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« Reply #1635 on: September 15, 2010, 07:44:00 AM »
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Hey Mark...Have the police once ever spoken to you about Art??? No I did not think so either. And you know a lot of police too just like everyone else does. Your neighbor is a cop right...yeah wind nothing but wind. But Mark be careful anyways because I believe Art is unstable enough to actually snapp like Lady Jane any minute.

I know probably a good part of the force and the Chief Mike is a friend of mine,We chat at Village meeting, and around town.I have mentioned Farty to them, and know one knows him. I told Mike about Farty and his internet crap, and he laughed. So the answer to your question is , No I have Never Been Contacted By Any law enforcement group.Or FBI, :beat:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

The Farty is always full of shit,He has made so many statements  and threats, he would be in jail, :cheers:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :rasta:  :rasta:
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« Reply #1636 on: September 15, 2010, 07:54:27 AM »
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« Reply #1638 on: September 15, 2010, 08:30:44 AM »
Where is the Farty,?? Thinking up his next band of threats, on a password protected thread, :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl: , There is a reason for that Farty, It keeps Ass-Holes like you in line.When you sign in you also sign away any rights, AKA " Free For All", Are you that stupid Farty, :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl: Go away and leave us all alone, Crazy Jane is calling, and 8 Ball, needs her balls rubbed  :rofl:  :rofl:
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« Reply #1639 on: September 15, 2010, 10:07:29 AM »
So who here spent time in the ring? What was that like?
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« Reply #1640 on: September 15, 2010, 06:31:29 PM »
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Great Article About Joe and Dr D.



http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=n ... YT-_gyKrhg

Yes Mark, that is interesting. I wonder what ever happened with that suit. We probably will never know there both dead.
I believe you hit that on the head totally. They are dead, and when the time ever comes for the rest of Elan staff to be held accountable which probably wont happen anyways, but they can blame them both for brainwashing them into treating children that way. Unfortunately, every staff member ever there is totally fully going to be covered but claiming Ricci made them do it and they were told it was for the children's best interest.

Danny you once said you were sucked into the lies and believing Joe was actually doing a great service to others once, so if you got brainwashed then so did everyone else working there...see how easy their defense is?? You yourself can see my point I am sure. Thing is maybe the staff was brainwashed, guess we will never know the truth since Ricci is six feet under.


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« Reply #1641 on: September 15, 2010, 06:44:41 PM »
Thanks Mark, your hard work is never forgotten in my mind. Sharon it is no big deal, we did give folks a bit of entertainment for a while back at the beginning of the year but things change. I am trying to change here and not be so combative. Art your a good dude, I really did enjoy those emails we shared even though at times they were strained. We were at least trying to communicate, at least I thought so. I love all you guys and always have, we are a strange bunch and make it much more difficult then it has to be at times, I have made many mistakes here and have hurt many, just do not want to do that anymore. Felice love ya, big time.
Anyway,
I have been focusing on Elan of late and talking with different people. I have been talking with a parent who has a child up there now, it is just the beginning so not to much info yet but I am talking with her about the history of abuse, lack of accreditation problems forwarding on to public schooling and or college, long term damage psychologically ect...  
I will keep you folks in touch.
Thanks Danny
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« Reply #1642 on: September 15, 2010, 07:09:31 PM »
I have mentioned Farty to them, and know one knows him. I told Mike about Farty and his internet crap
 
well since you are airing dirty laundry, I thought I would catch you in this particular lie. Though most everything you write is a lie these days Marky
Mike B happens to be a friend of mine as well. You are right,he knows all about you LOL. Ask him where he buys his car parts,and from whom.  
You cant even get your lies right
thats all I am gonna say for now
But you are again caught in a lie Marky.
I have lost count of how many that makes Gary,Joe,Jeff,Reporter,and whomever else you are "pretending" to be this hour
Could you put a leash on that rabid dog of yours?
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« Reply #1643 on: September 15, 2010, 08:13:47 PM »
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I have mentioned Farty to them, and know one knows him. I told Mike about Farty and his internet crap
 
well since you are airing dirty laundry, I thought I would catch you in this particular lie. Though most everything you write is a lie these days Marky
Mike B happens to be a friend of mine as well. You are right,he knows all about you LOL. Ask him where he buys his car parts,and from whom.  
You cant even get your lies right
thats all I am gonna say for now
But you are again caught in a lie Marky.
I have lost count of how many that makes Gary,Joe,Jeff,Reporter,and whomever else you are "pretending" to be this hour
Could you put a leash on that rabid dog of yours?

