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Re: CALO Escape?
« Reply #75 on: September 23, 2009, 02:54:37 PM »
you keep talking a lot of shit CG. All about everyone else here and the action your taking is really just a self-serving attempt to recoup your fical. losses and doesn't have a damn thing to do with calo exploiting kids in their care. You seem to care more about pecking at others and will therefeore receive the same in kind.
I'm so sorry for your kid. I think you're a total shit
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« Reply #76 on: September 23, 2009, 03:36:49 PM »
Acutally, I'm sorry to.  I'm sorry for the children who feel they must act this way.  I'm sorry for the real prents trying to help and I feel sorry for those pretenting to help such as CALO.   CALO is nothing short of predatory.

Parents sought CALO out to help these kids and they did nothing, even made the situation worse.

As far as recouping the cash.  In an adult world that is what is required by law.  Are you suggesting or would you rather it be setted another way?  I'm sure somehthing can be arranged if that is what you prefer.   This is what happens when you promise one thing and deliver another Ken.  I've kept my word but you haven't.

As far are caring for the child, we should recoup the cash, slap you in the face with it and use it to seek help elsewhere, REAL help.  Because we all know what evil bastards and shitbags you are.

Shame on us for believing CALO, we will never make that mistake again.  CALO is also going to pay for it's mistakes.

CG
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Re: CALO Escape?
« Reply #77 on: September 23, 2009, 03:51:59 PM »
:rofl:  :roflmao:  :rofl:  :roflmao:  :feedtrolls:  :feedtrolls:  :feedtrolls:  :feedtrolls:  :spam:

Acttually on the troll-o-meter, not too bad; he has gotten a few pretty excited.

If you are not a troll then you are reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally slow on the uptake if you have not figured out by now that you are not going to find the parents you profess to want to find here.  Um, you keep doing the same thing expecting a different result :wall: ; some would call that insanity.  

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Re: CALO Escape?
« Reply #78 on: September 23, 2009, 06:03:43 PM »
I find this absolutely fascinating. I was never expecting an actual three-way hatefight. I have honestly never seen anything like this. She parrots the standard programmie bullshit- "your own behavior" without due process, "accountability" (oh god, how many times THAT word's been misused..), the whole nine yards- and then turns around and bitchslaps CALO.

I am awed. Absolutely, completely, awed. It's like watching an experienced burglar and a member of the Mafia beat the shit out of each other for being thieves.

There was discussion once about having a program that's more like a resort than what we fight here; that parents would be deluded into believing their children would have their spirits broken while staff + students were laughing it up together in reality. Such an idea never bore fruit. There was also some half-joking that parents would actually sue because their children weren't being abused and God damn it, that was what they PAID for.

Now we see that this is ACTUALLY WHAT HAPPENS, when there's even an APPEARANCE that the abuse might be less than sufficient.

Ken Huey. You now have a level of respect I seldom afford programmies (which is any). I could never have imagined that you could be in such diametric opposition to a woman who would normally be part of your clientele.

Curious George. You are in a class of monsters seldom seen on this forum. Your concepts of child rearing LEAD DIRECTLY TO the behaviors you are ostensibly trying to prevent. If you are an actual living, breathing human, kill yourself and hope Satan has mercy. If you're actually fictional, your author gets an 11/10 for Grade Fucking A Quality and I'd love to share a beer with him.
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Re: CALO Escape?
« Reply #79 on: September 23, 2009, 06:56:51 PM »
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We have spent 85% of our time on the RAD kids and the remaining on the natural children. And what are we doing to the other children that only get the 15%.

If your natural children hadn't had the RAD kids as shielding against your "care", they'd be a lot worse off.
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Re: CALO Escape?
« Reply #80 on: September 23, 2009, 07:26:01 PM »
Quote from: "Curious George"
Just don't blame the ones who tried to help.  When you are 18 and continue to act the way you have, you can look forward to a life spent in jail, this is not my opinion this is simply a fact.  A judge won't care your parents were assholes.  So grow up become real men and women and don't continue the cycle that you are a part of.  Learn from it and take some damn action like I am instead of just complaining about it all the time.

