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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #60 on: November 01, 2009, 11:49:36 AM »
...or even one secret $tr8 survivor secret agent could infiltrate Miller's foundation and run a sabotage campaign that would bring all kinds of negative attention from the church elders, ultimately leading to his defrocktion.

I don't know maybe we could all just join Hippie in his letter writing too.  You know like if everyone wrote a letter supporting Hippies letter that might work.  Of course they couldn't be crazy "I can't wait to dance on Virgil's grave" letters, but just inform the church elders who this guy really is, without making it too personal...I actually know Hippie so if I were to write a supporting letter, even though I'm not amember of the church it might lend Hippies letter some credibility... :roflmao: ... :eek: ... ???
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #61 on: November 01, 2009, 11:57:56 AM »
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I don't know maybe we could all just join Hippie in his letter writing too.  You know like if everyone wrote a letter supporting Hippies letter that might work.  Of course they couldn't be crazy "I can't wait to dance on Virgil's grave" letters, but just inform the church elders who this guy really is, without making it too personal...I actually know Hippie so if I were to write a supporting letter, even though I'm not amember of the church it might lend Hippies letter some credibility... :roflmao: ... :eek: ... ???

No, yeah, this part I'm serious about.  It might help, but we should let Hippie take the lead on this and let us know what we can do to help.   :shamrock:  O0
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #62 on: November 01, 2009, 11:58:56 AM »
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Hasn't he been trying to tell them about Newt for a few years now?  I thought I remembered him posting rather extensively about his plans to do so.
Actually, I don't think he ever got around to doing it, so it's about time!

Even if he hasnt, rather than Still-a-Hip approaching the church alone, it would be in his best interest if he had our support. Still-a-Hip, please take this the way I write it. I know your a sensitive being and I know the intense emotions you can go thru. You do not have to do what we are purposing. If you choose to help in this endeavor, we....I will be willing travel to where ever it is we need to go and stand beside you and present this to the elders of your church. You would not have to be alone in doing so. We have reams of information regarding Miller Newton, we have testimony, we have our own experiance with Miller.

As crafty and snake like as he is, it is ill advised to take this adversary alone without support. I know your anger and outrage at Millers denegration of the good name of your church. You know he should not be there, I know he shouldnt be there and I venture to say Miller knows he doesnt belong there. Its now time Matt, for Miller to be brought down to size. He is not a boogey man to be afraid of. He is a pathetic piece of shit that has no control over us any longer. At the mere sight of us, one can see he has a visceral reaction to us. He simply is afraid. His words are moot, his threats are bogus his power is what it has always been....nothing. More and more see it with our own eyes. He is a pathetic old man desperately trying to use your Churches good name to control, generate fear in good folks that only wish a closer relationship with thier God. And you know Miller as well, if not better than I do. You know he will do nothing but sabotage thier desire to be closer to thier God. He has planned some sort of "Act of Civil Disobeiance" which no doubt will include his followers...there is no reason for any harm to be brought to them while caught up in his bid for power. Matt, we can prevent this.

For the sake of your church, for the sake of the good people under his rule, help us expose Miller Newton as the liar that he is. Its too late for our justice, but the justice for those in his flock is timely. The good that comes out of our efforts, is not for our benifit, but for the seekers of your faith....they are the ones now in jepordy, the innocents now....the families now....the children now. It would be less than honest to imply we would not derive satisfaction from seeing him stripped of power, that is true. But today, now, tonight, this upcoming week he will have direct influence on your brothers and sisters of your faith.

For what ever reason this has been an oversight. It may have been mentioned, but set on the back burner. This is most unfortunate. As I said, what ever support you need, physical, finacial, emotional assistance you need, I will do everything in my power to assist you and I venture to say I am not alone.

Much Healing
Much Peace
woof

PS. I know Still-a-Hip has dropped from the radar recently, but I have his contact info and will get in touch with him.
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #63 on: November 01, 2009, 12:08:19 PM »
Yeah, there's something else stillahippie was talking about doing, and I was going to go into it here, but on second thought, I should refrain from elaborating publically, lest I spoil any fun.
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #64 on: November 01, 2009, 01:54:15 PM »
Hey....I'm all for it and will do whatever I can to help.  I think that's probably our best shot and what would do the most damage to him.  As I've been saying, he thrives on....LIVES for the adulation and respect of others in the community.  So far, we've whittled that down to an extremely small segment of the population.  It's time to bring the hammer down on his last vestige of refuge.  He is in NO WAY a 'clergyman'.  He fancies himself on believing that he's important or holds some stature in the community at large, but as evidenced at EVERY turn..he's dead wrong.
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #65 on: November 01, 2009, 07:49:40 PM »
Have contacted Stll-a-Hip!  Stop
He is willing to do what is nessasary. Stop
Am exhausted. Stop
Must sleep. Stop
We will Survive. Stop
We will Thrive  Stop
More in the morning. Stop

Much Healing
Much Peace
woof
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #66 on: November 02, 2009, 07:42:02 AM »
In an effort to save time and relieve the cramps in my hands from typing since 0500, I will post my responce to Still-a-Hip which he wrote on the Yahoo Board, I am in hopes he will not mind if I do so, considering the spirit inwhich it was writen.

