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Prison or TBS?
« on: August 09, 2009, 10:56:27 PM »
Mentally Ill Offenders Strain Juvenile System:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/10/us/10juvenile.html?hp

FRANKLIN FURNACE, Ohio — The teenager in the padded smock sat in his solitary confinement cell here in this state’s most secure juvenile prison and screamed obscenities.


 
Kirk Irwin for The New York Times
The Scioto Juvenile Correctional Facility in Delaware, Ohio, added therapy programs to address inmates’ self-mutilation.
The youth, Donald, a 16-year-old, his eyes glassy from lack of sleep and a daily regimen of mood stabilizers, was serving a minimum of six months for breaking and entering. Although he had received diagnoses for psychiatric illnesses, including bipolar disorder, a judge decided that Donald would get better care in the state correctional system than he could get anywhere in his county.

That was two years ago.

Donald’s confinement has been repeatedly extended because of his violent outbursts. This year he assaulted a guard here at the prison, the Ohio River Valley Juvenile Correctional Facility, and was charged anew, with assault. His fists and forearms are striped with scars where he gouged himself with pencils and the bones of a bird he caught and dismembered.

As cash-starved states slash mental health programs in communities and schools, they are increasingly relying on the juvenile corrections system to handle a generation of young offenders with psychiatric disorders. About two-thirds of the nation’s juvenile inmates — who numbered 92,854 in 2006, down from 107,000 in 1999 — have at least one mental illness, according to surveys of youth prisons, and are more in need of therapy than punishment.

“We’re seeing more and more mentally ill kids who couldn’t find community programs that were intensive enough to treat them,” said Joseph Penn, a child psychiatrist at the Texas Youth Commission. “Jails and juvenile justice facilities are the new asylums.”

At least 32 states cut their community mental health programs by an average of 5 percent this year and plan to double those budget reductions by 2010, according to a recent survey of state mental health offices.

Juvenile prisons have been the caretaker of last resort for troubled children since the 1980s, but mental health experts say the system is in crisis, facing a soaring number of inmates reliant on multiple — and powerful — psychotropic drugs and a shortage of therapists.

In California’s state system, one of the most violent and poorly managed juvenile systems in the country, according to federal investigators, three dozen youth offenders seriously injured themselves or attempted suicide in the last year — a sign, state juvenile justice experts say, of neglect and poor safety protocols.

In Ohio, where Gov. Ted Strickland, a former prison psychologist, approved a 34 percent reduction in community-based mental health services to reduce a budget deficit, Thomas J. Stickrath, the director of the Department of Youth Services, said continuing cuts would swell his youth offender population.

“I’m hearing from a lot of judges saying, ‘I’m sorry I’m sending so-and-so to you, but at least I know that he’ll get the treatment he can’t get in his community,’ ” Mr. Stickrath said.

But youths are often subjected to neglect and violence in juvenile prisons, and studies show that mental illnesses can become worse there.

George, 17, an inmate at Ohio River Valley, detailed his daily cocktail of psychiatric medications, including Abilify and Seroquel. In addition to having bipolar disorder, he is a sex offender and is H.I.V. positive — severe stigmas in prison.

“I be getting punked,” he said, using prison slang to describe how gang youths routinely humiliate him. He blinked, and his leg shook uncontrollably. “They take my food, they hit me, they make me do things.”

Demetrius, 16, another inmate there, said he had received a diagnosis of bipolar disorder. Officials said he has psychotic episodes and attacks other inmates. In an interview in June, he said he was receiving no mental health counseling or medications. Andrea Kruse, a spokeswoman for Mr. Stickrath, did not dispute his contention, but said that since July 1, he has had more than 20 counseling sessions.

According to a Government Accountability Office report, in 2001, families relinquished custody of 9,000 children to juvenile justice systems so they could receive mental health services.

Donald has been in and out of mental health programs since he attacked a schoolteacher at age 5. As he grew older, he became more violent until he was eventually committed to the Department of Youth Services.

“I’ve begged D.Y.S. to get him into a mental facility where they’re trained to deal with people like him,” said his grandmother, who asked not to be identified because of the stigma of having a grandson who is mentally ill. “I don’t think a lockup situation is where he should be, although I don’t think he should be on the street either.”

Lawsuits and federal civil rights investigations in Indiana, Maryland, Ohio and Texas have criticized juvenile corrections systems for failing to meet their obligation to prohibit cruel and unusual punishment of prisoners.

