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Ken Huey asked to respond.
« on: September 15, 2009, 11:15:52 AM »
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Ken Huey of CALO stated "Theme 2—Why Positive Control Systems and why do holds at all? Response to theme 2--Positive Control Systems uses bent wrist controls if a situation escalates to the extent that a hold is needed. We tried numerous other de-escalation systems before deciding permanently on PCS. We have administration trained in MANDT, CALM, NCI, and one other private facility system that is not publicly available. We moved to PCS because it was nationally certified and recognized, it could be initiated by one staff member in a pinch at the outset (a second staff joins the first staff), it was less traumatizing for our population, and it had a much better track record than other systems. Compared to other de-escalation systems, the statistics bear out that PCS is a much safer intervention. Injuries per hold were much better with PCS. As for the re-traumatization issue, we were not impressed with systems that called for 3 or 4 staff to restrain a kid. Chest compressions can become a problem and just the sheer number of staff involved is frightening. We saw flashbacks with other systems that we do not see with PCS. Our holds are done for safety. When a teen is a threat to self or others, we de-escalate first and then progress to a hold if necessary. The holds are all documented and are now debriefed with the CEO for training. If you know of a de-escalation system that is superior to PCS I would be very glad to know of it. I mean that sincerely."

1.  You used three de-escalation systems before you switched tp PCS [Positive Control Systems].  PCS, a de-escalation system that utilizes bent wrist control methods with sub variations, causes compliance through pain.   Please answer the following questions.

a.  You stated "one other private facility system that is not publicly available."  What private facility system are you referring to?
b.  Do staff call a supervisor as a proactive measure to prevent the restraint?
c.  What is the maximum time allowed per MO law a child can be in a physical restraint for?
d.  What information is included in physical restraint reports?
e.  Who writes physical restraint reports?
f.  CALO is a secure facility.  There are supervision issues amongst your staff if students are escaping.  How do you plan on rectifying these supervision issues?
g.  You stated "Injuries per hold were much better with PCS."  What injuries are you referring to?
h.  Are children at CALO allowed to discuss physical restraints with their parents via. telephone?
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Re: Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2009, 04:24:19 PM »
Ken Huey will avoid "CALO is a secure facility. There are supervision issues amongst your staff if students are escaping. How do you plan on rectifying these supervision issues?" like the plague.
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Re: Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2009, 06:17:50 PM »
f.  CALO is a secure facility.  There are supervision issues amongst your staff if students are escaping.  How do you plan on rectifying these supervision issues?

You mean CALO is a private gulag.
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Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 07:16:08 PM »
Your definition of a gulag is incorrect.

gu·lag also Gu·lag (gläg) n.

1. A network of forced labor camps in the former Soviet Union.
2. A forced labor camp or prison especially for political dissidents.
3. A place or situation of great suffering and hardship, likened to the atmosphere in a prison system or a forced labor camp.
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Re: Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2009, 08:03:36 PM »
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Your definition of a gulag is incorrect.

gu·lag also Gu·lag (gläg) n.

1. A network of forced labor camps in the former Soviet Union.
2. A forced labor camp or prison especially for political dissidents.
3. A place or situation of great suffering and hardship, likened to the atmosphere in a prison system or a forced labor camp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy
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Re: Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2009, 08:11:22 PM »
•informer: one (Michael Crawford) who reveals information to Ken Huey
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Re: Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2009, 08:16:43 PM »
Quote from: "Informer"
•informer: one (Michael Crawford) who reveals information to Ken Huey
You can believe what you like but I would have no motive to do that.
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Re: Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2009, 08:18:58 PM »
Ain't nobody trying to keep anything from Ken Huey. We're all trying to get some info to him and, whether he absorbs it or not, to get info out about him.
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Re: Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2009, 08:24:45 PM »
Quote from: "Informer"
•informer: one (Michael Crawford) who reveals information to Ken Huey
All of a sudden anybody who talks to the outsider/enemy is an enemy himself, or at least a spy.  This is paranoia and group-think at it's best, folks.  Haven't heard such stunning reasoning since the program.
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Re: Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2009, 08:36:13 PM »
There were many people who called Ken Huey nasty names.  I don't recall Psy or Ginger commenting on those comments.  When someone makes a negative remark about Psy (Michael Crawford) people (Ginger) defend him.
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Re: Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2009, 08:42:20 PM »
Quote from: "Oh boy."
There were many people who called Ken Huey nasty names.  I don't recall Psy or Ginger commenting on those comments.

So we don't defend Ken?  What's your point?

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When someone makes a negative remark about Psy (Michael Crawford) people (Ginger) defend him.

Yes.  It's a conspiracy at Fornits highest levels.  What exactly that conspiracy is I've yet to discover.
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Re: Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2009, 10:47:35 PM »
Reminds me of that book titled, "Escape From Colditz".
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Re: Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2009, 11:21:41 PM »
Guys,

CALO is not a secure facility, nor are they a gated community.  Believe me I know.  They are specific about that during admission.  What they are not specific is about all the other issues especially with regards to their inability and inexperience specifically directed towards the RAD treatment.  It is a bunch of voodoo science and quackery.  They get away with this because treatment for RAD is not consistantly agreed upon in the psychological community and no other professionals are willing to take a stance on this garbage.  To much theory and not enough practice, or proof for that matter.  Anyone field that comes up with the notion that kids want to sleep with their mothers is quackery.

They do get free labor (and I use that term loosely) from the "students".  I should be more specific though, the parents PAY CALO a hefty sum to "allow" their children the benefit of doing the landscaping, chores and general custodial services for CALO.  This might be construed a forced labor camp with cash entitlements to the directors.

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Re: Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2009, 11:34:17 PM »
Same old shit, different wrapper. CALO hasn't come up with any new twists for sure.
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Re: Ken Huey asked to respond.
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2009, 11:38:04 PM »
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Same old shit, different wrapper. CALO hasn't come up with any new twists for sure.

Is that what your inside sources say Che Gookin?
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