--- In Straight_Inc_Alumni@yahoogroups.com, "hippie"
<stillahippie564@...> wrote:
>
> woof wrote and called me...i'm almost ready...give me a time table to
go on and i'll make sure i can swing this journey back to the place all
this started for me....
>

Still-a-Hip
I was glad to get a hold of you! I know enotions are running high now,
for you, for myself and for many many others. Your experiance with
Straight is your own. My experiance with Straight was my own. They are
seperate experiances experianced by two seperate beings. If we look at a
larger picture we will see, lets say a 1000 of us had 1000 esperiances.
That is a 1000 different experiances with Straight Inc. Each one varies
with the individuals experiance, and each one is different. Different
due to experiance, due to individual perceptions, due to differnt
"Buildings", due to time spent in the respective "Buildings" and due to
the amount of time we each have been seperate from Straight Inc.

In middle school mathmaticcs I learned of the LCD, The Least Common
Denominator. Our Least Common Denominator is Straight Inc. There is a
tendency for me to forget this from time to time. I remember MY program.
I remember how "I" was abused. I remember the shit "I" went thru. Just
the same you remember "your" program. You remember how "you" were
abused. And you rember the shit "you" went thru. It is obvious to say
that our own experiances resonates thru our own minds and to our own
minds, it does seem to take precedence over anothers experiance. But
lets not for get the LCD, the Least Common Denominator. We all went thru
Straight Inc. It is not in our favor to merely focus on our individual
experiance. We are a collective group of individuals, with a vast amount
of experiances, some bad, some terrible, some horible, some unspeakable,
some that go beyond all I have just listed and bless thier souls, that
have removed themselves from this sphere we call earth.

It is a huge picture to wrap our minds around, we need to hear/read of
each individuals experiance to begin to grasp the Straight Inc.
experiance. This does not imply that as individuals we forget our
personal experiance, but merely set it to the side and allow for others
expressed experiance. Here is where and how I think we can sooth our
high state of emotions now. In the story of the Three Musketers (sp),
there is a line which for whatever reason has stuck with me from the
first time I read the story. That line is; "It is not enough to fight
against something, it is more important that we fight for something."
That is we fight for the greater good, we fight for all!

Thinking along these lines, I think perhaps we can individually calm our
individual emotions. With a clear mind, with clear intent we can make
clear descions that serve the greater good. I, alone, by myself can not
fight and expect the desired outcome. You, alone, by yourself can not
fight and expect the desired results. None of us can fight, alone, by
ourself can not fight and expect the desired result.

Lets put our minds together as one. Yes, a tall order, a seemingly
impossible task, yet i think it essentual that we do so...if the desired
result is to be obtained. But how are we to put our minds together as
one, that is to unify? Well, it seems prudent that we begin with the
merely obvious, discontinue the things that seperate us. The idea of
"Me" and "THEM/OTHERS" must morph into "US" and or "WE".

This, that which we spoke about last night, is not my fight, just the
same it is not your fight, this is not Anne Booney's fight, this is not
Richard Bradbury's fight...This is "OUR" fight. We can not afford to
forget this vital piece of insight.

Myself, and others involved appreciate your willingness to assist us in
this endeavor. As game plans are drawn (you will be included) and dates
are set, all our T's are dotted and our I's crossed we will keep you
well advised. We have much to do, much to plan and much to discuss. Let
us set aside our differences if only for a short time (there will be
plenty of time to resume our normal state of afairs, back-biting,
bickering and bantering) let us be patient with each other, let us
encourage, support and comfort each other. And when the lighting is
right, when the music is right and the mood is right....we shall dance!

Much has been said of "fighting", this may seem contrary to my normal
stance of Peace & Healing. Let us exchange the word "fight" with the
word "effort". We have a general idea of the task before us, it would be
misleading to imply that this is a slam dunk type of effort. Infact, at
present it seems like a massive undertaking, perhaps due to my own
mental/emotional state of exhaustion, here is were I/we must rely on
each others support, encouragement and care. I know others have my back,
I know you now, along with others will lift my spirits by each of your
own efforts, ideas, and individual talents. I know, intellectually and
emotionally this to be true. I also know my sprits will be lifted in
days to come. I knew this yesterday, my spirit began to rise immediately
following our conversation.

My wish for you and all of us as a collective body of Survivors;

Much Healing
Much Peace
woof
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #67 on: November 02, 2009, 12:26:25 PM »
I would be willing to help in anyway that I can.  I would be happy to write a letter to the church detailing my experiences while I had my weekend stay at the retreat in question.  I have a copy of Newton's version of a drug assessment he did on me, as proof that he is indeed still playing that game.  I'm sure you all are familiar with the five levels.  Just tell me what to do.  I'm so grateful that there are people out there willing to take up this fight.  I think woof put it well,

Quote
But
lets not for get the LCD, the Least Common Denominator. We all went thru
Straight Inc. It is not in our favor to merely focus on our individual
experiance. We are a collective group of individuals, with a vast amount
of experiances, some bad, some terrible, some horible, some unspeakable,
some that go beyond all I have just listed and bless thier souls, that
have removed themselves from this sphere we call earth.

