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Caleb Cottle of CALO has been asked to respond.
« on: July 15, 2009, 08:28:14 PM »
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Therapy Without Walls
clock July 15, 2009 06:28 by author Caleb

I frequently get asked the question, "What is a recreational therapist?"  I am always hesitant to respond.  As I explain that I go rock climbing and wake boarding and spend long hours fishing and canoeing with adolescents, people don't always believe that I have a real job.  I've been accused of making a living by playing hard. While there is some truth to that statement, recreational therapy is so much more than just lying out in the sun catching rays, or taking a joy ride on a boat with the wind in your hair.  I can't always step back at the end of the day and look at what I've accomplished because so much of the work happens deep in the hearts and heads of the youth I work with.

It is difficult for most adolescents to connect with their feelings and talk about relationships, especially when there is a history of trauma or abuse.  At times sitting down in an office can inspire fear and an unwillingness to open up.  This is particularly obvious when a student begins treatment.  Within the recreational therapy department our goal is to get rid of the literal walls surrounding therapy, so that students begin to let their own personal walls down.  Fortunately CALO's location allows for wonderful and exciting outdoor opportunities year round.

As students participate in experiential exercises they have opportunities to expose very genuine and sometimes very intense fears that are hidden deep within.  Take for example two boys I once took out on a canoe.  One of them was very experienced and the other was just learning.  In an attempt to paddle from point A to point B these two boys successfully completed numerous circles until eventually the experienced boy got angry and jumped out.  Filled with frustration he swam to shore and swore never to share a canoe with his partner again.  His partner, now afraid and alone, threw down his paddle and yelled for help.  It was tempting to hurry out and rescue the boy still begging for help, but in doing so a great therapeutic opportunity would have been missed.

After some validation and persuasion the experienced boy on shore agreed to swim back to the boat and accompany his stranded partner back to dry land.  This was not an impressive sight to behold.  The two of them struggled and zigzagged until they finally made it back to shore.  I was able to sit down with this frustrated partnership and discuss two issues that were meaningful to both of these boys.
 The first issue was abandonment.  We had a great discussion about how tempting it is to abandon others when they are holding us back.  We were also able to discuss what it feels like to be abandoned.  The boys were able to connect the dots when I asked my favorite question, "How is that like your life?"  Suddenly there was a safe opportunity for these boys to share insights and feelings about their own adoption experiences.  The vulnerability demonstrated in this conversation opened doors that led to a discussion about helplessness.  The boy left in the canoe had everything he needed to get himself back to dry land.  His fear however, had hindered his ability to look for solutions.  Again the question, "How is that like your life?" was begging to be asked.  The connection made with those two boys that day inspired a friendship that grew and lasted a long time.  From that point on a portion of empathy for one another helped them support each other through difficult times and frustrating moments.

It may very well be true that I have the greatest job on earth.  However, it is not because I get to spend my afternoons scouting out the lake's best fishing holes, or because I get to climb around on our exciting ropes course each week.  I have the greatest job on earth because I get to be an active participant in the process of building and repairing relationships with impressive boys and girls, then observe how the values and principles we learn together are applied to relationships in their lives as they strive for interdependence with their parents and family members.  The memories of the fun we have will certainly last a long, long time, but the principles of communication, trust and service that we discover together will hopefully bless their lives forever.

Mr. Caleb Cottle,

Please explain why you did not take the initiative to assist a child [with no canoeing experience] after his partner jumped out of the canoe?  It is your responsibility to ensure the safety of each child.  The canoe could have flipped whereas the child may have been trapped under the canoe.  Caleb Cottle has been asked to respond to my post.
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Re: Caleb Cottle of CALO has been asked to respond.
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2009, 10:56:57 PM »
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It was tempting to hurry out and rescue the boy still begging for help, but in doing so a great therapeutic opportunity would have been missed.

First, I fail to see how scaring the crap out of the second kid could possibly be therapeutic for him.  Secondly, I think safety should have overridden any possible "therapeutic opportunities".  The scared boy should have been immediately comforted and provided with aid.  It's not like the staff couldn't have done what the first boy didn't.  I wonder how long it took to convince the first boy to swim back to the canoe while the second one was waiting in fear.  Sorry, but this just sounds totally fucked up.  One thing about programs I find so dodgy is they use things like fear and shame to create what they call "therapeutic opportunities" and so forth.  Calo claims kids feel safe... right.  i'm sure that stranded kid felt safe.  If I were him I'd have a hard time trusting the staff after that.   I have a feeling an actual qualified therapist would have balked at the scene.  This is the sort of gung ho, wild-west, vigilante "therapy" that runs the risk of permanent mental scarring and tragedy, even when it is "successful".  Yes, i see what they were trying to do, and yes, maybe it turned out all-right in the end, but what if it didn't?  That sort of risk is *never* acceptable.
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Re: Caleb Cottle of CALO has been asked to respond.
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2009, 12:40:35 AM »
The parents would have every right to sue if their child was hurt.  I wonder what Caleb Cottle would say in front of a jury?
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Re: Caleb Cottle of CALO has been asked to respond.
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2009, 01:02:38 AM »
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Take for example two boys I once took out on a canoe. One of them was very experienced and the other was just learning. In an attempt to paddle from point A to point B these two boys successfully completed numerous circles until eventually the experienced boy got angry and jumped out.