 Now you say that to say what,?? Of course if you said anything to him he would call me, You Idiot,But first he would want proof, and with all your thoughts and dribble, and threat, well he would still be laughing,
So who looks like the ass, ?????  If he saw your confessions to having sex, with under age girls, he would arrest you. :cheers:  :cheers:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  So think up something a little better Farty, I am a solid citizen, your not, your a predator, and a pedophile. :fuckoff:  :fuckoff:  Be nice to 8 Bal tonight, You Fuck, :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :fuckoff:  :fuckoff:  :fuckoff:
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« Reply #1644 on: September 15, 2010, 08:38:30 PM »
Ya solid Citizen
Do you even read what you write ? Who,but a sick fuck could even think of this crap?
Arrest me ? For what Marky. My side of the street is clean pal
This is your temper tantrum. Mike is but one of several who see's the real Marky
He has read your drivel.... How do ya like me now Marky ?
Could ya kick your feet and stomp your fists too ?
Solid Citizen
LOL
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« Reply #1645 on: September 15, 2010, 08:51:12 PM »
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Ya solid Citizen
Do you even read what you write ? Who,but a sick fuck could even think of this crap?
Arrest me ? For what Marky. My side of the street is clean pal
This is your temper tantrum. Mike is but one of several who see's the real Marky
He has read your drivel.... How do ya like me now Marky ?
Could ya kick your feet and stomp your fists too ?
Solid Citizen
LOL

Oh Farty your so full of shit again, :waaaa:  :waaaa:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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« Reply #1646 on: September 15, 2010, 08:51:56 PM »
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« Reply #1647 on: September 15, 2010, 08:58:17 PM »
Post Info   TOPIC: WHT ELAN STUDENTS DO SO BAD AFTER LEAVING

Date: Sep 8, 2006
WHT ELAN STUDENTS DO SO BAD AFTER LEAVING
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WHY DO THE STUDENTS WHO WENT TO ELAN HAVE SUCH BAD LUCK,HALF OF US HAVE DONE DRUGS,AND DONE ALOT OF OTHER THINGS,LIKE END UP IN JAIL.I HAVE NOT YET HEARD FROM ANY ONE THAT HAS DONE GOOD SINCE THEY LEFT THAT HELL HOLE.AS ALOT OF US GOT OLDER AND HAVE HAD KIDS OUR SELVES THINGS HAVE CHANGED FOR SOME OF US,BUT ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO DID GO TO ELAN ARE STILL A MESS,SO I ASK WHAT IS THAT SCHOOL THERE FOR? IF I AM WRONG ABOUT ANY ONE WHO HAS NOT MESSED UP TELL ME I WAS THERE FROM 89-93 IF YOU READ THIS JUST LET ME KNOW.::


                     




Date: Feb 7, 2007
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I have done well, but Elan doesn't get much of the credit.






                                         


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RE: WHT ELAN STUDENTS DO SO BAD AFTER LEAVING
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the reason SOME FORMER ELAN STUDENTS HAVE SUCH A DIFFICULT TIME RECOVERING IS BECAUSE AFTER BEING TORN DOWN THEY WERE NOT BUILT BACK UP, NOT ENCOURAGED, NURTURED OR EVEN CONSOLED....AFTER SEXUAL ABUSE AS A CHILD CAME OUT IN A GROUP, I WAS PLACED IN THE BOXING RING AT LEAST 8 ROUNDS, MAJOR GENERAL MEETING....ASKED WHY I HAD SO MUCH RAGE, I DIDNT EVEN KNOW THAT THE ABUSE HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH ALL MY PROBLEMS,,,THE ROOTS OF THE KIDS' PROBLEMS WERE RARELY ADDRESSED...COPING SKILLS WERE NOT TAUGHT.... IN MY DAY IT WAS RUN LIKE A PRISON....KIDS LIVED IN DUMPSTERS FOR RUNNING AWAY, KIDS WHO EXPRESSED THEIR HOMOSEXUALITY WERE ACTUALLY HUMILIATED AND DEGRADED, NOTHING WAS PRIVATE....EVERYTHING WAS EXPOSED....I CAN REMEMBER FEAR IN PEOPLES EYES, CHILDRENS EYES ON A DAILY BASIS....  KARMA IS THE ONLY JUSTICE I CAN HOPE FOR , FOR MYSELF AND OTHERS AS OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OBVIOUSLY CONDONES THESE ABUSIVE BEHAVIOURS.....THE PROOF?  HIGH LEVEL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS INVOLVED NOW.....  TO THIS DAY, I CANT EVEN BEGIN TO DELVE INTO THE MINDSET THAT  WAS CREATED AND THAT STILL PLAGUES MYSELF AND OTHERS TODAY.....MY MOTHER ASKED ME NOT LONG AGO WHY I NEVER SAID ANYTHING WHILE I WAS THERE..... U WHO WERE THERE, U KNOW Y.....SCREENED PHONE CALLS THAT WERE DISCONNECTED AT THE HINT OF COMPLAINTS, LETTERS SCREENED, MY DAD ALWAYS WONDERED WHY I NEVER WROTE, HALF THE TIME I WASNT ALLOWED AND THE OTHER HALF......COULDNT BE TRUTHFUL WITH HIM, LETTER WOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN THERE.....

