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CAN WWASPS BE REHABILITATED?
« on: August 26, 2003, 09:59:00 PM »
For Former WWASPS Parents and Students:

There are over 2,000 kids currently enrolled in a WWASPS program presumably with the blessing of their parent/guardian.  For these children, what can and should WWASPS be doing to improve the quality of their care and treatment?
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2003, 10:52:00 PM »
There is a lot that needs to be done, but WWASP does not deserve a 20th chance. Its just like asking if a child abuser should be given a 2nd chance to baby-sit your child.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2003, 11:01:00 PM »
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-17 18:00 ]
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2003, 11:07:00 PM »
My input would be that if a child hasn't been with the parents for 6 months, to have a visit.  It probably won't be a good one if they are still in denial about needing to be there, but it's needed.  The one in Utah does this as a therapy visit, but all need to follow suit if they haven't already.  Also to have a half hour phone call after about 3 months. They post photos of the kids after a seminar, but I think the parents would like to see them post a photo each month or so.
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2003, 11:12:00 PM »
Karen - sounds like you want them to be like a traditional boarding school.  You've been reading too many Stephen King novels!  It seems you're calling any parent that reads what you THINK you know are abusive for sending their child to a wwasps program.  Whatever happened to YOU seems to have been magnified by your obsessions.  

It's good PR for your own program anyway.
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2003, 11:16:00 PM »
What harm would there be in approaching WWASPS in good faith with a list of recommendations based on the experience of parents and alumni?

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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2003, 11:33:00 PM »
They receive recommendations.  A couple of the schools used to allow upper level students to give consequences (point loss) to the lower levels.  Now it has to be presented to a staff person and approved.  That's a step in the right direction. I'm learning what they're all about and agree that constructive vs destructive recommendations are welcome.

Question to build on the original request:  What's right as opposed to what's wrong?
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2003, 12:21:00 AM »
I am 100% certain that is the PR people....
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2003, 02:07:00 AM »
What I think they could improve on is better meal service.  Hey, steaks would be good instead of the usual burger, chicken and ribs fare, don't you think?  Unlimited access to the kitchen and allow pop, lots of pop with lots of caffeine.  Mt. Dew!!  Yes!  Come and go as we please so access to drugs is good.  And, dammit, let us date the guys.  THey COULD give us birth control like they do at other schools.  I missed chocolate!
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2003, 03:14:00 AM »
Oh, and MORE seminars, at least being able to staff more.   That was the best part, but we could only staff a few times.  

Who's Karen - she's not talking about wwasp is she??  If so, she's got some hidden agenda for it.  Interesting.
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2003, 04:55:00 AM »
Am I the only one to see the pattern?

A PR looking post gets posted on the board, then ?WWASP Supporters? (probably staffers) following up with positive and supportive comments. Its like they rally up in private emails and then set a time and date when the main topic will be posted then they all try to rush in and back it.

As far as WWASP getting a second (more like 50th) chance? no way! Its not about whether or not they may change their program for the better. Its about their harsh, abusive, and fraudulent past. They have no right to even currently be in business.

Too many teens have been forever damaged in the name of some Utah business men.
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2003, 10:43:00 AM »
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-17 18:03 ]
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2003, 10:49:00 AM »
The harm would be, it would entail the gang to give up some of their money we parents spent  on our children's behalf.

To actually spend money on food, school spplies,
real therapist(not bought and paid for fraudulent Chappuis).Real Doctors.The list is endless.

Its not likely the greedy owners would give up what they think they dont have to.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2003, 11:46:00 AM »
What I'm seeing here are people more concerned with exposing untruths and/or promoting their own agenda instead of getting the ball rolling by making a list of the top 10 issues and providing solutions for resovling the problem(s).  Here's my input for at least one concern raised on this forum.

1.  Diet
Hire a full-time dietician and support staff trained to develop and implement a well-balanced, healthy diet "across the board" (meaning all programs).  Parents whose children have special dietary needs or concerns must be allowed to work with the dietician and staff to ensure their child's needs are being met.  

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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2003, 12:32:00 PM »
Actually, I don't see this as a PR person, because I would think they would identify themselves as such to get the answers they are seeking.  Don't know about who orginally posted this, could be a wwasps supporter, but so what?

I think the one post about the steaks and the dating was sarcastic and just trying to make a point that the food is already healthy.  Check out the public schools with all the carbs/sugar/fat/caffeine they ladle out to our kids everyday. That's unhealthy!  As for the dating, it's unbelieveable that some programs allow this - seems like self-defeating to take the focus off the real issues why the kid is there in the first place.

Karen - it seems like you encourage "surfacy" sharing in group meetings.  That won't get to the root of why these kids are acting out to cover up their pain.
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