CG

I can understand how it would look like we have some grudge against parents, and maybe some on here do, but I can tell you that is simply not the case with me. My mother and I have a pretty good relationship and I happen to admire her for all the hard work she put into raising me. I am also no longer a teen, I am actually well on my way to 30, I am certainly not in jail or a drug user and I have quite a fulfilling career and even more purposeful hobbies... However I was once defined as an out of control teen, defiant, rebellious and definitely a bit detached from my parents. But that doesn't mean I had some disorder I overcame, all that was, was a healthy distrust of authority. I just wanted to be an adult, albeit too early but I believe my behavior was not out of control, just not appropriate for my age. All that fell into place as I became of age, it seems like even though my decisions caused turmoil in my teens, those lessons I learned led me to become the responsible adult I am today.

Since your new I'll give you some semblance of the benefit of the doubt, you may be confused or maybe a little crazy but I'd advise you to take a step back and try to understand this situation from a different angle. Its obvious you are a person who values respect and holds your family in high priority, possibly a bit strict when it comes to parenting, but behind your draconian methods there is love, and genuine concern for your child's future. I can guess that you have a certain way of dealing with misbehavior and that is usually no tolerance, and appropriate consequences.

This kind of parenting style is common, and in most cases considered effective, but something you need to understand is that not ALL children respond well to this kind of authoritarian behavior. In some cases it only fuels the flames, and can create serious issues for a child with a rebellious personality. You need to realize that your style of parenting might be exactly what is pushing your children away from you, especially those who have a pre-disposition to having a lack of trust for authority figures. You cant assume just because you are the adult that your children wont question your logic, the reality is, your human and they have every right to question your judgment.

You see, kids who have developed problems with authority just want to be in control of their own lives, make their own decisions and be treated with respect. That's really not too much to ask in the adult world but since this person is a minor, often times those demands are overlooked in a parents desperation to protect their child.
You arent expected to be your child's best friend and let them run around like wild men, you just need to learn how to communicate. Communication is different for every individual relationship, don't assume that if one tactic works with one kid it should automatically work for the others as well. You have to cultivate a personal repore with your child which includes what consequences are effective and which punishments may exacerbate the issue and entice more acting out behavior.

well like I said, I'm not here to attack you, and I would advise taking some of the things people say here with a grain of salt but that doesn't mean that you don't have any room to take a second glance at your decisions and your life and make some re-corrections. It doesn't matter how old you are you never stop learning so try to be open to exploring new avenues of working these things out with your children. Sometimes just making the effort to meet them half way makes all the difference.
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« Reply #81 on: September 23, 2009, 07:43:29 PM »
The best of quotes of the curious George troll
   
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RAD kids are professional manipulators and liars and CALO encourages the kids to be in control in these circumstances.  This just adds to the problems.


Quote from: "Curious George"
RAD kids doing the above should never be in control of their parents.  If the parents are "abusers" then fine.  However, for the "normal" parent who isn't an abuser, then the kids should never be allowed to choose to ignore the ones holding them accountable for their actions.  What will happen if this type of Kid hits the streets at 18?  Then they will really learn that society or the police don't care about them at all.  We are the only ones who truly care.  The rest of the world will let them die in a gutter.  Just ask CALO if they have helped anyone once the money for their tuition stops.  Once the money stops, the trust of care stops and then we know what is what.


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CALO does not hold kids accountable, they take the "punishment" out of relationships...what ever that means.  That is the doctor spock treatment, it didn't work 30 years ago and it doesn't work now.  After all, aren't all his kids in jail?  At least that is what I heard.


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Also I would like Ken to define for us what an abuser is....and the diffence between discipline and punishment...is it normal discipline, a boot in the ass, yelling, in-your face accountability, or actual real life consequences for certain actions????????   Which is it Ken???

After all, doesn't a football, wrestling or hockey coach do that????  Then again Ken seems to be the home-economics type.

