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Offline Whooter

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Re: Abuse can be rehabilitation
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2009, 07:19:04 PM »
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No, you're actually so dumb you don't get it.  If McCain bitched about the North Koreans, who you claim held him prisoner, even though it was the North Vietnamese (you apparently don't know the difference between these countries) that would be like program kids bitching about someone other than the program, like dentists or mail order catalogues.  God, you're stupid.  No wonder you can't get a job.

Where are your kids while you spent your whole Saturday on Fornits complaining about people on Fornits, of which you are the most frequent poster?  Guess they had to miss out again, huh?

He neglects his children to feed his ego on Fornits.  Pretty sad.

Nice argument!  Thanks for posting!
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Re: Abuse can be rehabilitation
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2009, 08:21:54 PM »
Yeah, I like to post the truth.  You neglect your kids.  Plain and simple.  Thanks for admitting it and agreeing with me.
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Re: Abuse can be rehabilitation
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2009, 08:44:53 PM »
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No, you're actually so dumb you don't get it.  If McCain bitched about the North Koreans, who you claim held him prisoner, even though it was the North Vietnamese (you apparently don't know the difference between these countries) that would be like program kids bitching about someone other than the program, like dentists or mail order catalogues.  God, you're stupid.  No wonder you can't get a job.

Where are your kids while you spent your whole Saturday on Fornits complaining about people on Fornits, of which you are the most frequent poster?  Guess they had to miss out again, huh?

or maybe a better example would be like kids who complain about their parents when it was the kids actions which ended them up in the program.  Then when they dont apply themselves and end up at age 20 without a degree they start to moan about how abusive the program was and how it ruined their lives.  They have to blame someone right.  Couldnt possibly be their own fault.

Well until about the age of 23- 25 kids identify themselves as an extension of their family.  Anything that goes right or wrong in their lives is associated and ties back with the family unit.  So it is understandable for kids to initially blame their parents or the program for their situation.   But as the child matures they start to take accountability for their own lives and actions.  At this point they start to realize how they screwed up and what they put their parents and family through.  drugs and alcohol slow down the maturation process so some people take longer than others to come to terms with what they did in their past and apologize to their family.
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Re: Abuse can be rehabilitation
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2009, 09:34:09 PM »
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it was the kids actions which ended them up in the program.

wrongy dongy, it was the parents reaction to the kids actions that caused the
 to incarcerate their kids.  McCain may not have whined about the North Koreans but he has sure as heck spoken loud and clear about his treatment at the hands of the North Vietnamese...
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Re: Abuse can be rehabilitation
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2009, 12:46:14 AM »
Abuse is not rehabilitation. You can't teach respect via abuse. Another thing is, that many kids sent to programs are NOT bad kids. They are neglected, different, or oppositional. I went to a program. I was depressed and could not stay in school. I also had some traumatic experiences. I was a not a druggie, a liar, a whore - I never even stole anything! I did not deserve to be manipulated, lied to, emotionally and psychologically abused and exploited. I did not learn to respect or value myself at the program. I learned to shut up and take the abuse.

Honestly, the inquiry itself - "abuse as rehab" is just insulting.
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Re: Abuse can be rehabilitation
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2009, 07:20:05 AM »
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Well until about the age of 23- 25 kids identify themselves as an extension of their family.  Anything that goes right or wrong in their lives is associated and ties back with the family unit.  So it is understandable for kids to initially blame their parents or the program for their situation.   But as the child matures they start to take accountability for their own lives and actions.  At this point they start to realize how they screwed up and what they put their parents and family through.  drugs and alcohol slow down the maturation process so some people take longer than others to come to terms with what they did in their past and apologize to their family.

I have seen this as well, the kids who are still blaming programs and their parents well into their late 20's are still abusing substances like drugs and alcohol.  But eventually they mature.  Drugs dont stop the maturation process they just severly retard the process so they do eventually mature.  You will notice the typical poster here are in their early 20's.
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Re: Abuse can be rehabilitation
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2009, 07:26:25 AM »
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Well until about the age of 23- 25 kids identify themselves as an extension of their family.  Anything that goes right or wrong in their lives is associated and ties back with the family unit.  So it is understandable for kids to initially blame their parents or the program for their situation.   But as the child matures they start to take accountability for their own lives and actions.  At this point they start to realize how they screwed up and what they put their parents and family through.  drugs and alcohol slow down the maturation process so some people take longer than others to come to terms with what they did in their past and apologize to their family.

I have seen this as well, the kids who are still blaming programs and their parents well into their late 20's are still abusing substances like drugs and alcohol.  But eventually they mature.  Drugs dont stop the maturation process they just severly retard the process so they do eventually mature.  You will notice the typical poster here are in their early 20's.

Not Mike Reuben.  He completed 2 programs that you recommend and support.  Finished both.  Then he killed himself with heroin.  Your logic doesn't hold water.
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Re: Abuse can be rehabilitation
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2009, 09:21:34 AM »
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Abuse is not rehabilitation. You can't teach respect via abuse. Another thing is, that many kids sent to programs are NOT bad kids. They are neglected, different, or oppositional. I went to a program. I was depressed and could not stay in school. I also had some traumatic experiences. I was a not a druggie, a liar, a whore - I never even stole anything! I did not deserve to be manipulated, lied to, emotionally and psychologically abused and exploited. I did not learn to respect or value myself at the program. I learned to shut up and take the abuse.

Honestly, the inquiry itself - "abuse as rehab" is just insulting.
I agree, and thought so from the start of this thread.  :feedtrolls:
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2009, 11:16:09 PM »
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Well until about the age of 23- 25 kids identify themselves as an extension of their family.  Anything that goes right or wrong in their lives is associated and ties back with the family unit.  So it is understandable for kids to initially blame their parents or the program for their situation.   But as the child matures they start to take accountability for their own lives and actions.  At this point they start to realize how they screwed up and what they put their parents and family through.  drugs and alcohol slow down the maturation process so some people take longer than others to come to terms with what they did in their past and apologize to their family.
I have seen this as well, the kids who are still blaming programs and their parents well into their late 20's are still abusing substances like drugs and alcohol.  But eventually they mature.  Drugs dont stop the maturation process they just severly retard the process so they do eventually mature.  You will notice the typical poster here are in their early 20's.
Really???!! That's News to me! Gotta wonder what respite YOU find here, were that indeed the case!  :roflmao:

Btw, nice touch, stringing all these posts responding to one another 'bout the demographics of teen drug abuse... I'm sure someone will find your conversation with self r-e-a-l helpful.  :D
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Re: Abuse can be rehabilitation
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2009, 07:35:14 PM »
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I suppose sometimes Abuse can be rehabilitation.............
The State of wisconsin FORCED me to take so many Psych drugs that I never want to see another drug again.

Thats so evil. Is this still an issue? If you dont feel comfortable answering, please dont. But I hope you have managed to escape psychiatry mandated torture.
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Re: Abuse can be rehabilitation
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2009, 01:30:27 PM »
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Re: Abuse can be rehabilitation
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2009, 02:14:15 PM »
^^ glad u finally decided to get honest about yourself ^^

Happy thx giving!
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