MY NAME IS  JACKIE IVERS.............. AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE...!!

*AND THOSE OF YOU WHO SAY JUST GET OVER IT?  NOT GONA HAPPEN..... IS IT OK TO BEAT CHILDREN INTO SUBMISSION, TO BREAK THEIR NOSES IN THE RING, TO CAUSE AND INFLICT PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE TO CHILDREN?  I DONT CARE IF U THINK IT WAS OK....MAYBE YOUR STRONGER THAN SOME AND THAT IS TO THOSE WHO SAY GET OVER IT....It ABSOLUTLEY AMAZES ME THAT THE ELAN SCHOOL IS STILL OPEN, THE SAME ABUSERS ARE THERE, AND OUR GOVERNMENT ALLOWS IT.....

SO, TELL ME WHY 60 MINUTES AND 20/20 DIDNT EXPOSE THEM? ESPECIALLY WHEN OVER 30 OF US "TROUBLED" KIDS WERE SENT TO PARSONSFIELD? OUR MEDIA IN THIS COUNTRY IS AS CORRUPT AS THE PEOPLE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO REPORT ON.... ITS 20 SOME YEARS LATER...... I STILL WANT JUSTICE..... I WANT ADMISSIONS, APOLOGIES, I WANT CLOSURE, CLOSURE THAT TIL THIS DAY, I HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO ATTAIN.....

CHILDREN OF THE DARK I BELIEVE THE DOCUMENTARY WAS CALLED..... OR CHILDREN OF NIGHT..... LOOK IT UP,ASK QUESTIONS IF ENUFF PEOPLE CARED AND ENUFF PEOPLE CONTACTED THE "RIGHT PEOPLE".....SOMEONE COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE..........ANYONE WHOS BEEN THERE IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS CAN FILE A LAWSUITL...WE SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO FILE THEM AGAINST THE MAINE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND THE MAIN DEPARTMENT OF CHILDRENS SERVICES..... SO MUCH MORE I CAN SAY AND MAYBE I WILL SOMETIME....MY EMAIL ADDY IS JACKIEKOPKE@HOTMAIL.COM    ANYONE EVER WANTS TO DROP ME A LINE, HAS ANY ???? ETC PLEASE PUT ELAN IN THE SUBJECT LINE......HOPE YOU CAN VISIT MY SITE ON MULTIPLY, U CAN GET THERE BY PUTTING 'TIMETOCLOSETHEDOORSOFELAN" INTO YOUR SEARCH ENGINE..... HOPE YALL FIND PEACE AND HAVE A WONDERFUL SUMMER..
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« Reply #1648 on: September 15, 2010, 09:23:07 PM »
The first time I saw a Psychiatrist, I was 8 years old. My parents were going through a very messy divorce. My Father wanted custody of my 2 brothers and I. This was very hard on me; it did not fit into my reality of what a family was. Divorce was a new thing back then in 1973, we were the first in our neighborhood. The “shrink” asked me who I wanted to live with. It was right then I realized that there was something very wrong with Psychiatrists. What kind of person would ask an 8 year old  to pick between her parents? I loved both of them the same, the way I now love both of my ?? the same.

