Current HLA Staff

[Anonymous]

Ginger, that's a little bit difficult when he spams up entire pages with endless self-replies.

[RobertBruce]

Well John, there you have it. Proof positive that I have nothing to hide. Whatever claims you have about my being a coward or trying to hide something have just been blown out of the water. Anyone who so ardently pursues having something exposed obviously isnt afraid of the truth.

What does still remain is the fact that you are a coward, you're still afraid of the truth, and you're still a moron. Once again you've lost. Whenever you clean the mud off your face a little bit get back to me and I'll be glad to put you in your place once again.

[TheWho]

Let me see if I can clear this up. He asked. Repeatedly. I haven't done it for a couple of reasons.

First, even if I do link all the posts from a particular address that doesn't prove that the same person isn't posting through a proxy or from some other location. Not that I personally would expect RB to be dodgy that way. Just that linking some posts doesn't prove the absence of others.

Second, even if it were possible to prove the above, the whooter would just call us all liars.

Third, 1+3 = feeding the troll.... and I try not to do that. I'd just wind up getting wrapped up into whooterland crazieness and I really, really don't need that.

Just ignore the asshole!

Bull, It was easy enough to do mine!  
Ask Psy then:
1)   Run a query  which lists all the ips which are attached to the user name RobertBruce.  
2)   Those ips will identify all the posts which belong to Bruce.

[TheWho]

coward,

Sting!!!  It has to still hurt!!  Mine were done Bruce.  The deal still stands.  Ginger was right about one thing, if it isnt done and done right it will be a lie.  Ginger knows that it is easy to recognize a persons style whether they are logged  in or not.

Your still running Bruce... seems you just asked for help to get you out of your lies... keep running.

[Antigen]

No, it was easy back then with the old software. Things are much more complicated now. I can easily identify posts made from the same IP address. Reasigning authorship is another matter.

[Anonymous]

You are pathetic.  Ginger, please get this freak off here.  This has been weeks of garbage, enough already.

[RobertBruce]

I realize that John is a little older then some of us, but they still had to have aptitude test when he was in school. Couldn't they have recognized then how retarded this man is and just put an end to it then?


John, you've been proven definitevly wrong. If I really was guest posting, and really had so much to hide, why would I repeatedly ask Psy and Ginger to link up my five guest posts from years ago? Repeatedly John, on the board, in PM's, over phone calls even, just because I love proving you wrong so much. Now you have Ginger here publically stating to you that I have indeed made many requests, and you still somehow keep missing it.

John, the fact that you're afraid of the truth is what makes you a coward. It doesn't "sting" me at all, because not only do I know the truth, not only am I unafraid of it, not only do I embrace it, but the veracity of my statements has been verified for you. You are so beyond brainwashed into this industry you don't recognize anything but what you want to see.

Stay on this if you want to, but there's nothing left to talk about. No one expected you to ever own up to your comments anyway, even if you were never any good at hiding them.

You can't get around that simple unalienable truth that I dogged Ginger and Psy to link up those posts. By your own statement I've proven my case, look:

Eventually a person has to become proactive, advocate for himself and make things happen (if he really wants them to).

It doesnt get anymore proactive John. By your own standards I surpassed the bar, I never had anything to hide. You have once again been owned, even if you are too stupid to see it.


So again, stay focused on this if you want, you're the only one who looks the fool. For someone so obsessed with credibility you sure do burn through it. If you have anymore questions, you know how to reach me, and I you. Unless of course you're so ashamed you have to tuck tail and pretend to run away to Russia again.  :seg:

[TheWho]

No one asked you to attempt to get your posts strung together.  We need to wait for it to be done.  You have been lying to us all along.  Why is that, Bruce.  Why did you tell us that you already had your posts strung together when this wasnt true?

I have a post from Ginger that says this isnt so and supports my statement that you were lying to us... Do I need to show you the link?  Why would you lie to us if you didnt have anything to hide?  You have not been truthful through out this whole thread.  Clean yourself up and get this resolved, okay?

[RobertBruce]

There you go John, you've accepted one point, understood you were wrong, and now you're moving forward. Good job! This shows real progress. As a reward I will answer your question. Keep up the good work!

Why is that, Bruce. Why did you tell us that you already had your posts strung together when this wasnt true?

Because I was telling the truth all along John. When the whole conversation started several weeks ago I told you that I had probably five guest posts, none more recent then the past year. I told you there wasn't anything worth linking up, and even if they were linked up, I wouldnt have any idea of where they might be. All 100% true, I still don't guest post, as I don't have the need to do so. After asking repeatedly, Ginger and Psy both told me that linking up guest posts is no longer as simple as it once was, plus they both think you're a huge waste of time. Couple that with Ginger's statement last night commenting on the fact that even if they did add my five, and confirm it on the board, you wouldn't accept it anyway. You would claim that because Ginger and I are friends, that she was just covering for me. So honestly, if you're afraid of the truth, and don't believe it when it's given to you, what's the next step?

