AARC suing CL?

[Whooter]

You just said earlier in this thread that you never said you were arrested (a lie) and that you never went to Chicago (a lie).  I'm working with the two provable lies you just posted in this thread while claiming I was a liar and you never said those things.

Readers can discount everything you say because you lie so much you can't even keep the lies straight.

What I see is that it is well documented that I stated several times I was arrested while I was in college.... if you have anything else you can provide the link.

Now is it a coincidence that Reuben was arrested several times in Boston and also in Ann Arbor, Michigan?  I don't think it is.  In fact, I know it isn't.

Show us the link where Reuben was arrested the same time I was (missing piece of your argument)

It's also not true that you haven't been arrested since age 22.  You were arrested several times after that age.  Care to explain that discrepency as well?  Care to explain if you were lying now or then?  And why you lied?

If you believe it to be not true then provide the evidence... so far it is all talk.


I think the kicker for you is if you can place Rueben and myself in Chicago at this meeting in January of 2007.  You stated that Rueben, woodbury and others were there at this the time I was... can you provide this info?  The dates the woodbury meeting took place?

[Whooter]

TheWho claiming to have met in Chicago:

Well, I PM?d several people here on fornits and eventually we formed a ?Statistical group? and decided to meet at the Hyatt in Chicago about a month ago.  We spent 3 days hammering out a direction and figured we would tackle the TBS sector first.  We felt you were well respected here at fornits and had your hands around the other areas and were doing fine independently.  Your name was brought up several times so you were not forgotten or left out.

TheWho claiming to have met in Chicago

So the above post was written February 8, 2007 and indicates that a meeting was held a month prior putting it at around January 8, 2007.  

you both took a trip to Chicago to meet with Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and a host of other industry bogeymen just before STICC was launched.

Oh no!  STICC's was launched in 2004 and thewho had his meeting in 2007.  Bruce, Looks like you are off by 3 years, thewho wasnt even posting here in 2004.  What else do you have?

[Troll Control]

You just said earlier in this thread that you never said you were arrested (a lie) and that you never went to Chicago (a lie).  I'm working with the two provable lies you just posted in this thread while claiming I was a liar and you never said those things.

Readers can discount everything you say because you lie so much you can't even keep the lies straight.

Now is it a coincidence that Reuben was arrested several times in Boston and also in Ann Arbor, Michigan?  I don't think it is.  In fact, I know it isn't.

It's also not true that you haven't been arrested since age 22.  You were arrested several times after that age.  Care to explain that discrepency as well?  Care to explain if you were lying now or then?  And why you lied?

Yes, TheWho has been caught in several whoppers in this thread, but it's only a fraction of the amount of lies he has told.  These are just the ones he lied about today.  STICC was incorporated in 2004, but the site was launched and the "team" was finalized much later, right after the trip to Chicago.

So, was Whooter lying before when he said he didn't go to Chicago, or when he said he did several years ago?  Was he lying several years ago when he said he had an extensive arrest history, or just today when he claimed he never said that earlier in this thread?

See what I mean, people?  He lies constantly.  You can't believe a word he says!

Plus he doesn't want to tell about a little DUI (and a few other items) he had well after college when he claims his last arrest was.  He also doesn't want to explain why he's prohibited from owning a firearm.  Usually felons and domestic abusers fit this bill.  Which one is Whooter?  Felon?  Spousal abuser?  Both?  He sure doesn't want to elaborate...

[Whooter]

you both took a trip to Chicago to meet with Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and a host of other industry bogeymen just before STICC was launched.

STICC was launched in April of 2004 and thewhos post that you provided shows he was in chicago for the meeting in January of 2007.

If you had evidence of any kind to show that Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and Reuben were in Chicago in January 2007, when thewho was there, then I think we would all believe you.  What was the evidence or post that convinced you that this meeting took place?  I find it curious that you posted that but never provided the link.

[Troll Control]

you both took a trip to Chicago to meet with Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and a host of other industry bogeymen just before STICC was launched.

STICC was launched in April of 2004 and thewhos post that you provided shows he was in chicago for the meeting in January of 2007.

If you had evidence of any kind to show that Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and Reuben were in Chicago in January 2007, when thewho was there, then I think we would all believe you.  What was the evidence or post that convinced you that this meeting took place?  I find it curious that you posted that but never provided the link.

Lols.  Pinched.

[Whooter]

You started out really convincing but you basically have nothing.  You cant tie the meeting with Woodbury etal in Chicago to January of 2007 (not sure why you even mentioned Woodbury etal without some type of evidence, just wishful thinking?).  All we know is thewho was there.  You couldnt provide any evidence of Woodbury and the others being there and you toss up an email that isnt even mine. Good luck with all of that.
I guess if you are still convinced you could ask Psy if this person "Concerned Parent" and I have the same IP address.  I would consent to having this done if it makes you feel better and then he could see if I was posting from Chicago the same time Woodbury was there.

See,Bruce, you could really do some damage by proving that I was this poster "Concerned parent" and that I was in Chicago with Woodbury. I even give permission to check my ip address against the evidence you have.  

Let us readers and I know how you make out.

