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COALITION AGAINST INSTITUTIONALIZED CHILD ABUSE
« on: September 20, 2009, 01:22:35 AM »
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The CAICA website is dedicated to promoting awareness of injuries and deaths
  to children and youth in treatment programs, schools, the juvenile justice system,
  and other settings, and to increase our resolve to reform programs and promote
  safety for all children and youth. We welcome families, researchers, academics,
  media, attorneys, and advocates to use the information on this website.
  We hope that the information on this website will provide incentive to parents
  nationwide to carefully scrutinize programs offered to their children, to demand
  better accountability, and to work for systems reform so that we understand
  what is happening, why it is happening, and how we achieve positive change.
  The actual number of incidents of injuries and deaths due to restraints, seclusion,
  aversives, and coercive interventions to children and youth in treatment programs,
  schools, the juvenile justice system, and other settings, remains unknown. It is
  suspected that those reported to the media are only the tip of the iceberg and
  that the tip of the iceberg itself is not routinely archived.
http://www.caica.org/
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Re: COALITION AGAINST INSTITUTIONALIZED CHILD ABUSE
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2009, 01:24:35 AM »
A reference to the death of Dawnne Takeuchi was posted by a guest in another thread with a link to CAICA.
             http://www.caica.org/NEWS%20Deaths%20Li ... mitted.htm
Dawnne Takeuchi 18 years old Died: 6/25/95 Thrown from semi-truck driven by program staff (Vision Quest); driver convicted of careless driving
 
Robert Rollins 12 years old Died 4/21/97 Asphyxiation while restrained after a dispute about his teddy bear
Robert was restrained for 10 minutes, face down on the floor, after a dispute escalated over his missing teddy bear. Investigators found
a significant delay in emergency response. The (Devereaux, Rutland, Mass.) staffer who restrained the boy left him lying, unresponsive, on the floor.
No criminal charges were filed.

COALITION AGAINST INSTITUTIONALIZED CHILD ABUSE
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Re: COALITION AGAINST INSTITUTIONALIZED CHILD ABUSE
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2009, 10:12:20 AM »
CAICA is run by Isabelle Zehnder.  A bit about here here:
http://www.sueschefftruth.com/?p=20

tl;dr she refers kids to Scheff who refers them to programs under the premise that they're "better" than the ones on CAICA's site.  She's very selective about which programs she chooses to put up on her watch-list.
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Re: COALITION AGAINST INSTITUTIONALIZED CHILD ABUSE
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2009, 01:16:31 PM »
Say it aint so Psy,

It was a weird night late last night and my reading comprehension may be suffering for it.

Are you telling me that the person who maintains a site that bears an attempt at a comprehensive list of the names of children who’ve died in programs/institutions and the senseless circumstances surrounding their deaths, also makes referrals to programs?

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Asked and answered.
Okay, I followed the link and was outraged by the irreconcilable dissonance of this woman. http://www.sueschefftruth.com/?p=20
So, she defended a program even after it was shown to be abusive and shut down…

I wonder if her compendium of the most extreme outcome of abusive programs/institutions is somehow a tacit way to imply that
her referrals are death proofed. What has she professed her criteria for endorsements to be?
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Re: COALITION AGAINST INSTITUTIONALIZED CHILD ABUSE
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2009, 02:00:07 PM »
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Say it aint so Psy,

It was a weird night late last night and my reading comprehension may be suffering for it.

Are you telling me that the person who maintains a site that bears an attempt at a comprehensive list of the names of children who’ve died in programs/institutions and the senseless circumstances surrounding their deaths, also makes referrals to programs?
Through Sue Scheff, yes.  And not in ignorance either. Whitmore parents contacted here and told her about the kinds of programs sue referred to but she didn't care.  It's not like the information wasn't out there either.

Isac has a piece written up about it (you'll see her on the watchlist):
http://isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp

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The latest trend involves something even more sinister and deceptive.

Since people have gotten wind of the for-profit referral business, referrers are now teaming up with "child advocates."

These "advocates" will gladly tell you how awful a particular facility is, then direct you towards someone who will help you find an alternative.