Quote from: "Curious George"
Che,

I agree.  I don't think RAD is legitimate either.  Whether this is RAD, bi-polar, ADHD or green eggs and ham, I can't tell you.  I agree that it's a label for something no one really understands at this moment in time.  What we do know is the behaviors are very similar, almost identical.  I know of families with "RAD" kids who are now adults and their behavior has not changed.  Some are currently serving 30 years for molesting their own children.  So the abuse goes on, lives are destroyed and no-one is accountable.  Even this person will get out of jail, probably in the next 5 years and begin the process again.


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As always, when pushed and ultimately cornered, the "professionals" then turn on the parents, start pointing fingers and blame them.  Maybe it's true for abusive parents, but what about the ones that don't abuse the children....they get blamed as well.  So CALO goes on with their happy lives, all the time being part of the problem and laughing all the way to the bank.

CG
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As far are caring for the child, we should recoup the cash, slap you in the face with it and use it to seek help elsewhere, REAL help.  Because we all know what evil bastards and shitbags you are.

Shame on us for believing CALO, we will never make that mistake again.  CALO is also going to pay for it's mistakes.

CG
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I am seeking out parents and children who have direct experience with CALO who can truly expose them for what they are and hope it doesn't happen again.


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The rest of you seem like kids that do hate their parents or have been in these programs but have not learned a damn thing that your parents were trying to teach you before you got placed there.
 

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Quite simply, it was the bad behavior that got you there.  So how are your ramblings going to help from someone else getting put into CALO.  Difference between you and me boys.  What are you doing?  Because I wasn't the one who put my child in there, you got that from now on?


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For those "real" parents that have tried everything to help these kids, we are rewarded by exactly what you and the rest of the so called professionals do.  You blame the parents.  Where is your accountability?


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It's easy to blame the fact you didn't get your wheaties or you weren't breast fed or your older sister got all the attention, isn't it.  When push comes to shove, it's all an excuse.


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There has been alot tougher people in history that have overcome much more worse situations than yours.


In my household, my childrent are my life.  Adopted and/or RAD children have been loved and treated equally, even more than the biological children.  We have spent 85% of our time on the RAD kids and the remaining on the natural children.  And what are we doing to the other children that only get the 15%.  What new disorder is watiting to be named for them by the "professionals"

So if RAD kids have most of our attention, treated equally well or better, have been made part of the family, why do they continue to hurt the others.  
Well here's the answer,  75% of RAD starts off in the womb and for the 1st 3 years of life.  By the time they come to us.  75% of the damage is already done.  These kids hurt and they don't know why and they want others to feel their pain.

So for all you litte hate mongers...it is not our fault your parents were junkies or didn't give you the nurturing necessary for babies to bond to and trust their parents.  We are the ones trying to help you.


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After all, I don't do drugs, my natural childrent don't do drugs but the RAD ones do.  All kinds too.
I don't molest children, but the RAD kids do.  The natural ones don't

Quote from: "Curious George"
I'm not out breaking the law, skipping school, scarring my body, destroying other peoples property and lieing like it's no tomorrow.  No judgments here "Guest" it's a fact.

I care for others, yet the RAD cares for only what they want.  Immediate gratification.

It's your actions that got you landed in places like CALO.  If your parents are as bad as you say, why aren't they in jail.  If you've learned this from them as you claim then they should be in jail, along with the ones that perpetuate this lie, meaning CALO.

I'll bet your parents warned you constantly that this was going to happen, but guess what, you didn't listen and you didn't care.  Well here it is.  I don't like CALO as much as you.  I certainly don't like the asshole parents that may have abused you, I down right detest the junkie, no good parents that abandons their child.
Quote from: "Curious George"
Just don't blame the ones who tried to help.  When you are 18 and continue to act the way you have, you can look forward to a life spent in jail, this is not my opinion this is simply a fact.  A judge won't care your parents were assholes.  So grow up become real men and women and don't continue the cycle that you are a part of.  Learn from it and take some damn action like I am instead of just complaining about it all the time.

CG
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Re: CALO Escape?
« Reply #82 on: September 23, 2009, 08:08:14 PM »
I agree with just about 100% of what you have to say and I am not in unyeilding individual.  Yes I am strict, but I am also fair.

I am very happy things have worked out for you and I'm very happy that you have a fulfilling life and I appreciate your comments.