Despite downsizing to about 1,650 juvenile inmates from about 10,000 youth offenders in 1996, California’s state system remains under a 2004 federal mandate to improve conditions, including mental health services — the result of a class-action lawsuit that documented the systematic physical and sexual abuse of wards.

Under a plan to reduce the state juvenile inmate population, many youths who once would have been held by the state are now detained by the Los Angeles County juvenile detention system. Los Angeles County is also under a federal mandate to improve psychiatric services for juvenile inmates, especially at the six camps at its Challenger Memorial Youth Center, which holds most of the county’s medium- and high-risk
offenders and most of its mentally ill ones.

“We were told that the Challenger camps are, paradoxically, the only camps at which staff are authorized to carry O.C. spray,” wrote federal civil rights investigators in a 2008 report to county authorities, referring to oleoresin capsicum, known as pepper spray. “One supervisor told us that he believed that allowing staff to carry and use O.C. spray made sense given the ‘mental health population.’ ”

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Youths at Camp Scott in Los Angeles County, which is under a federal mandate to improve psychiatric services for juveniles.
The investigators also recounted how staff members body slammed unruly juveniles, often breaking their bones.

In May, a reporter toured the Los Angeles County Central Juvenile Hall with Eric Trupin, a consultant hired by the Department of Justice to monitor mental health services in California’s juvenile justice system. Dr. Trupin, a psychologist, said some detainees appeared to be held there for no reason other than that they were mentally ill and the county had no other institution capable of treating them.

One inmate at the county’s juvenile hall, Eric, 18, was given a diagnosis of bipolar disorder and prescribed Risperdal, a powerful antipsychotic, to help him avoid violent flashes of temper.

A public defender who specializes in juvenile mental health issues said Eric had been arrested more than 20 times near his South Los Angeles home. Dr. Trupin worried that if Eric were released and arrested again, he would be charged as an adult and enter the Los Angeles County jail, the nation’s largest residential mental institution, with 1,400 mentally ill inmates.

In the 1960s and ’70s, the increasing availability of antipsychotic medications coincided with a national movement to close public mental hospitals. Many private hospitals barred psychotic patients, including juveniles. By the 1980s, juvenile justice systems had become the primary providers of residential psychiatric care for mentally ill youths.

But as cutbacks have worsened, the debate has intensified over what constitutes adequate mental health care. Often juvenile justice systems have very little to go on when attempting a diagnosis.

“Often Daddy is nowhere to be found, Mommy might be in jail,” said Daniel Connor, a psychiatrist for the Connecticut juvenile corrections system. “The home phone is cut off. The parent speaks another language, so it’s often hard to figure out exactly what’s going on with each kid.”

School records often do not arrive with arrested youths, nor do files often come from other corrections institutions. The lack of information is particularly problematic when psychiatrists try to prescribe medications. Joseph Parks, medical director for the Missouri Department of Mental Health and a national expert on pharmaceutical drug use in corrections facilities, said many juvenile offenders are prescribed multiple psychiatric drugs as they move from mental health clinics to detention halls to juvenile prisons.

A decade ago, it was rare to find juvenile offenders on two psychotropic drugs at once, Dr. Parks said. Now, many take three or four at a time, often for nonprescribed uses like helping the youths sleep.

“If you just give a kid a pill, the prison administration doesn’t have to do anything differently,” he said. “The staff doesn’t have to do anything differently. The guards don’t have to get more training.”

Census studies of child mental health professionals show chronic shortages. A 2006 study estimated that for every 100,000 youths, there were fewer than nine child psychiatrists. Dr. Penn of Texas said the state youth prison system there recently instituted a system of telepsychiatry sessions, conducting videoconferences between mental health professionals and youths being detained hundreds of miles away.

Inadequate mental health services increases recidivism. In a February report on psychiatric services at the Ohio River Valley center, Dr. Cheryl Wills, an independent mental health expert, found that officials were unnecessarily extending incarceration for youths who acted out because of their mental illnesses.

Mr. Stickrath, the director of the Ohio Department of Youth Services, said that one challenge in dealing with large numbers of psychologically ill youths is determining who is “mad versus bad.” He mentioned Donald, whose file he knew by heart.

“He’s been in 130 fights since he’s been with us, and there were no resources in the small county he’s from to deal with him,” Mr. Stickrath said. “Our staff worked to get him in a sophisticated psychiatric residential program, but they said he had to leave because he was attacking staff.”

Mr. Stickrath shook his head. “He just wears you out.”