FAST FORWARD>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I am 13 years old and my Father tells me we have an appointment with a Psychiatrist in Downtown Chicago. I have a few problems, but what 13 year old does not? I watched my Father mentally destroy my mother. He then used her mental instability against her to take away the only thing that mattered in her life...her children. He then married his mistress of 7 years (also his secretary). I was not exactly thrilled to be living with the woman who helped to destroy my happy home. Not to mention the fact that she was an adulteress. I wished her dead several times a day and even prayed to G-D at night to take this wicked woman away. Eventually I got to know her and she was very kind and loving to me. I liked her. She would never be my Mom, but she was my friend for sure.

While on Vacation in Mexico with my Father she became very sick. She assumed this was her pregnancy. However it was not. She was not only carrying my half-brother in her womb, she was carrying a tumor the size of a large orange in her brain. My Father truly loved this woman and did everything he could to save her life. In the end he brought her home to die. It was a terrible sight to see. She was in a vegetative state. You could see where the Doctors had cut a huge hole in her skull. There was nothing left of her, just a body waiting to die. It was a constant reminder of how I had prayed to G-D to take her life and how I had wished her dead. Of course I do not have that power, but at the time I felt a lot of guilt. I was sent to summer-camp knowing I would never see her again. On July 1st I awoke around 6:00 a.m. and demanded to call immediately.  I knew she woke me up on the way out, I could not explain it but I knew. The counselors at the camp assured me that if something had happened my Father would have called. Two days later my Father called to say she had died (at the time and date I woke up). I later found out that when my Father went to his safety deposit box all the watches in there were stopped at the exact time of her death. I guess you could say I was a little twisted from this trauma. My Father a member of the Jewish Priesthood most high has never set foot in a synagogue since. One day, I went to this appointment at Northwest Memorial Hospital and met Dr. ?? a shrink from England, only I was not allowed to leave. This was my new home; an Adolescent Treatment Program. It was a locked unit for teens with a system based on reward and punishment with a level system. The higher the level the more privileges you earned. There were day patients there to teach me all about street drugs and crime. One day we stole the unit key and escaped into downtown Chicago where I got so drunk I passed out in the stairwell of some high-rise.

I would be released and re-admitted to the same unit one more time. The day patients would bring in drugs, we were allowed to smoke cigarettes it was not so bad. I liked my shrink, because he said my Father was the one with a problem.

My next Adolescent Treatment program was at Chicago Lakeshore Hospital. Same basic program of behavior modification, only this time they added medication. I did not like medication. My "shrink" was Dr. ??, a wealthy Psychiatrist from Israel who wore alligator shoes. He told me that manipulation was a positive thing. All I had to do was be Daddy’s little ?? and the world would be mine. For my Birthday I was given a “Dental Pass”. My Father and new Step-Monster took me and a friend to see The Rolling Stones. We were seated separately. My friend brought all kinds of goodies. I was returned to the Hospital “tripping” and put in solitary confinement. Many years later I was told by another Psychiatrist that the combination of medications I was on at that Hospital were not approved for people under 18 and the combination could have killed me. In both Hospitals there was this rumor/threat that if we did not succeed we might end up at a horrible place called Élan. “The last resort”.

In 1981 that is exactly where my Father wanted to put me. We went in front of the School board for some type of meeting. The School would not pay for my placement there and furthermore stated that I that I did not need to be in Élan. I could go to Public school. My Father said “fine then I will pay for it myself”  My first day at Élan I was escorted to a bathroom, made to strip in front of two strangers and take a Quell shower. I was told I would be a resident of House #3. There were many Houses in Poland Spring, Maine. #3, #5, #7, #8 and Administration #1. There was also a house in Waterford, Maine #6 and two houses in Parsonsfield, Maine #2 and #4. Élan #3 was “the big House.”

The first thing I noticed was all the costumes. These were called Learning Experiences or L.E.; they were made from mostly cardboard and came from the communications Dept. Dunce caps Cigarette hats. Nuclear Reactor Boxes, Whore and Pimp costumes the list goes on. Whatever the “issue” was there was a L.E. to go with it. With every L.E. there was a sign sometimes you only got a sign. These would always start out “Please confront me as to why........” It was not unusual to see someone with 15 signs. One night at school a kid walked into class from another house wearing a huge penis on his head with a sign in it that said “ Please confront me as to why I think with one head and not the other” I had to hide behind my book to not laugh. If you laughed at someone’s L.E. you got the same one.