I have also tried all of your recommendations and the recommendations of the professionals.  While I'm new to these forums, I'm not new to these issues.  This is not news to me, I have been aware and put into practice all the things you mentioned and quite frankly it's the same old stuff CALO would say.  I feel now that the change in consistancy in parenting suggested by CALO and other professionals probably have caused more problems.

Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing has worked.  I have adjusted in ways and changed behaviors based on professional recommendations more than I care to explain all in an effort to connect with this child.  AND I have not given up, just tired of the professionals' promises of snake oil cures at huge costs to my family and the impact on my other children during the process.

I also understand kids want to be treated with respect and can and do challenge authority.  I have no problems with this.  However when challenging the parents authority will lead to someone getting hurt, killed or somone OD'ing, I draw the line.  It's every parents responsibility to stop this behavior, no pauses, no explanations, it simply has to end now, no questions asked.  In some states there are laws holding parents responsible for what their child does.

I'm interested in any further advice and possible solutions you can provide.  So far the entire professional industry has been wrong.  I'm not claiming to be right, but if normal parenting didn't work, revised parenting didn't work (just about every type we were made aware of) and the professional therapy didn't work, what's left for the child?  Well at 18, jail or death happens next, and then there is no more room to connect.

still interested though in your thoughts.  Maybe you've experienced something that can help us, and that is REALLY what I'm after.  CALO garbage is secondary.  The only thing I haven't tried, is to completely let go, but that's illegal in my state and immoral for me.   If the child chooses not to have contact after 18, then that is their right and I will respect that.  

CG
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Curious George is a troll
« Reply #83 on: September 23, 2009, 08:09:49 PM »
The best of quotes of the curious George troll
continued
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Does anyone have any real, reliable information regarding the "abuse" at CALO?
Note that  whenever CG refers to abuse related to calo it is always in parentheses.


Quote from: "Curious George"
Is anyone willing to reply?
Looking for some real answers to CALO issues
Have direct personal knowledge of events.
Will discuss.
Quote from: "Curious George"
Am also interested in whether a lawsuit or the possibility of a class action lawsuit is, has or will be filed by the parents.

Quote from: "Curious George"
Just so we are clear, I'm not interested in all the bullshit and childish remarks I see on some of these replies.  I am a concerned family member that is seeking some real answers.
what about you accountability CG? What about your bullshit replies and childish remarks?
Quote from: "Curious George"
Guest,

Inevitable, meaning you are full of shit?

I'll put money down I outlast you.  Never backed down from a good fight when it comes to people I care about.  I'm taking this as far as it goes.

Go back to your crib and suck your thumb.

CG
Nice language for a serious minded “concerned parent”
And…
Quote from: "Curious George"
To WTF:

Your a friggin genious...you hit the nail on the head with ONE of your scenario's.

You can try and figure out which one makes you the happiest Einstien.

Would pick up if I could, would love to bust out if didn't have other obligations to worry about compounded by the fact it's currently illegal in the state of MO.

Don't need to go to jail by following your shit bag, moronic, juvinile advice.  Like I said, either help or get out of the way.  Certain people with brains would have already figured that out...not just the jagbags that shoot their mouth off without thinking.

CG
Quote from: "Curious George"
Hey Jesus

Go fuck yourself.  Why don't you get nailed to the cross again.  I am no bullshit artist.  Will prove it.  The only thing you sniff is the ass crack off a dead goat.

Stop pissing serious people off.  It's bad for your health.

CG
Quote from: "Curious George"
Guest,

Let's.  Is there a parent forum or do you know of another way to get in contact with other concerned parents?

CG
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Re: CALO Escape?
« Reply #84 on: September 23, 2009, 08:10:53 PM »
Quote from: "Curious George"
I agree with just about 100% of what you have to say and I am not in unyeilding individual.  Yes I am strict, but I am also fair.

I am very happy things have worked out for you and I'm very happy that you have a fulfilling life and I appreciate your comments.