....

Quote
That line is; "It is not enough to fight
against something, it is more important that we fight for something."
That is we fight for the greater good, we fight for all!

Thinking along these lines, I think perhaps we can individually calm our
individual emotions. With a clear mind, with clear intent we can make
clear descions that serve the greater good. I, alone, by myself can not
fight and expect the desired outcome. You, alone, by yourself can not
fight and expect the desired results. None of us can fight, alone, by
ourself can not fight and expect the desired result.

Lets put our minds together as one. Yes, a tall order, a seemingly
impossible task, yet i think it essentual that we do so...if the desired
result is to be obtained. But how are we to put our minds together as
one, that is to unify? Well, it seems prudent that we begin with the
merely obvious, discontinue the things that seperate us. The idea of
"Me" and "THEM/OTHERS" must morph into "US" and or "WE".

This, that which we spoke about last night, is not my fight, just the
same it is not your fight, this is not Anne Booney's fight, this is not
Richard Bradbury's fight...This is "OUR" fight. We can not afford to
forget this vital piece of insight.

cheers
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #68 on: November 02, 2009, 01:06:05 PM »
Quote from: "hp456"
I would be willing to help in anyway that I can.  I would be happy to write a letter to the church detailing my experiences while I had my weekend stay at the retreat in question.  I have a copy of Newton's version of a drug assessment he did on me, as proof that he is indeed still playing that game.  I'm sure you all are familiar with the five levels.  Just tell me what to do.  I'm so grateful that there are people out there willing to take up this fight.  I think woof put it well,

Wait.  :eek:   Wait, wait, wait a minute.  You spent a weekend at his "church"?!  How did this come about?  How long ago was it?  What happened while you were there?

Glad you got away.
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #69 on: November 02, 2009, 01:32:01 PM »
He's used that "church" for drug treatment referalls/assessments to a program that was directly related to straight inc. It has been known for some time, however, since that particular program is closed, there is most likely another one that is being used in this regard. (AARC, Teen Challenge etc...). Current Newton followers come from the KIDS era as well. As always, anything you can do to help investigate and expose this activity would be greatly appreciated.  :nods:
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #70 on: November 02, 2009, 01:34:29 PM »
There is a post from someone on another thread that claims to have been sent to PFC (I think) after a "counseling" session or two with Newton.......is that you?
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #71 on: November 02, 2009, 01:37:45 PM »
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Miller Newton is still involved with Kids Helping Kids.  He is the reason that I was sent into that program.  I had an 'intervention' if you could call it that in Florida at his spiritual retreat, he's a greek orthodox priest now i guess, and he recommended to my parents that i be sent to khk.  they didn't even do an assessment of me.  I wasn't a heavy drug user, my entire family has apologized for sending me there, they said they were scared into it, which is understandable i guess, but it sucks that i lost those years to that place.  i was in just because miller newton referred me there.  although i guess it technically isn't kids helping kids anymore, it's pathways family center.

This is the post, it's in the "Call Miller Newton" thread, and originally on the KHK forum......
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #72 on: November 02, 2009, 02:10:39 PM »
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He's used that "church" for drug treatment referalls/assessments to a program that was directly related to straight inc. It has been known for some time, however, since that particular program is closed, there is most likely another one that is being used in this regard. (AARC, Teen Challenge etc...). Current Newton followers come from the KIDS era as well. As always, anything you can do to help investigate and expose this activity would be greatly appreciated.  :nods:

I've been thinking a lot about that girl that was at the retreat when I was there.  If she has turned away from Newton, what he did to her (specifically as a priest or while at the retreat for defrocking purposes) could be very powerful as far as shutting Newton down.  I also can't help but think that he's created a mini program like that for others, and may still do that.  Did I read in this thread that he rents out that space now?  Who are the tenants?  I wonder if any are undergoing a mini Newton program.  With that particular girl, I wonder if her family paid him to do that?  Or maybe that he is 'counseling' the current tenants and making money off of the rent?  I have always wondered, what does he gain from doing this?  Is is strictly monetary?  I am very interested in doing anything to stop this sort of activity, family rejection or not.  As always, I am unsure of the next steps that need to be taken.
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #73 on: November 02, 2009, 02:13:30 PM »
If Newton is using this facility for any purpose other than what he has disclosed to the City of Madeira Beach then that would revoke his usage of the property period!

If you have such proof email it to me at www.orangetoiletnews.com
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Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« Reply #74 on: November 02, 2009, 02:33:29 PM »
Quote from: "Smith Mr"
If Newton is using this facility for any purpose other than what he has disclosed to the City of Madeira Beach then that would revoke his usage of the property period!

If you have such proof email it to me at http://www.orangetoiletnews.com


That's what I'm thinking too!!!  I wish I'd had this info before the hearing...I'd have definitely brought it to the attention of the hearing master.  Lemme know if there's anything I can do.
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