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« on: August 28, 2003, 08:35:00 PM »
http://www.wwasp.com/source03/Aug-03L.pdf -

Someone, I think it was SPOTS had written a note about the staff "loving" the students and what that meant a couple of weeks ago. Looks like that question is answered in this edition.
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2003, 09:43:00 PM »
Wow!   :grin:
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2003, 12:34:00 AM »
Upper levels are required to write a happy story for the Source as part of their graduation process.

We are so over that facade .It smells bad.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2003, 12:13:00 PM »
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On 2003-08-28 21:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Upper levels are required to write a happy story for the Source as part of their graduation process.



We are so over that facade .It smells bad."


Hey, I graduated and no one ever told me that I needed to write a story for the Source, in fact, I only remember once that a staff asked if anyone wanted to write about anything, kinda in the middle of my stay there.  I think someone did.  If that were the case, smartass, there would be hundreds of happy stories and the magazine would turn into a book.  I'm so over your fascade...hey are you from that PURE place???  Sounds like it.  :rofl:
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2003, 01:02:00 PM »
In some WWASPS schools, I believe it is policy to require a "happy story" for The Source as a graduation requirement.  As for the tons of happy stories making this magazine a book, just as with all magazines, a great amount of material is submitted.  It is the job of the editorial staff to sift through and print those items which best suit the needs and "flavor" of the magazine.  This often represents only 1% of submissions, which would be a logical explanation as to why there is only a reasonable amount of graduate stories appearing.

It reflects poorly on your WWASPS experience to challenge a statement with "smart-ass" and the ever-present If-I-Can't-Think-of-Anything-Else statement about PURE.  Dear "graduate", if you don't even know what the PURE thing is about, perhaps you should refrain from making yourself look like a "smart ass".
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2003, 02:03:00 PM »
Spots - I know a grad would know if they are required to write happy stories or not.  After reading the publication, these stories don't look "made up", but very sincere.  Anyway, did the stories from the staff help you understand what "loving" the kids means?  The first one brought tears to my eyes. I could feel the love in her words.

As for the smart ass remark...I would have chosen "know it all", but that's just me.  BTW aren't you the one that uses "F..k You on a regular basis?
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2003, 04:17:00 PM »
The thing about the source is, its just more propaganda.
Not that I don't think the people who have written for it don't mean what they say - I'm sure they do - its just that I think they are well programmed.
As for the employee who so loves the kids (I haven't read the story, but take you word for it)
I have always said their are good people with wwasp - but they have a despicable employer.
And naturally, I myself would tend to look with skepticism, upon anyone who is paraded in the source.
KZ
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2003, 09:46:00 PM »
KZ- You think they're well programmed or you KNOW they are?  Without having the experience - seminars, support groups, etc., what are you basing that statement on?  You have no credibility, right?  You promote a god/christian based program, right?  Maybe you are no better than PURE in your recruitment tactics?  All questions - not statements.   :wink:
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2003, 12:05:00 PM »
Recruitment tactics?
Where have I recruited for anyone or anything?
No fair going to links were I have explained my relationship with ALA or STH, in response to questions like yours here.
All I have done there is reply and explain.
I have not at any time recruited.

No better than PURE?
Without getting into wether PURE is better or worse than other such business', I am in no way comparable.
I am not any kind of business. I'm just me and I'm a presently unemployed housewife.
If your confused about how I'm connected to ALA or STH, please go back and review what?s been written, for the sake of time and space,I don't want to go over it all once more here.
Or, if you want to, write me, or call even, I'd be happy to talk with you.

As for the seminars, I Think I Know.
This is the case when a person expresses an opinion.
I hadn't tried to state it as fact - so why do you ask?
I base my firm opinion on what I experienced on the BBS; on what I have learned about LGAT seminars; and on the near hysteria that results when the seminar mind set is questioned.

You seem to think I lack credibility. Others have said I lack credibility. Naturally, I dispute that. In fact, I know for sure and certain, I'm credible.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2003, 01:23:00 PM »
You seem to think I lack credibility. Others have said I lack credibility. Naturally, I dispute that. In fact, I know for sure and certain, I'm credible.

Anon - it's not important who you are - but if one person says you're not credible, that's not really important, but if several say you are, it's time to really take a look at that.  :wink:

P.S. - what does this all have to do with the Source magazine??
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2003, 01:40:00 PM »
"I base my firm opinion on what I experienced on the BBS; on what I have learned about LGAT seminars; and on the near hysteria that results when the seminar mind set is questioned. "

Anon - what IS a seminar mindset?  There is NO mindset!  That would be defeating the whole purpose of personal growth, which is what the seminars are about. If you're Karen Z, aren't you the one that thinks that sharing a painful experience is bad?  Sharing a painful experience is the beginning of getting past it and healing. What's the point in living with it in silence being afraid to deal with it and let it go?
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2003, 06:02:00 PM »
Firstly - yes this is me responding.
KZ is me.

Now, someone asks:
P.S. - what does this all have to do with the Source magazine??

Not a thing. I was just answering a Q.
It seems to be thought that my opinion about the sorce is irrelevant b/c some folks doubt my credibility.
What one has to do with the other, I don't know; as it doesn?t seem likely I or anyone would lie concerning what they think about the sorce.

And anon states: if one person says you're not credible, that's not really important, but if several say you are, it's time to really take a look at that.

I know I am credible. I know I take pains not to exaggerate or drop data. I know when I have misunderstood something and so made incorrect statements - I am careful to say so and explain the misunderstanding.
No way can others know this with the level of certainty I have. When people who know nothing about me what so ever, get on public boards and proclaim me not credible - I would say they are speaking out of their ignorance, and so not worth my, or anyone's, consideration.
Some, who don't understand the history, or relationships involved, might believe what is said - but again, they are basing their opinion on faulty information. Consider the source, as they  say.
You infer that many have cast doubt on my honesty and or credibility; I would point out, who these people are is in question, as most are anons, And so any number of them may be the same person. Even those who give names may be any one or all of the anons - its impossible to say. So, I tend to not be very concerned about the need to take a look at anything they judge me on.

And an anon says: If you're Karen Z, aren't you the one that thinks that sharing a painful experience is bad?
I am KarenZ - but no - I never said that. Go back and read carefully the post were you got this misimpression
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2003, 06:27:00 PM »
Curious if the Source prints the NY Times articles or the other reports? Do they try to justify them?
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2003, 07:30:00 PM »
I've read the magazine back several issues, and no, there is no mention of any of this.  I went to the main http://www.wwasps.com site and clicked on The Source and it brings up all past issues - at least back 3 years.

Everything is an interpretation as far as what I think, what you think, or what anyone thinks.  I do see that their rebuttal site was needed considering all of the stuff out there.  It just give a different view from families that have actually been involved in their program and have had good experiences.
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