1.) Taking someone out on a canoe implies that one is also in the canoe. Where was Mr. Cottle when one of the boys jumped ship?

2.) Doesn't CALO teach the "stroke-stroke-switch, stroke-stroke-switch" canoe-paddling technique? This would ameliorate unequal capabilities amongst paddlers. It would also serve to distribute muscular exertion in a more bilateral fashion (per individual paddler), which is wiser from the standpoint of reducing unnecessary strain and injury.
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Re: Caleb Cottle of CALO has been asked to respond.
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2009, 05:02:58 PM »
bump.  this is far too interesting a thread to drop off so soon.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2009, 05:32:33 PM »
When I worked for Eckerd Youth Alternatives, the staff were serious about canoe safety.  I was on canoe trips in Florida and saw more than my fair share of canoes flip.  Without hesitation, counselors assisted to prevent a child from drowning to death or sustaining injuries.  If the child drowned or sustained injuries, Ken Huey would have allot of explaining to do with the parents.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2009, 05:56:26 PM »
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2.) Doesn't CALO teach the "stroke-stroke-switch, stroke-stroke-switch" canoe-paddling technique? This would ameliorate unequal capabilities amongst paddlers. It would also serve to distribute muscular exertion in a more bilateral fashion (per individual paddler), which is wiser from the standpoint of reducing unnecessary strain and injury.
Maybe CALO doesn't know wtf theyre doing!
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2009, 12:57:33 AM »
khuey@ca-lo.com  > Ken Huey's e-mail address
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Re: Caleb Cottle of CALO has been asked to respond.
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2009, 11:20:40 AM »
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Sorry, but this just sounds totally fucked up. One thing about programs I find so dodgy is they use things like fear and shame to create what they call "therapeutic opportunities" and so forth. Calo claims kids feel safe... right. i'm sure that stranded kid felt safe. If I were him I'd have a hard time trusting the staff after that. I have a feeling an actual qualified therapist would have balked at the scene. This is the sort of gung ho, wild-west, vigilante "therapy" that runs the risk of permanent mental scarring and tragedy, even when it is "successful".
The contrived nature of making use of such a "therapeutic opportunity" may also backfire on ya. Personally, were *I* put on such a spot, this would be the last time I'd ever trust this guy... though I'd sure as hell pretend I did!

No more of those phony "golden moments" for me!
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2009, 03:19:56 PM »
If I was that kid I would have learned the hard way how to paddle and waved adios as I hauled ass to the nearest river!
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2009, 03:23:03 PM »
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If I was that kid I would have learned the hard way how to paddle and waved adios as I hauled ass to the nearest river!

Doubt it. You would of waited patiently for the day when Papa Kenny takes your head in his lap, as you weep with satisfaction of finally being accepted by the family you never had. Tell the truth, asshole.
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2009, 03:26:13 PM »
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If I was that kid I would have learned the hard way how to paddle and waved adios as I hauled ass to the nearest river!

Doubt it. You would of waited patiently for the day when Papa Kenny takes your head in his lap, as you weep with satisfaction of finally being accepted by the family you never had. Tell the truth, asshole.

Sorry, but ever since I was 8 I swore never to suck the dick of anyone older than I am. It's a promise that became easier and easier to hold true to as I finished middle school.
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"Renovo is.... renewal"
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2009, 03:49:19 PM »
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If I was that kid I would have learned the hard way how to paddle and waved adios as I hauled ass to the nearest river!
Doubt it. You would of waited patiently for the day when Papa Kenny takes your head in his lap, as you weep with satisfaction of finally being accepted by the family you never had. Tell the truth, asshole.
Sorry, but ever since I was 8 I swore never to suck the dick of anyone older than I am. It's a promise that became easier and easier to hold true to as I finished middle school.
CALO has a "brother" program just a quick drive away for pals like ^^^^ you two, located about an hour west of Saint Louis, and run by Brian Allred. RENOVO Boys Academy of Missouri, " helping families and young men, before it's too late," is also in the stable of Proficio Management, which is itself fully owned and operated by West Ridge Academy in West Jordan, Utah. I think its fairly safe to say that Renovo probably has a pretty conservative Mormon take on whatever said issues may be...
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2009, 05:48:47 PM »
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If I was that kid I would have learned the hard way how to paddle and waved adios as I hauled ass to the nearest river!
Doubt it. You would of waited patiently for the day when Papa Kenny takes your head in his lap, as you weep with satisfaction of finally being accepted by the family you never had. Tell the truth, asshole.
Sorry, but ever since I was 8 I swore never to suck the dick of anyone older than I am. It's a promise that became easier and easier to hold true to as I finished middle school.
CALO has a "brother" program just a quick drive away for pals like ^^^^ you two, located about an hour west of Saint Louis, and run by Brian Allred. RENOVO Boys Academy of Missouri, " helping families and young men, before it's too late," is also in the stable of Proficio Management, which is itself fully owned and operated by West Ridge Academy in West Jordan, Utah. I think its fairly safe to say that Renovo probably has a pretty conservative Mormon take on whatever said issues may be...

wait what are "inappropriate sexual behavior"
i mean if your kid is raping people they need to be in jail not a program >.>
do they think they can fix "teh gay" or some thing >.>
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2009, 06:26:30 PM »
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Camp New Grace to get the gay out! ;)
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