I have also tried all of your recommendations and the recommendations of the professionals.  While I'm new to these forums, I'm not new to these issues.  This is not news to me, I have been aware and put into practice all the things you mentioned and quite frankly it's the same old stuff CALO would say.  I feel now that the change in consistancy in parenting suggested by CALO and other professionals probably have caused more problems.

Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing has worked.  I have adjusted in ways and changed behaviors based on professional recommendations more than I care to explain all in an effort to connect with this child.  AND I have not given up, just tired of the professionals' promises of snake oil cures at huge costs to my family and the impact on my other children during the process.

I also understand kids want to be treated with respect and can and do challenge authority.  I have no problems with this.  However when challenging the parents authority will lead to someone getting hurt, killed or somone OD'ing, I draw the line.  It's every parents responsibility to stop this behavior, no pauses, no explanations, it simply has to end now, no questions asked.  In some states there are laws holding parents responsible for what their child does.

I'm interested in any further advice and possible solutions you can provide.  So far the entire professional industry has been wrong.  I'm not claiming to be right, but if normal parenting didn't work, revised parenting didn't work (just about every type we were made aware of) and the professional therapy didn't work, what's left for the child?  Well at 18, jail or death happens next, and then there is no more room to connect.

still interested though in your thoughts.  Maybe you've experienced something that can help us, and that is REALLY what I'm after.  CALO garbage is secondary.  The only thing I haven't tried, is to completely let go, but that's illegal in my state and immoral for me.   If the child chooses not to have contact after 18, then that is their right and I will respect that.  

CG
Really? Do go on... :seg2:
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« Reply #85 on: September 23, 2009, 08:16:12 PM »
The best of quotes of the curious George troll can be seen in Curious George's post history.
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« Reply #86 on: September 23, 2009, 08:37:22 PM »
The best of quotes of the curious George troll
   
Quote from: "Curious George"
RAD kids are professional manipulators and liars and CALO encourages the kids to be in control in these circumstances.  This just adds to the problems.


Quote from: "Curious George"
RAD kids doing the above should never be in control of their parents.  If the parents are "abusers" then fine.  However, for the "normal" parent who isn't an abuser, then the kids should never be allowed to choose to ignore the ones holding them accountable for their actions.  What will happen if this type of Kid hits the streets at 18?  Then they will really learn that society or the police don't care about them at all.  We are the only ones who truly care.  The rest of the world will let them die in a gutter.  Just ask CALO if they have helped anyone once the money for their tuition stops.  Once the money stops, the trust of care stops and then we know what is what.


Quote from: "Curious George"
CALO does not hold kids accountable, they take the "punishment" out of relationships...what ever that means.  That is the doctor spock treatment, it didn't work 30 years ago and it doesn't work now.  After all, aren't all his kids in jail?  At least that is what I heard.


Quote from: "Curious George"
Also I would like Ken to define for us what an abuser is....and the diffence between discipline and punishment...is it normal discipline, a boot in the ass, yelling, in-your face accountability, or actual real life consequences for certain actions????????   Which is it Ken???

After all, doesn't a football, wrestling or hockey coach do that????  Then again Ken seems to be the home-economics type.

Quote from: "Curious George"
Che,

I agree.  I don't think RAD is legitimate either.  Whether this is RAD, bi-polar, ADHD or green eggs and ham, I can't tell you.  I agree that it's a label for something no one really understands at this moment in time.  What we do know is the behaviors are very similar, almost identical.  I know of families with "RAD" kids who are now adults and their behavior has not changed.  Some are currently serving 30 years for molesting their own children.  So the abuse goes on, lives are destroyed and no-one is accountable.  Even this person will get out of jail, probably in the next 5 years and begin the process again.


Quote from: "Curious George"
As always, when pushed and ultimately cornered, the "professionals" then turn on the parents, start pointing fingers and blame them.  Maybe it's true for abusive parents, but what about the ones that don't abuse the children....they get blamed as well.  So CALO goes on with their happy lives, all the time being part of the problem and laughing all the way to the bank.

CG
Quote from: "Curious George"
As far are caring for the child, we should recoup the cash, slap you in the face with it and use it to seek help elsewhere, REAL help.  Because we all know what evil bastards and shitbags you are.