We don't know what kind of financial arrangement is going on behind the scenes, but we're sure there is one.

Regardless of what they call themselves, these referrers are NOT qualified to diagnose your child over the phone and they aren't qualified to judge a program as being "good."

And don't forget - they are being PAID to tell you the facility is good.

Quite simply, the internet isn't regulated and the referral business isn't regulated.

We recommend that parents NOT use the internet to find a program for their child.

You just have no way of knowing what kind of person you are entrusting your child to.
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Re: COALITION AGAINST INSTITUTIONALIZED CHILD ABUSE
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2009, 02:08:31 PM »
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... And not in ignorance either. Whitmore parents contacted here and told her about the kinds of programs sue referred to but she didn't care.  It's not like the information wasn't out there either.

Isac has a piece written up about it (you'll see her on the watchlist):
http://isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp

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The latest trend involves something even more sinister and deceptive.

Since people have gotten wind of the for-profit referral business, referrers are now teaming up with "child advocates."

These "advocates" will gladly tell you how awful a particular facility is, then direct you towards someone who will help you find an alternative.

We don't know what kind of financial arrangement is going on behind the scenes, but we're sure there is one.

Regardless of what they call themselves, these referrers are NOT qualified to diagnose your child over the phone and they aren't qualified to judge a program as being "good."

And don't forget - they are being PAID to tell you the facility is good.

Quite simply, the internet isn't regulated and the referral business isn't regulated.

We recommend that parents NOT use the internet to find a program for their child.

You just have no way of knowing what kind of person you are entrusting your child to.
So it’s not some dissonance to be perplexed by. It is willful stupidity brought on by her own cupidity.
I feel hate.
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Re: COALITION AGAINST INSTITUTIONALIZED CHILD ABUSE
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2009, 02:27:31 PM »
At Spft we use Caica's articles.

For those programs the people behind Caica and Pure refer to we use other sources.

We have limited ressources and why not let some others do the job for us?
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Re: COALITION AGAINST INSTITUTIONALIZED CHILD ABUSE
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2009, 02:47:07 PM »
I'm with ya on that, Oscar. SPFT has always been the dispassionate, "inch-worm, just give me all the data" source for info on the troubled parent industry. I haven't looked recently, but do you provide some sort of disclaimer or notice of controversy about CAICA? Would you consider doing that?
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Re: COALITION AGAINST INSTITUTIONALIZED CHILD ABUSE
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2009, 06:04:07 PM »
Whenever we quote strugglingteens, which we have to because they also brings press releases when programs shuts down we always put "- an industry marketing firm" in the end of our references.

It is the same with CAICA. They are a "referral agency"

CAICA is in fact doing an exellent job of putting WWASP and public programs in Florida down.

As a Danish woman is political prisoner in Florida, we don't mind whenever bad publicity hit the prison system in Florida.
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Re: COALITION AGAINST INSTITUTIONALIZED CHILD ABUSE
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2009, 09:35:34 PM »
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The CAICA website is dedicated to promoting awareness of injuries and deaths
  to children and youth in treatment programs, schools, the juvenile justice system,
  and other settings, and to increase our resolve to reform programs and promote
  safety for all children and youth. We welcome families, researchers, academics,
  media, attorneys, and advocates to use the information on this website.
  We hope that the information on this website will provide incentive to parents
  nationwide to carefully scrutinize programs offered to their children, to demand
  better accountability, and to work for systems reform so that we understand
  what is happening, why it is happening, and how we achieve positive change.
  The actual number of incidents of injuries and deaths due to restraints, seclusion,
  aversives, and coercive interventions to children and youth in treatment programs,
  schools, the juvenile justice system, and other settings, remains unknown. It is
  suspected that those reported to the media are only the tip of the iceberg and
  that the tip of the iceberg itself is not routinely archived.
http://www.caica.org/

Disclaimer: The CAN does not endorse or recognize CAICA as a legitimate resource for education about the troubled teen industry nor does the CAN affiliate with CAICA in any way, shape, or form.
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