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Kids like that are the ones who should be sent to TBSs. NOT kids who's parents believe they need to be in a TBS. those public meat warehouses are horrible, and I think having an option such as a TBS in lieu of spending time at one of those places is a very attractive option.
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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2009, 11:19:18 PM »
Kids like that should be sent to neither. A TBS wouldn't help a dead mule let alone one of those kinds of kids. Take it from me that programs and such only exaberate these sorts of issues with those who have psych problems of that sort.
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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2009, 12:10:14 AM »
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His fists and forearms are striped with scars where he gouged himself with pencils and the bones of a bird he caught and dismembered.

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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2009, 12:40:17 AM »
Quote from: "Che Gookin"
Kids like that should be sent to neither. A TBS wouldn't help a dead mule let alone one of those kinds of kids. Take it from me that programs and such only exaberate these sorts of issues with those who have psych problems of that sort.

HA! coming from gookin..... what, no anal fisting or masturbatory references here? no pornography or nazi iconography? i think you've gone a little tame.....

che, i've seen alot of idiots in my life but you top em' all. it's called a lesser of two evils. no shit programs are bad. but juvie, the way it is now, is 100x worse. read the first paragraph: judge sentences a kid to juvie for 6 months because he feels thats the only option available. kid ends up staying over two years.



che, i know you want to be all macho revolutionary. i understand your need for attention through toilet humor. I know how you feel about peer acceptance, and your desire to be the abbie hoffman of the TBS industry. but please, take your one ounce brain somewhere else. your going to ruin everything fornits has been trying to do over the past few years. thewho is nothing compared to you. he's a nemesis, he's "the bad guy" and his stupidity is making his side look bad. YOU are making US look bad through your stupidity. every post you make diminishes fornit's credibility quotient just a tad bit. eventually we'll have no credibility, because all people will see are brainless "we're leftists because it's COOL! YAY! LETS ARGUE WITH EVERYONE ABOUT EVERYTHING THEN POST SOME NAZI PR0N! CHE IS L337 G0D" brats with nothing better to do than take out their childish anger onto an abstract entity.
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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2009, 12:59:24 AM »
Well howdy exit plan, you going on one of your "ALL PARENTS/STAFF" rants again?

dull. come up with some new material. Likewise, support your assertations that a TBS is somehow better than a juvie. I'm failing to see how a violent and aggressive person is going to benefit from either.
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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2009, 02:05:59 PM »
If those kids were in a WWASP program, they would immediately be sent to Tranquility Bay.  I would assume that in any other program, they'd probably also be transferred to an awful program that's super harsh liek TB or just get sent to prison anyways.  I mean, really, I doubt many programs are going to accept someone who could potentially kill or severely injure the other students (hello liabilities and less money made every  month).  Programs are built mostly for people who need little or no treatment (i.e. "headed down the wrong path"), not the psychotic, deranged, or violent.

I'd take juvie over Tranquility Bay any day; I probably would take it over Casa by the Sea or Cross Creek as well.
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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2009, 03:40:48 PM »
Now what kind of program do you think a kid like this would end up being placed in if not for Juvie?

My bet is on a program like Three Springs, since they contract out with all sorts of juvenile justice systems.  Che, you have some experience with that program.  Seems like this is a case of being stuck between a rock and a hard place.

There may be programs that would be the lesser of two evils between itself and juvie.  But, no those programs do tend to get kids who should have never been sent away in the first place.  For this kid, any program he would get sent to, or eventually get placed in, would be no better than juvie.  I'm sure Matthew Israel would take him open arms.
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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2009, 09:38:24 PM »
Che gookin likes to make butt chocolate compact, like fudge cake rammed with sausage. yes, yes, you do! you like that big hairy man cock up your ass and chingachong cock in your mouth. the only thing che likes more than cock in shphincter and cock and mouth, is two big multicolored cock in his shfincter like icecream cone swirl and one in his mouth.
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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2009, 10:01:40 PM »
rapeisgreat gets anal from a horse

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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2009, 02:49:22 AM »
I hacked your phone and i found this picture:
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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2009, 02:55:28 AM »
Who uses dial up anymore?
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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2009, 02:58:04 AM »
I'm talkin bout yo cell phone fool.
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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2009, 03:01:50 AM »
There's no point in coming up with excuses to try and show people your butt. Admins. already explained to you that the IMGs have to be opted in on and your just blowing smoke up your geriatric ass if you think anyone wants a piece of it.
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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2009, 03:06:49 AM »
oh so your not the jackass who's been posting all the pr0n everywhere? run along and play now...nothing to see here.
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Re: Prison or TBS?
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2009, 03:09:33 AM »
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