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What politicians were paid off?
« on: August 09, 2009, 02:05:01 AM »
Anyone know which politicians were bribed into generating law enforcement’s tolerance of abduction and imprisonment of young people by Gulags? Anyone know which particular CA and NY politicians were corrupt and complicit in abduction and unlawful imprisonment, in particular?

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Re: What politicians were paid off?
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2009, 01:54:07 PM »
gulianni is a supporter of child rape. that i do know.

the day he took office he ordered cops to take anyone and everyone playing hookey or smoking pot STRAIGHT TO JAIL. no tickets, no warnings, straight to a criminal record. many of these kids had rich parents who had no choice but to send them away when they got in trouble. the kids with poor parents just got worse and turned into gangbangers and criminals completely unafraid of the prospect of jail. he tried to clean up the city, that he did. but he also stratified criminality in NYC. before, everyone broke the rules to a degree - you could walk around smoking blunts on the streets and you were not bothered by the cops. everyone was an amatuer criminal. now, the real amatuers have retreated from criminality but the REAL criminals got more professional.
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Re: What politicians were paid off?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2009, 12:24:58 AM »
Almost all politicians (and people,for that matter) support the involuntary incarceration, imprisonment & treatment (behavior and thought reform) of underage youth. The difference is in how, and where they are placed. Democrats and those leaning to the left, toward government control, prefer that representatives of the state control the troubled teen industry. They want special kiddie courts, kiddie judges, kiddie prisons, and kiddie prison staff, the whole works. They want control over the entire system, top to bottom. From the low level staffers, to the top administrators, from the cook, to the psychiatrists... they all work for the state.

The republicans and those leaning toward the right, and individuality, prefer that families themselves make the decision when, if, and where to place their kid. They prefer to allow a free market of facilities, and let parents choose for themselves where to send their kid, assuming the parent knows better than some judge or some government bureaucrat.

The debate isn't that different than the debate over public education vs. privatized education. The democrats and liberals want state control over it all, uniformity, and all that. The republicans prefer a free market of schools, vouchers, etc. But what you NEVER hear anyone say, from anywhere in the political spectrum is that 'kids should not be educated'. They argue over where, and how to educate the kids, not whether education should happen or not. This situation also applies to the TTI. The politicians will argue about how the system operates, and where to place the 'troubled kids', but in reality it makes little difference to the kids whether they rot in a private, or public prison.
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2009, 06:06:02 AM »
This seems a perfectly accurate portrayal.
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Re: What politicians were paid off?
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2009, 08:06:41 AM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Almost all politicians (and people,for that matter) support the involuntary incarceration, imprisonment & treatment (behavior and thought reform) of underage youth. The difference is in how, and where they are placed. Democrats and those leaning to the left, toward government control, prefer that representatives of the state control the troubled teen industry. They want special kiddie courts, kiddie judges, kiddie prisons, and kiddie prison staff, the whole works. They want control over the entire system, top to bottom. From the low level staffers, to the top administrators, from the cook, to the psychiatrists... they all work for the state.

The republicans and those leaning toward the right, and individuality, prefer that families themselves make the decision when, if, and where to place their kid. They prefer to allow a free market of facilities, and let parents choose for themselves where to send their kid, assuming the parent knows better than some judge or some government bureaucrat.

The debate isn't that different than the debate over public education vs. privatized education. The democrats and liberals want state control over it all, uniformity, and all that. The republicans prefer a free market of schools, vouchers, etc. But what you NEVER hear anyone say, from anywhere in the political spectrum is that 'kids should not be educated'. They argue over where, and how to educate the kids, not whether education should happen or not. This situation also applies to the TTI. The politicians will argue about how the system operates, and where to place the 'troubled kids', but in reality it makes little difference to the kids whether they rot in a private, or public prison.

I love it when someone says so much better than I ever will.  :notworthy:
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Re: Who pays?
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2009, 11:48:45 AM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Democrats and those leaning to the left, toward government control, prefer that representatives of the state control the troubled teen industry. They want special kiddie courts, kiddie judges, kiddie prisons, and kiddie prison staff, the whole works. They want control over the entire system, top to bottom. From the low level staffers, to the top administrators, from the cook, to the psychiatrists... they all work for the state.

The republicans and those leaning toward the right, and individuality, prefer that families themselves make the decision when, if, and where to place their kid. They prefer to allow a free market of facilities, and let parents choose for themselves where to send their kid, assuming the parent knows better than some judge or some government bureaucrat.

Key difference is where the funding comes from. Some folks see this as a problem that society needs to take responsibility for, some see it as the responsibility of the individual families involved.
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Re: What politicians were paid off?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2009, 01:08:52 PM »
Washington State, however, passed a law basically banning the practice and other states and countries (e.g. most of Europe) are program-free.

What characteristics do those politicians have that politicians in, say, Florida don't?
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Re: What politicians were paid off?
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2009, 11:10:38 PM »
Thanks for your help.
Does anyone have any proper names? Who was bribed in particular? Any ideas?
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What politicians were paid off?
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2009, 11:12:27 PM »
His name was Hairy Big Cock.
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Re: What politicians were paid off?
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2009, 11:42:17 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Almost all politicians (and people,for that matter) support the involuntary incarceration, imprisonment & treatment (behavior and thought reform) of underage youth. The difference is in how, and where they are placed. Democrats and those leaning to the left, toward government control, prefer that representatives of the state control the troubled teen industry. They want special kiddie courts, kiddie judges, kiddie prisons, and kiddie prison staff, the whole works. They want control over the entire system, top to bottom. From the low level staffers, to the top administrators, from the cook, to the psychiatrists... they all work for the state.

The republicans and those leaning toward the right, and individuality, prefer that families themselves make the decision when, if, and where to place their kid. They prefer to allow a free market of facilities, and let parents choose for themselves where to send their kid, assuming the parent knows better than some judge or some government bureaucrat.

And neither of those take into account the choice of the kid in the matter.  Punish people for hurting others, yes...  that's justice.  Treating people against their will and force-ably changing their minds is re-education, regardless of the humane intent.  Treatment today lacks informed consent.  More often than not it's more accurately a program of indoctrination, propaganda, and/or full blown thought reform.  Kids are told they will go in for treatment but they are rarely if ever told what that entails.  I truly believe that if they did they would choose jail instead.  At least there you get to keep your own thoughts, identity and worldview.  It's a choice between imprisonment and re-education and just plain imprisonment.
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Re: Who pays?
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2009, 11:43:46 PM »
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Key difference is where the funding comes from. Some folks see this as a problem that society needs to take responsibility for, some see it as the responsibility of the individual families involved.
And some see the actions of the kids as something the kids should be responsible for.
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Re: What politicians were paid off?
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2009, 03:02:46 AM »
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Re: What politicians were paid off?
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2009, 10:45:06 PM »
In Alberta a court order is required under the PchAD legislation to hold a child for only 5 days.

How are they legally able to abduct and hold a child in AARC for a year with no order?
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