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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #60 on: September 07, 2009, 10:00:59 PM »
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Unless you think I'm some sort of mouthpiece for everyone else here, which Im not.

You're silly. You think you get answers to questions that are stupid. I go to all the trouble to point out the fallacy of your logic and it goes right over your head.

Do you view the forum as this single entity where everyone is joined in solidarity to eradicate programs under the name of the fornits flag?

My response to that is: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

What fucking world do you live in?

This is what people call a forum. It is a place on the internet (i.e. a series of tubes) where folks, bots, and mudkips of all opinions and stripes come to troll each other or just talk shit. Normally it is run by some sort of script or code which allow people to write out their responses and post them so others can read and respond if they feel like it, from the comfort and safety of their own cum-encrusted keyboards. The information is stored in a database on a server which is stored on a satellite orbiting a planet whose identity has yet to be disclosed.

Forums *can* do a few things, however.

1. Create butthurt
2. Force memes
3. Humiliate some idiot who fucked a dog or posted a video of themselves baaawing about Brittney
4. Introduce everyone to people who can stretch their assholes wide enough to hold a lawn jockey
5. Close swimming pools
6. Demonstrate how to fuck up homophones or misplace apostrophes
7. Provide a safe place for furfags, yaoi whores and Internet Tough Guys to revel in their general retardedness behind the safety of anonymity
8. Swing the banhammer
9. ??
10. Profit!

I hope this has helped you understand what a forum is, and will also demonstrate that no forum, anywhere, can do shit about anything. All political activities are strictly extracurricular and optional.


Also, my sandwich was very good.

 :waaaa:
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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #61 on: September 07, 2009, 10:05:09 PM »
96 tears

I'm sorry, I didnt know that you wanted a sandwich, too.
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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #62 on: September 08, 2009, 12:21:06 AM »
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The typical life cycle for a fornits poster seems to be like this. They find fornits and start remembering way back when they were in a program that sucked. They naturally get angry and realize what happened was wrong. They vent and post about what happened. Then they decide to 'do something about it'. They try for a little while and nothing happens. Then they disappear, never to be heard from again.
There' s a long list of wannabe activists who have made there way through here, making grandiose claims about their intentions and what they will do to stop programs. Usually the more grand the claims the quicker they seem to vanish. I don't mean to harp on survivors only, probably more of these types of people are just regular people who never went to a program and are just outraged by a news article they read or something, or a family member of a survivor.

Why does this happen so much? Do they get disillusioned with fornits? Do they realize their efforts are fruitless?
Why is it that every attempt to organize an anti-program movement, in any way, has resulted in complete and utter failure?


it is true, but not in my case.
Fornits was instrumental in helping expose hidden lake academy, which eventually led to a lawsuit, bankruptcy, and general turmoil and hardship for the school's proprietors and administrators. There were a few posters who have been coming to fornits since the day they left hidden lake, and remained true to the mission until they saw that the school was on it's deathbed [5 years in some cases].    


but hidden lake is a special case, and what you said is pretty true for most other schools. hidden lake, in the headmaster's words, was "the harvard of therapeutic boarding schools". they never delivered on their promises, yet charged insane amounts of money. it was like a candy-coated rotten egg. they tried to make things look nice on the surface, but on the inside the place was an ugly hellhole run by truly soulless people. Because of the high tuition, usually only the really rich kids attended, with really rich parents that had resources. rich kids are spoiled kids, they like to complain alot. poor kids are used to being shat on so they take it in stride. but rich kids are a different breed. you get them angry, you'll never hear the end of it. that was hidden lake's problem, their formula for long term financial success was waay off. if you want to survive, you have to prey on the ignorant middle-class, not the upper class.
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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2009, 12:23:00 AM »
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if you want to survive, you have to prey on the ignorant middle-class, not the upper class.
Tell that to Scientology.  Truth is everybody's a potential mark.
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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #64 on: September 08, 2009, 02:12:29 AM »
scientology is an international cult with billions of dollars in assets and hundreds of thousands of followers, along with very high-profile celebrity figureheads. they have a support system and heirarchy that rivals many corporations. they can prey on the rich because they are equipped to do so.

Hidden lake was a small business which is most definitely not equipped to deal with the demands of the upper-class clientele it desired.

comparing the two is like comparing your local computer repair shop to Microsoft.
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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2009, 03:55:31 PM »
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The typical life cycle for a fornits poster seems to be like this. They find fornits and start remembering way back when they were in a program that sucked. They naturally get angry and realize what happened was wrong. They vent and post about what happened. Then they decide to 'do something about it'. They try for a little while and nothing happens. Then they disappear, never to be heard from again.
There' s a long list of wannabe activists who have made there way through here, making grandiose claims about their intentions and what they will do to stop programs. Usually the more grand the claims the quicker they seem to vanish. I don't mean to harp on survivors only, probably more of these types of people are just regular people who never went to a program and are just outraged by a news article they read or something, or a family member of a survivor.