I have a post from Ginger that says this isnt so and supports my statement that you were lying to us... Do I need to show you the link? Why would you lie to us if you didnt have anything to hide?

Well what you actually have is a post from Ginger confirming that you were wrong the whole time. You continued to believe that not only was I reguarly guest posting, and as you claim, "attacking from the shadows", but was afraid to have those posts exposed. You claimed I was running from the truth, and that if I really wanted my guest post linked up I would be "proactive" in getting the job done. You claimed that otherwise it looked like I had something to hide. Well Ginger shut you down. She explained to you that I had been asking over and over again to have my five guest posts linked up. She proved you wrong using your own standards. A man suspected of murder doesnt offer a DNA sample, or volunteer for a polygraph test John. She saw your argument and proved me right by using it against you.





So then, now that the issue has been resolved, do you have any further questions? If you'd like to remain on the subject of lies, I have several of yours I'd be interested to hear your motivation on. Let me know John.

[RobertBruce]

No one asked you to attempt to get your posts strung together. We need to wait for it to be done

My apologies John, I didnt catch this until after I posted my previous comment. Allow me to respond:

You wait,the rest of us are moving on. I tried to explain to you weeks ago there was nothing worth linking up, but you refused to accept the truth. You were only willing to accept your preconcieved notions which you had no basis for. You had the same question put you over and over again, which you were unable to answer. Over and over again I asked why if I was afraid of the truth, would I ask psy to link up my guest posts on multiple occasions? Each time you came up empty for an answer. Finally yesterday afternoon you came up with what you thought was a definitive response. You claimed that if I really had nothing to hide, and wanted the job done, I'd be more proactive then just asking twice.

Ginger caught your comment and again, used your own standards against you. She stated publically that I had been after her and Psy for weeks to "get the job done" The response I got from them over and over again was that because there were so few, and the posts were so old, it was too much trouble. It wouldnt be the same situation for you, as you have always guest posted, but for me who doesn't guest posts, the task was a little more arduous and pointless.

I'm not sure if I can make it any more clear John, there's nothing to link up. The five guest posts I have are from years ago, and I don't believe any of them involve conversations with you. I've never had any other usernames then this one. I've never posted under any other guises but who I actually am, and what my connection to this industry is. Can you truthfully say those same things about yourself? Ginger knows I'm telling the truth, heard my repeated request, and used your own argument against you.

[Anonymous]

Exactly when did this conversation become about supposed guest posts made by a forum member?

The labeled topic is "Current HLA Staff", of which there are a sharply decreasing number (hopefully, soon to be zero).

Congratulations. You've let it derail yet another thread with its infinite whining.

Can't you ban its IP in Apache or something so it gets nothing but "Server not found"?

[Anonymous]

Exactly when did this conversation become about supposed guest posts made by a forum member?

The labeled topic is "Current HLA Staff", of which there are a sharply decreasing number (hopefully, soon to be zero).

Congratulations. You've let it derail yet another thread with its infinite whining.

Can't you ban its IP in Apache or something so it gets nothing but "Server not found"?

AMEN

[RobertBruce]

As much as we would all get a kick out of that Ginger wouldn't allow it. As much as people like John Reuben and all those like him who support child abuse sicken her, she doesnt believe in trying to silence them or control them the way they all tried to silence and control us.

[TheWho]

Nice try Bruce, but no go.  First you stated that you asked to have you posts strung together and the admins told you “What posts?  There are none to string together”.  Then you told us that you asked to have your posts strung together but didn’t get a response.  Then later you told us that you had 5 guest posts and that they have already been strung together.

Finally we were able to get Ginger to respond and tell us that your posts were never even looked at or strung together like you had claimed.  She confirmed that you were lying all along.  I have exposed your lies here at every turn and the admins here have confirmed it.

So we will wait until you can get the job done, Bruce.  I think you should use your time a little more constructively and try to have conversations with other people instead of trolling.  When you get the job done we can continue and I will answer any question you like, but until then try to be more constructive with your time and contribute more to the forum.

[TheWho]

Exactly when did this conversation become about supposed guest posts made by a forum member?

The labeled topic is "Current HLA Staff", of which there are a sharply decreasing number (hopefully, soon to be zero).

Congratulations. You've let it derail yet another thread with its infinite whining.

Can't you ban its IP in Apache or something so it gets nothing but "Server not found"?

I agree with you that Bruce should have started a new thread instead of going after thewho again on this thread.  But trying to ban him isnt the answer.  Thewho has done alot worse and he is still posting here.  I think if the admins ask Bruce to try to start separate threads in the future and troll him there it would be much less disruptive and those of us who dont want to read the crap wont be forced to wade thru it all to read the few posts which were on topic.