Shame on us for believing CALO, we will never make that mistake again.  CALO is also going to pay for it's mistakes.

CG
Quote from: "Curious George"
I am seeking out parents and children who have direct experience with CALO who can truly expose them for what they are and hope it doesn't happen again.


Quote from: "Curious George"
The rest of you seem like kids that do hate their parents or have been in these programs but have not learned a damn thing that your parents were trying to teach you before you got placed there.
 

Quote from: "Curious George"
Quite simply, it was the bad behavior that got you there.  So how are your ramblings going to help from someone else getting put into CALO.  Difference between you and me boys.  What are you doing?  Because I wasn't the one who put my child in there, you got that from now on?


Quote from: "Curious George"
For those "real" parents that have tried everything to help these kids, we are rewarded by exactly what you and the rest of the so called professionals do.  You blame the parents.  Where is your accountability?


Quote from: "Curious George"
It's easy to blame the fact you didn't get your wheaties or you weren't breast fed or your older sister got all the attention, isn't it.  When push comes to shove, it's all an excuse.


Quote from: "Curious George"
There has been alot tougher people in history that have overcome much more worse situations than yours.


In my household, my childrent are my life.  Adopted and/or RAD children have been loved and treated equally, even more than the biological children.  We have spent 85% of our time on the RAD kids and the remaining on the natural children.  And what are we doing to the other children that only get the 15%.  What new disorder is watiting to be named for them by the "professionals"

So if RAD kids have most of our attention, treated equally well or better, have been made part of the family, why do they continue to hurt the others.  
Well here's the answer,  75% of RAD starts off in the womb and for the 1st 3 years of life.  By the time they come to us.  75% of the damage is already done.  These kids hurt and they don't know why and they want others to feel their pain.

So for all you litte hate mongers...it is not our fault your parents were junkies or didn't give you the nurturing necessary for babies to bond to and trust their parents.  We are the ones trying to help you.


Quote from: "Curious George"
After all, I don't do drugs, my natural childrent don't do drugs but the RAD ones do.  All kinds too.
I don't molest children, but the RAD kids do. The natural ones don't

Quote from: "Curious George"
I'm not out breaking the law, skipping school, scarring my body, destroying other peoples property and lieing like it's no tomorrow.  No judgments here "Guest" it's a fact.

I care for others, yet the RAD cares for only what they want.  Immediate gratification.

It's your actions that got you landed in places like CALO.  If your parents are as bad as you say, why aren't they in jail.  If you've learned this from them as you claim then they should be in jail, along with the ones that perpetuate this lie, meaning CALO.

I'll bet your parents warned you constantly that this was going to happen, but guess what, you didn't listen and you didn't care.  Well here it is.  I don't like CALO as much as you.  I certainly don't like the asshole parents that may have abused you, I down right detest the junkie, no good parents that abandons their child.
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Just don't blame the ones who tried to help.  When you are 18 and continue to act the way you have, you can look forward to a life spent in jail, this is not my opinion this is simply a fact.  A judge won't care your parents were assholes.  So grow up become real men and women and don't continue the cycle that you are a part of.  Learn from it and take some damn action like I am instead of just complaining about it all the time.

CG
The best of quotes of the curious George troll
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Does anyone have any real, reliable information regarding the "abuse" at CALO?
Note that  whenever CG refers to abuse related to calo it is always in parentheses.


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Is anyone willing to reply?
Looking for some real answers to CALO issues
Have direct personal knowledge of events.
Will discuss.
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Am also interested in whether a lawsuit or the possibility of a class action lawsuit is, has or will be filed by the parents.

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Just so we are clear, I'm not interested in all the bullshit and childish remarks I see on some of these replies.  I am a concerned family member that is seeking some real answers.
what about you accountability CG? What about your bullshit replies and childish remarks?
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Guest,

Inevitable, meaning you are full of shit?

I'll put money down I outlast you.  Never backed down from a good fight when it comes to people I care about.  I'm taking this as far as it goes.

Go back to your crib and suck your thumb.