Why does this happen so much? Do they get disillusioned with fornits? Do they realize their efforts are fruitless?
Why is it that every attempt to organize an anti-program movement, in any way, has resulted in complete and utter failure?


it is true, but not in my case.
Fornits was instrumental in helping expose hidden lake academy, which eventually led to a lawsuit, bankruptcy, and general turmoil and hardship for the school's proprietors and administrators. There were a few posters who have been coming to fornits since the day they left hidden lake, and remained true to the mission until they saw that the school was on it's deathbed [5 years in some cases].    


but hidden lake is a special case, and what you said is pretty true for most other schools. hidden lake, in the headmaster's words, was "the harvard of therapeutic boarding schools". they never delivered on their promises, yet charged insane amounts of money. it was like a candy-coated rotten egg. they tried to make things look nice on the surface, but on the inside the place was an ugly hellhole run by truly soulless people. Because of the high tuition, usually only the really rich kids attended, with really rich parents that had resources. rich kids are spoiled kids, they like to complain alot. poor kids are used to being shat on so they take it in stride. but rich kids are a different breed. you get them angry, you'll never hear the end of it. that was hidden lake's problem, their formula for long term financial success was waay off. if you want to survive, you have to prey on the ignorant middle-class, not the upper class.

LoL@ spoiled rich kids taking down programs. You sure come up with creative ways to pat yourselves on the back here at fornits, when all you really are is complainers and quitters.
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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2009, 04:04:08 PM »
really? i was a staff. I'm speaking out of personal observation from both inside and outside confines of the program. The students were rich kids, and the students are the ones primarily responsible for the damage done. Rich kids like to be heard. they go from luxury to shit, so they have something to complain about. poor kids go from shit to slightly shittier, so they have little complain about. Rich kids have rich parents who have money to pay to sic lawyers on people that wrong them. it's simple logic, and the facts are well-established. Without the students, parents would not have been involved. without parents, the lawyers would not have been involved. without the students information, inter-parent communication, and the lawyers, the enrollment would not have gone down to the current levels (about 10 kids, in a school that used to have 200).

complainers and quitters are everywhere. A group's effectiveness is not determined by the people who quit, it's determined by the people who stay and finish the job. You dont need a hundred lazy rich kids typing out one post a month, all you need is half a dozen dedicated individuals, which is what there was on the HLA board.
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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #67 on: September 08, 2009, 04:12:43 PM »
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really? i was a staff. I'm speaking out of personal observation from both inside and outside confines of the program. The students were rich kids, and the students are the ones primarily responsible for the damage done. Rich kids like to be heard. they go from luxury to shit, so they have something to complain about. poor kids go from shit to slightly shittier, so they have little complain about. Rich kids have rich parents who have money to pay to sic lawyers on people that wrong them. it's simple logic, and the facts are well-established. Without the students, parents would not have been involved. without parents, the lawyers would not have been involved. without the students information, inter-parent communication, and the lawyers, the enrollment would not have gone down to the current levels (about 10 kids, in a school that used to have 200).

complainers and quitters are everywhere. A group's effectiveness is not determined by the people who quit, it's determined by the people who stay and finish the job. You dont need a hundred lazy rich kids typing out one post a month, all you need is half a dozen dedicated individuals, which is what there was on the HLA board.


SHAME ON YOU
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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #68 on: September 08, 2009, 04:23:16 PM »
sorry, i dont believe in shame. shame leads to addictions (accoring to billybob's big tome of addiction "truths"  :roflmao: ). being a pro-program troll and likely program employee or administrator, you know damn well all about shame.
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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #69 on: September 08, 2009, 04:27:24 PM »
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sorry, i dont believe n shame

Only a true sociopath could declare such a thing.
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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #70 on: September 08, 2009, 04:47:25 PM »
shame and remorse are two different feelings.

shame is brought on by society.
remorse is brought on by one's own conscience.

one is relevant, the other is not.
to be a psychopath, you must have no remorse, not shame.

i have no shame for anything. i do have remorse. I do not have any remorse for taking away len buccelatto's money-making potential.
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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #71 on: September 08, 2009, 04:49:54 PM »
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sorry, i dont believe n shame
Only a true sociopath could declare such a thing.
Well... personally, I do think the ability to feel "shame" is a natural part of moral development. However, what is practiced in programs has often absolutely no relation to moral development, and is far more focused on subjugation by whatever means. You could say it actually retards genuine moral development.


"Shame and Blame... kinda like Shake and Bake, 'cept for children."
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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #72 on: September 08, 2009, 04:56:56 PM »
You idiots will use whatever excuse needed to make yourselves feel better. I've never seen such a deluded set of cultees as right here on fornits. The reality is you are worse than the people you claim to be fighting. Worse by far!
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Re: Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?
« Reply #73 on: September 08, 2009, 05:04:59 PM »
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You idiots will use whatever excuse needed to make yourselves feel better. I've never seen such a deluded set of cultees as right here on fornits. The reality is you are worse than the people you claim to be fighting. Worse by far!


Hello from the "PROBLEM SLEEPING" thread!

I see you are making your rounds.


Tell me something, truthfully. Do you by any chance look like Millhouse?
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