There were boxing rings to beat you into submission, Haircuts where 3 people yelled at you over trivial stuff. General Meetings where hundreds of your peers were whipped into frenzy in the dining room before you arrived and when you did then would all rush at you to yell and spit in your face. Then the Director would emotionally lambaste you for hours. At the end you were given an L.E. and “Shotdown” made to scrub floors and toilets all day. Then there was the Corner for those who would not “get with the program”. It was meant to be used for a couple of hours, because it was unbearable. You could not talk or read or listen to music or anything and some other poor kid had to supervise you the whole time. I stayed in the corner for 5 months. I refused to abuse my peers. I was not going to humiliate others. For this I was severely abused, but I did not care. I gave it right back. I was not going to join a cult.

In a last effort to get me to conform, my Father flew up and told me that I was going to be there until the bulldozers came. Three weeks later he returned to pick me up; I had done the impossible I had been kicked out of Élan in eight months. My Father and Step monster tried to drop me off in Mass. It was a school for mostly mentally handicapped Teens. I told them I would raise hell and they would not take me. Unwillingly me Father had no choice but to take me home. I took the G.E.D. and tried to go to Columbia Collage. There was something wrong with me at this point, socially although I could not put my finger on it. To cope while in the corner I would use different techniques that I had read about. I was not allowed to close my eyes so I would stare at the vertex until everything went black. Each time it was easier. I would at first astral travel. After the meeting with my Father I decided to try “Creative Visualization”. I had read a small book by the same name before entering Élan and it was the perfect time to try it out. I imagined the same scenario over and over again. When it actually happened I was sure I was still in the corner visualizing it. Only after the visualization went past the point of my creation did I know that it had worked. I think I was in shock.

Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally. -Abraham Lincoln

FAST FORWARD>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

For many years I did not have a relationship with my Father and Step-monster. One day in 1998 I was given the opportunity for my Children and I to get away from my abusive wife and move to rural.?? Choosing what I felt was the lesser of two evils I took the bait. There was one condition I had to see a Psychiatrist. This should have been a big red flag for me, but it was not. My Children were enrolled in School and were doing well. I had a job at Lands’ End main headquarters. It was located 3 blocks from where I lived in ??,  On the weekends I would have brunch with my Father an Step monster who never failed to condescend. I put up with it for monetary benefit.

On August 16th 2000 a Social Services worker showed up at my door and requested to see my oldest Daughter. She was sleeping at a friend’s house. I told her this. Within minutes my house was surrounded by The ?? Police Department, The ?? County Sheriffs and Unmarked vehicles, I agreed to let a ?? Police Officer search my house, he confirmed my Daughter was not there. My Daughter then called on the phone I told her what was going on. She agreed to speak with Social Services. To make a long story short, both of my Daughters were taken from me that day. At the request of my Step-monster. They were put into Foster care, where one remains today. They were 8 & 12 at the time. I was sent to a Mental Hospital the very same day, for getting “Hysterical”. If you ask me, if you do not act a little “Hysterical” when someone comes and takes your Children away you really have a serious problem. For the next 2 years I was systematically harassed in an attempt to criminalize me. I think it might have  worked exxcept for the fact that I pleaded NGI. I also opted for a bench trial for reasons that I will not make public at this time. If you take my kids away on the basis of my Mental Illness, please do not call me a criminal. When I found the actual paper in my case file at the court house that contained the evidence of my Step monsters report to Social Services I was irate to say the least. It said I had been diagnosed with Mental Illness and she did not care what happened to me but she wanted my Children to be put in Foster Care. Before my Children were taken from me in 2000 I was seeing a Therapist and Psychiatrist of my own choice. I was on 2 Medications. I had a healthy and happy life. I had no criminal charges. We need to look at how this is seen for a reason for removal of Children from the home. I have never in my life experienced such stigma and open hatred for wanting to get some help in the MH industry. I also have to state that this event has been the most Traumatic thing I have and continue to experience in my life.