CG
Nice language for a serious minded “concerned parent”
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To WTF:

Your a friggin genious...you hit the nail on the head with ONE of your scenario's.

You can try and figure out which one makes you the happiest Einstien.

Would pick up if I could, would love to bust out if didn't have other obligations to worry about compounded by the fact it's currently illegal in the state of MO.

Don't need to go to jail by following your shit bag, moronic, juvinile advice.  Like I said, either help or get out of the way.  Certain people with brains would have already figured that out...not just the jagbags that shoot their mouth off without thinking.

CG
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Hey Jesus

Go fuck yourself.  Why don't you get nailed to the cross again.  I am no bullshit artist.  Will prove it.  The only thing you sniff is the ass crack off a dead goat.

Stop pissing serious people off.  It's bad for your health.

CG
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Guest,

Let's.  Is there a parent forum or do you know of another way to get in contact with other concerned parents?

CG
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Yes I am strict, but I am also fair.still interested though in your thoughts.

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Maybe you've experienced something that can help us, and that is REALLY what I'm after.
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CALO garbage is secondary.  The only thing I haven't tried, is to completely let go, but that's illegal in my state and immoral for me.   If the child chooses not to have contact after 18, then that is their right and I will respect that.  CG
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Re: CALO Escape?
« Reply #87 on: September 23, 2009, 08:40:16 PM »
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I agree with just about 100% of what you have to say and I am not in unyeilding individual.  Yes I am strict, but I am also fair.

I am very happy things have worked out for you and I'm very happy that you have a fulfilling life and I appreciate your comments.

I have also tried all of your recommendations and the recommendations of the professionals.  While I'm new to these forums, I'm not new to these issues.  This is not news to me, I have been aware and put into practice all the things you mentioned and quite frankly it's the same old stuff CALO would say.  I feel now that the change in consistancy in parenting suggested by CALO and other professionals probably have caused more problems.

Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing has worked.  I have adjusted in ways and changed behaviors based on professional recommendations more than I care to explain all in an effort to connect with this child.  AND I have not given up, just tired of the professionals' promises of snake oil cures at huge costs to my family and the impact on my other children during the process.

I also understand kids want to be treated with respect and can and do challenge authority.  I have no problems with this.  However when challenging the parents authority will lead to someone getting hurt, killed or somone OD'ing, I draw the line.  It's every parents responsibility to stop this behavior, no pauses, no explanations, it simply has to end now, no questions asked.  In some states there are laws holding parents responsible for what their child does.

I'm interested in any further advice and possible solutions you can provide.  So far the entire professional industry has been wrong.  I'm not claiming to be right, but if normal parenting didn't work, revised parenting didn't work (just about every type we were made aware of) and the professional therapy didn't work, what's left for the child?  Well at 18, jail or death happens next, and then there is no more room to connect.

still interested though in your thoughts.  Maybe you've experienced something that can help us, and that is REALLY what I'm after.  CALO garbage is secondary.  The only thing I haven't tried, is to completely let go, but that's illegal in my state and immoral for me.   If the child chooses not to have contact after 18, then that is their right and I will respect that.  

CG
I'm not sure that there is any magic bullet that'll do the trick. Rather, tweaking the circumstances a little here, a little there, might bring it into a more manageable realm. Probably never within an earshot of ideal, however. I do think kids wounded badly during their early growing years often lash out in anger at some point, not necessarily when the wounds occur, but when they are better able to lash out, lol. And thus you are in the line of fire.

Snake oil cures don't work though, IMO, as you yourself have unfortunately discovered with CALO. There is a whole industry exploiting folk like yourself, promising results, and touting themselves as "experts."
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Re: CALO Escape?
« Reply #88 on: September 23, 2009, 08:46:42 PM »
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Hey Jesus

Go fuck yourself.  Why don't you get nailed to the cross again.  I am no bullshit artist.  Will prove it.  The only thing you sniff is the ass crack off a dead goat.

Stop pissing serious people off.  It's bad for your health.

CG
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Re: CALO Escape?
« Reply #89 on: September 23, 2009, 10:35:34 PM »
If that is the way you talk to "your" child I don't blame  him for not wanting to talk to you.
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