.Is this the same person that you all remember )He was at 6 as a resident when I was in elan (74 to 76)Meet him in 76 if its the same person . Dark Brooding man ?

        Kruglik said he was a mongol Russian .He is not an Indian . I know him too darn well and thought he was a very sick person at one point (Chuck might agree with me ).

        Since I feel that these are very heavy accusations , I would hope that you annon people will contact these people with your thoughts ( Complaints ):Buzz Kastuck Phone # (207 )624-6776 is an investigator that works for the Dept of Human services ,Education part

        Yellow Light Breen (this is really the mans name ) # (207) 624-6620 . Be persistant he is a very hard man to get a hold of . He is the Top dog of the Education Dept .(the receptionist answers commisioners office .)

        Let him know of these thoughts and your complaints .I do not have a way of verifying these accusations nor can I do anything about them (sorry ) They are serious enough that I hope you all will follow thru .

        Feel free to post your thoughts as to what you all felt your response to your complaints were !

        It is important that you all do this . It has been my opinion that kruglik ,Gottlieb , McCann And Zaretzky are serious sick people who have caused major trauma to many individuals .

        Please contact these people ,They have graduated from college and Buzz has a P.hd
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        Danny.......
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        Re: Elan School Posts- RePosted
        « Reply #6 on: March 01, 2010, 11:29:11 PM »
        LINK to original thread of the post just previous:

          IMPORTANT INFO
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          Re: Elan School Posts- RePosted
          « Reply #7 on: March 02, 2010, 12:04:17 AM »
          Quote from: "Ursus"
          LINK to original thread of the post just previous:

            IMPORTANT INFO
            viewtopic.php?f=2&t=475#p2743[/list]
            :shamrock:  :shamrock:
            How are you doing this for crying out loud we are computer inept without my daughter.....help.
            I will hunt you down Ursus if you don't tell me....lol
             :shamrock:  :shamrock:
            Danny.....
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