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People must like to be sheep
« on: December 17, 2009, 05:46:21 PM »
I want to know how this actualy sold. Who the hell looked at these people, and thought, "I wann' be like that"!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZlhIDqBA90
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Re: People must like to be sheep
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2009, 12:19:49 PM »
Yep. They all liked to call that pedophile "Dad" (aka David Berg).

YouTube user mayoDVD has a small "mission" going on where he films people witnessing for the Family International or fishing for converts (or has a friend film him).

Here's one with a toned down version of what Children of God called "flirty fishing" (FF):

    The Family International, Free Hugs. all children are of God
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE33RDAEYwo[/list]
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    Re: People must like to be sheep
    « Reply #2 on: December 19, 2009, 12:42:24 PM »
    Quote from: "none-ya"
    I want to know how this actualy sold. Who the hell looked at these people, and thought, "I wann' be like that"!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZlhIDqBA90

    Certainly this would not have been for sale, or for wide distribution.  The video was made for "Dad" specifically, and probably was only originally viewed by Berg and his inner circle.  That's why these women are singing to him.  The Family colonies around the world used to frequently send Berg videotaped greetings like this one, and It would not have been GP.  In other words, it was made by members of the cult, for the leader of the cult.  This video was part of a large cache of Family materials that was smuggled out of the Philippines by one Ed Priebe, in 1992, and then made available to the public.
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    Re: People must like to be sheep
    « Reply #3 on: December 19, 2009, 12:48:07 PM »
    Here's another one for "Dad" that'll be sure to stick in your craw. Not noted in the clip's description is that shortly prior to the discussion of "sharing," the stepmother reports that she has also engaged in "some FF," like any good female disciple in the service of God should, at least according to David Berg. Note the camera's POV, clearly focused on... er... well, 'nuff said or implied, lol! I'm guessing that was in attempt to please or curry favor with "Dad."

      Cult member's Report to leaders
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKkJ1xFnZmY

      A video report to cult leaders David Berg and Karen Zerby from a couple in Australia and their son. In the video, a father reports that two children have shared sexually with their stepmother, Sally. An excerpt of this video was featured on 60 Minutes Australia: Sinful Acts. See http://www.xfamily.org for more on this cult.[/list]
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      Re: People must like to be sheep
      « Reply #4 on: December 19, 2009, 12:53:43 PM »
      I didn't mean selling the video or the song.
      I meant "selling " the concept of the family itself.
      These people look like complete dorks!
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      Re: People must like to be sheep
      « Reply #5 on: December 19, 2009, 12:57:13 PM »
      it's not funny, there's nothing funny about this cult, Ursus.  The Family is one of the most destructive and generally evil groups in all of American religious history, second only to the COS in terms of the damage done to present, second-generation, and former members.  The Family is a cult in which the sexual abuse of children forms a part of the very core of their theology; it's basically a highly sexualized, quasi-Christian cult made up of of a bunch of fugitive pedophiles and their second-and-third generation kids leading the WS and CRO units.  Do you realize that?   And then you've got the "Loving Jesus" doctrine.  Sickening.  This cult is perverse in every sense, and Zerby and Kelly make me want to vomit.
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      Re: People must like to be sheep
      « Reply #6 on: December 19, 2009, 01:01:08 PM »
      Quote from: "none-ya"
      I meant "selling " the concept of the family itself.
      At some point in the 1960s, David Berg switched from mainstream preaching to targeting "counter culture" people who were "searching" for something or, at the very least, were not rooted in the status quo or a staid routine. His favorite group was the hippies. His schtick / selling point was that mainstream culture, including mainstream church culture, was full of phoniness and hypocrisy.
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      Re: People must like to be sheep
      « Reply #7 on: December 19, 2009, 01:02:48 PM »
      Quote from: "SEKTO"
      it's not funny, there's nothing funny about this cult, Ursus.  The Family is one of the most destructive and generally evil groups in all of American religious history, second only to the COS in terms of the damage done to present, second-generation, and former members.  The Family is a cult in which the sexual abuse of children forms a part of the very core of their theology; it's basically a highly sexualized, quasi-Christian cult made up of of a bunch of fugitive pedophiles and their second-and-third generation kids leading the WS and CRO units.  Do you realize that?   And then you've got the "Loving Jesus" doctrine.  Sickening.  This cult is perverse in every sense, and Zerby and Kelly make me want to vomit.
      I fully concur with all of that, SEKTO. You misread my gallows humor.
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      Re: People must like to be sheep
      « Reply #8 on: December 19, 2009, 01:03:48 PM »
      No laughing matter at all, my friend.  There are some things that you just don't joke about.  This is an evil, evil group.
       
      Watch this if you really want to know more about the early history of the COG/Family:

      http://www.xfamily.org/index.php/The_Lo ... ren_of_God
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      Re: People must like to be sheep
      « Reply #9 on: December 19, 2009, 01:18:40 PM »
      ???  I'm afraid that I don't get where you are coming from.  Brainwashed?  Me?
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      Re: People must like to be sheep
      « Reply #10 on: December 19, 2009, 04:28:48 PM »
      Okay, while we’re reenacting and all. I suppose it’s been told that a pull up on one of my peers comes with the threat of my feedback.

      Irreverence aside, I can see where SEKTO is coming from on this topic. From the tone of the OP it was a topic I had hoped he would avoid. He has a knowledge and expertise of quite a few cultic organizations, this one in particular.

      This is a nasty group of deluded kid fuckers and the people who were born into this cult were born into a hell being called their family and their salvation. In addition to having their minds fucked with and their bodies used, this trying life they’ve  inherited  has burdened  them with all that comes with a trauma history and the additional twist of causing lasting damage to their spiritual selves.
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      Re: People must like to be sheep
      « Reply #11 on: December 19, 2009, 04:39:25 PM »
      Quote from: "Inculcated"
      Okay, while we’re reenacting and all. I suppose it’s been told that a pull up on one of my peers comes with the threat of my feedback.

      Irreverence aside, I can see where SEKTO is coming from on this topic. From the tone of the OP it was a topic I had hoped he would avoid. He has a knowledge and expertise of quite a few cultic organizations, this one in particular.

      This is a nasty group of deluded kid fuckers and the people who were born into this cult were born into a hell being called their family and their salvation. In addition to having their minds fucked with and their bodies used, this trying life they’ve  inherited  has burdened  them with all that comes with a trauma history and the additional twist of causing lasting damage to their spiritual selves.

      i cant see where anyone has voiced any problem with THAT. (so far!)
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      Wolves in sheeps clothing
      « Reply #12 on: December 19, 2009, 05:07:54 PM »
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      Re: People must like to be sheep
      « Reply #13 on: December 19, 2009, 05:37:39 PM »
      Quote from: "Eliscu2"
      SETKO, slow your roll you brainwashed motherfucker!
      Cut down on the Adderall, you are getting really irratable.
      You are now being brainwashed by the psych industry.
      Take your Labels and excuses elsewhere.
      Save yourself, before you decide to save the world.

      *You have been chosen to recieve my random confrontational attack therapy for today!

      Jeez! Eliscu2, a little over the edge and harsh.  You sound like a member of that cult!  Maybe you should lay off the meth so you aren't so "iratable" and maybe learn to spell while you're at it.
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      Send your complaints about the ire of Eliscu2 to élan
      « Reply #14 on: December 19, 2009, 06:40:54 PM »
      No, she does not sound like a member of COG, those fuckers. If she found herself in the midst
      of one of their gatherings there would be a reckoning visited upon them like ???????? had wrought it.
      *She did note that this was a random confrontational attack therapy. I blame Pfizer.
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