[Troll Control]

Whooter should try a little honesty for a change.

[Whooter]

Well it sure seems like you have yourself convinced, I'll give you that.  I think it would help us readers if you provided the links showing the lies and the ties to the chicago trip.  I noticed you provided a conference for 2006, but your previous post showed thewho was in Chicago in 2007.  I read where thewho said he was arrested in college and that is consistent with what he said on this thread too.

If you really feel this guy is Reuben you need to tie the two together somehow.  Your dates are not even close, some are off by over a year.  As far as the email goes that could have been anyone.  How do you know onekidatatime@yahoo.com is thewho?  You never established this.

It is all very interesting but you have not proved anything new here.
I look forward to the links.

[Whooter]

Leave Ajax alone.  When you have been told what to do and when to talk and who to talk to for years on end it is not easy to confront authority directly and sometimes it doesn’t matter if the person we are talking to is listening.  It just feels good to pretend we are and getting it off our chests is more important than who we are talking to.  So back the fuck off and let him post.

There are lots of people who do not like to confront people or problems head on.  There are people where I work who run down to the boiler room, close the door and scream their heads off and then quietly go back to their office and they feel better.
This is what I think posters like Ajax use fornits for.  It doesn’t matter if the person you are talking to reads your message, what matters is that you get out your frustration.
Thats whats going on here.

I think the message matters more than the energy that is behind it.

[Troll Control]

Topic continued here due to TheWho spamming with emoticons to avoid the subject of his criminal record and involvement with the TTI along with his identity (a.k.a. John Reuben).

[Anonymous]

Just like it's okay for a pilot to be conscious, or semi-conscious. Same thing, right, Johnny? The Minister who oversees residential facilities for children in care in the province said very specifically that AARC was not a residential facility, and the Sun then claimed that it was. AARC was using Christine Lunn to sell their program while she was still a client, and according to AARC being held in AARC by court order. I saw the promo on CFCN back in '97. In fact, AARC uses every single client to sell their program, as they are all required to attend AARC's fundraising beg-a-thons.

Let's get it right.

AARC is QUASI-Residential!

 :trophy:

[Whooter]

Just like it's okay for a pilot to be conscious, or semi-conscious. Same thing, right, Johnny? The Minister who oversees residential facilities for children in care in the province said very specifically that AARC was not a residential facility, and the Sun then claimed that it was. AARC was using Christine Lunn to sell their program while she was still a client, and according to AARC being held in AARC by court order. I saw the promo on CFCN back in '97. In fact, AARC uses every single client to sell their program, as they are all required to attend AARC's fundraising beg-a-thons.

Let's get it right.

AARC is QUASI-Residential!

 :trophy:

Good Point, laughing.  It could be Quasi - Residential.  Also, we have a school in our area which the papers are constantly calling a "Prep" school but the state lists it as a "High School".  People dont get mad at the papers definition or the states.  I think Ajax13 justs likes to try to control what other people say.  Most of us care less what the place is called as long as they continue to help these people.

As far as Christine Lunn goes she wasnt attending the fundraiser she was actively working to raise money for AARC by her own free will.

[Whooter]

Just like it's okay for a pilot to be conscious, or semi-conscious. Same thing, right, Johnny? The Minister who oversees residential facilities for children in care in the province said very specifically that AARC was not a residential facility, and the Sun then claimed that it was. AARC was using Christine Lunn to sell their program while she was still a client, and according to AARC being held in AARC by court order. I saw the promo on CFCN back in '97. In fact, AARC uses every single client to sell their program, as they are all required to attend AARC's fundraising beg-a-thons.

Let's get it right.

AARC is QUASI-Residential!

 :trophy:

Good Point, laughing.  It could be Quasi - Residential.  Also, we have a school in our area which the papers are constantly calling a "Prep" school but the state lists it as a "High School".  People dont get mad at the papers definition or the states.  I think Ajax13 justs likes to try to control what other people say.  Most of us care less what the place is called as long as they continue to help these people.

As far as Christine Lunn goes she wasnt attending the fundraiser she was actively working to raise money for AARC by her own free will.

I understand what you are saying, but not sure if I agree with you.

[Whooter]

Here I will refresh your memory:

]you both took a trip to Chicago to meet with Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and a host of other industry bogeymen just before STICC was launched.

You say both?  You could probably document this Reuben guy as being there, but how do you place me there?  You say you have documented evidence.  Evidence would mean I was posting from Chicago at the same time this meeting took place.  That may raise some eyebrows I would say.  But you see you dont have that evidence because I wasnt there.  

So you said I was there just before STICC was launched.  STICC was launched in April of 2004.  You also said I was with Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and a host of other industry bogeymen.  Do you care to try to deny you said this?

In February of 2007 I wrote:
Well, I PM?d several people here on fornits and eventually we formed a ?Statistical group? and decided to meet at the Hyatt in Chicago about a month ago. We spent 3 days hammering out a direction and figured we would tackle the TBS sector first. We felt you were well respected here at fornits and had your hands around the other areas and were doing fine independently. Your name was brought up several times so you were not forgotten or left out.

  Link

So where is the lie?