 "You do not examine legislation in the light of the benefits it will convey if properly administered, but in the light of the wrongs it would do and the harms it would cause if improperly administered."-Lyndon B. Johnson

I was sent to the state Hospital and Diagnosed with 5 different things. I am now court ordered to take 6 different kinds of medication and 1 more because they make me physically Ill.  I have a D.O.C. worker who gives me random urinalyses. I have a Conditional release worker. I have a Court appointed Psychiatrist and a court appointed Therapist. We must not forget the Social services worker either. I never had any freedom in America to begin with. I am not paranoid I have justified fear. Outpatient Commitment is Unconstitutional, but so is The Patriot Act. Without a lawyer, like many Americans find out you have no chance for justice. I have a good cases against the State of ?? for both unjust removal of my Children and continued denial of my Civil and Constitutional rights. As far as my "Conditional Release" I have a good case there too. I just cannot afford a lawyer. If you look at the statistics, people most affected by this are the ones who cannot afford proper legal representation. Any lawyer out there willing to help? Here is a list of the Court ordered Medications I am forced to take:

· Adderall 30mg. tab 3 times daily
· Paxil 40mg. tab 2 times daily
· Topomax 100mg. tab 1/2 tab in a.m. 2 tabs in p.m.
· Ativan 1mg. tab 1-4 tablets daily as needed
· Trazadone HCL 100mg. tab 2 at bedtime
· Ambien 10mg. 1 at bedtime
· Hyoscyamine sulfate 0.375mg.ter (gen.Equiv for Levbid) Take one Tablet by Mouth every twelve hours for Abdominal cramps & Diarrhea. (Because now I have Irritable bowel syndrome from the other six medications)

My first hand knowledge of Outpatient forced treatment is basic. You cannot force someone to change. You can monitor them, provide services, overmedicate them (this applies to me) and check their bodily fluids to make sure that G-d forbid they do not use any herbal medications of their own choosing. But real change comes from within. As an alternative to Prison it is of course the preferred route to go. You have to ask yourself, how far backward have we gone? Let’s take a look at my Outpatient Commitment. After my release from ??I I was given all of the above mentioned services with the threat that I could be re-hospitalized at any moment for not following my Conditional Release Plan. This could be initiated by any of the above mentioned people. This causes additional anxiety. Knowing what I know now. I would never seek help. My "confidential" MH files were used against me in court to take my Children. Knowing what my "issues" were: I was provoked and harassed daily.

(I was also Drugged with everything from neuroleptics’ to antipsychotics’ and SSRI’s you name it! I was forced to report to the ?? County Sherriff 4 times daily for Medication and if I was late I was charged with Bail Jumping.)

After 3 years of taking my Medication by myself, The Judge has ordered Medication Monitoring after a revocation hearing where I was sent home.

Now my Conditional release worker wants’ to hire 3 students from the U.??. - to bring me my Medication 4 times a day.

I am currently taking 3 medications

1. Adderal- 20 mg. 8 and Noon and 10mg. at 4p.m.
2. Ativan- 2mg. (8 a.m., noon and 4 p.m.)
3. Ambien- 20 mg. at Bedtime. (They would like my Bedtime to be 8 p. m.)

I consider this an invasion of privacy.

There is a lot more to this story, if you are interested.

Thank You,



Now Who Started Out Like This,??  Farty or Crazy Jane,??  What Came First The Chicken or the egg,?? :cheers:  :cheers:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rasta:  :rasta:  :rasta:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:
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Re: Elan discussion from New Forum Policies
« Reply #1649 on: September 15, 2010, 09:52:59 PM »
by liarsexposed » Yesterday, 22:42

The drama? It seems like it's around whenever your lips move. Actually, it seems it is in fact you Sharon who possesses a flair for the dramatic. Hell, just look at how you responded to my post back there...I wasn't talking to you, and you jumped right in calling me an ass-kisser or whatever. (You felt you had to enlarge the font for some reason, too... ) I don't care when it comes to whatever you're talking about between you and DB. You seem to enjoy bickering on here for whatever reason. And you seem to like airing dirty laundry all over these forums. I'll go so far as to say that I bet you are quite an insufferable loudmouth in person, but I could be wrong, I suppose. You just seem to come off that way on here a lot, that's all...

Ding Ding Ding Ding


Don't You Like The Big Letters Farty,??? Are They Too Loud, :lala:  :lala:  :lala: ,??? She keeps handing You Your ASS, :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:,Why Don't You Shut Up And Go Away,?? You can believe that push comes to shove, Sharon and Danny will stick together, against you, Danny gets his own thing going, but he doesn't hurt anyone or wish harm to them in any serious way, People do not view Danny like you,get that straight, Danny is argumentative, You Farty are a confessed Pedophile. Danny is and will be a far better man than you,ever deserve to meet. :fuckoff:  :fuckoff:  :fuckoff:  :fuckoff:  :fuckoff:  :fuckoff:  
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