RIP Frankie Laurita, Academy at Swift River

[TheWho]

You are still missing the point,let me try a different way

In insisting CEDU did not torture

Insisting All programs tortured every kid

, and that all the survivor are lying

And that all survivors are telling the truth.

, in your attempts to build up Academy at Swift River

In your attempt to tear down ASR and every program

, you only show the utter complicity of program supporters and educational consultants in the abuse, torture and murder in cultic gulags.

You only show your ignorance.  Because no one besides yourself and a handful of people here on fornits could belief this is possible.
 

People's lives are a game to you.

Program parents, edcons and program staff are fair targets to you.

100s of kids committed suicide because of the torture at CEDU

1,000 of kids are helped by programs every year.


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Many more simply had their brains wrecked and their lives ruined. And you literally laugh at them "ha, ha, ha"
You have not a drop of decency in you soul

I laugh at the absurd logic and exaggerations. But people like you want to make into more than it really is.  So when you exaggerate about how I react then why wouldn’t you exaggerate about your time in the program.  I believe I get the same treatment... embellish embellish.. TheWho is evil and refers kids to programs, murders kids etc.

See my point?

But, of course, if you really are John Reuben, the monster who drove his son to suicide and currently uses his obit as a marketing tool, what else could one expect?

See what I mean?  You call this guy a monster, say he drove his son to suicide.  You don’t know this, you never met him or know the circumstance of his sons death.  You make this up to make him look bad.
So why are we expected to believe you would not make things up about programs and staff to make them look bad?

Think about it from my perspective.

[Troll Control]

Because no one besides yourself and a handful of people here on fornits could belief this is possible.

Sooo....What exactly are you doing here then?  If this were true, you wouldn't spend twelve hours every day on Fornits, would you?  Think about it from my perspective.

[Troll Control]

How long will Ilicia live, Whooter?  It's a crapshoot.

[TheWho]

How long will Ilicia live, Whooter?  It's a crapshoot.

Not sure who she is.  But its a good bet that when she does die people here will try desperately to tie responsibility for her death back to a program.
Most of us agree on this I think.

[Anonymous]

You are still missing the point,let me try a different way

In insisting CEDU did not torture

Insisting All programs tortured every kid

, and that all the survivor are lying

.

You are a babbling troll, but just for future reference, the “logical” reaction to your feeling to people feeling all programs are bad is not to insist all victims of crime are lying, and say all gulags are good.

The point: You said CEDU survivors, all-- aprox 1,000 of them who are willing to testify are lying and that all the plethora of corroborating documentation that initiated several successful suits and a criminal investigation is moot.

You serve as a  fantastic expose on the mentality of program personnel. In fact, your posting here 100 times a day, promoting the AARC, CEDU, and any "program" you come across, when you are not pretending to be drug addicted  "student," or Robert Bruce  is a fantastic expose in the state of mind of program personnel.

You are sabotaging your claimed aim. Keep at it


Your "fiduciary interest" in Aspen education is perhaps what leads you to your insanity, perhaps your dead son, perhaps you just drunk the koolaid, perhaps you are a paid "troll." Ether way, you are the paradigm of a program personel, dishonest, and despite your claims to care for people, "laugh" and discount sworn testimony descrining torture,

.

[TheWho]

You are a babbling troll, but just for future reference, the “logical” reaction to your feeling to people feeling all programs are bad is not to insist all victims of crime are lying, and say all gulags are good.

Seems we found some common ground.  Anyone who has read my post knowS I am not an extremist either way.  I don’t believe a particular group are all liars or all good.  There are good and bad programs and some victims lie and others do not.  What I fight against is the mentality that all program parents are bad  parents.  All Programs are bad, all edcons are bad, all program staff are bad all survivors are telling the truth.

See what I mean?

The point: You said CEDU survivors, all-- aprox 1,000 of them who are willing to testify are lying and that all the plethora of corroborating documentation that initiated several successful suits and a criminal investigation is moot.

See you read what you want to read.  I never said 1,000 people were  lying.

Your "fiduciary interest" in Aspen education is perhaps what leads you to your insanity, perhaps your dead son, perhaps you just drunk the koolaid, perhaps you are a paid "troll." Ether way, you are the paradigm of a program personel, dishonest, and despite your claims to care for people, "laugh" and discount sworn testimony descrining torture.

See now if you claimed to have been abused in a program I would be justified in not believing you.  The above paragraph was fabricated, by you, for the benefit of making someone look bad.  Truth doesn’t matter to you as long as your agenda is fulfilled.
This is why I post here.  Because posters like yourself make up stories about people and programs to try to discredit them.  So out of the other side of your mouth do you still insist that all survivors tell the truth?

A little tough to answer maybe after that post?

[Troll Control]

You are still missing the point,let me try a different way

In insisting CEDU did not torture

Insisting All programs tortured every kid

, and that all the survivor are lying

.

You are a babbling troll, but just for future reference, the “logical” reaction to your feeling to people feeling all programs are bad is not to insist all victims of crime are lying, and say all gulags are good.

The point: You said CEDU survivors, all-- aprox 1,000 of them who are willing to testify are lying and that all the plethora of corroborating documentation that initiated several successful suits and a criminal investigation is moot.

You serve as a  fantastic expose on the mentality of program personnel. In fact, your posting here 100 times a day, promoting the AARC, CEDU, and any "program" you come across, when you are not pretending to be drug addicted  "student," or Robert Bruce  is a fantastic expose in the state of mind of program personnel.

You are sabotaging your claimed aim. Keep at it


Your "fiduciary interest" in Aspen education is perhaps what leads you to your insanity, perhaps your dead son, perhaps you just drunk the koolaid, perhaps you are a paid "troll." Ether way, you are the paradigm of a program personel, dishonest, and despite your claims to care for people, "laugh" and discount sworn testimony descrining torture,

.

 :notworthy:  :notworthy:  :notworthy:

[Troll Control]

ASR is proven to shorten one's natural lifespan.  ASR prolees seem to last into their 20's and that's about it.

[TheWho]

ASR is proven to shorten one's natural lifespan.  ASR prolees seem to last into their 20's and that's about it.

Actually, There is data that supports they are all killed before they leave.  No one has ever left that place.

[Troll Control]

^^Whooter^^

In any case, lots of people seem to die young when they have been detained at Aspen programs.  You can't just ignore the facts that either they wern't helped and killed themselves or the 'help' is murderous.  Both apply, actually.  Aspen programs have KILLED CHILDREN.  Is that the risk you want to take with YOUR KID?  Not me.

[TheWho]

^^Whooter^^

In any case, lots of people seem to die young when they have been detained at Aspen programs.  You can't just ignore the facts that either they wern't helped and killed themselves or the 'help' is murderous.  Both apply, actually.  Aspen programs have KILLED CHILDREN.  Is that the risk you want to take with YOUR KID?  Not me.

Homeschooling is really the only safe way to go.  Public school has the highest rate of suicide followed by private school, followed by boarding school and then finally Therapeutic boarding schools.  So this is no way to escape it unless you keep you kids home and heavily medicated.

[Troll Control]

^^Whooter^^

In any case, lots of people seem to die young when they have been detained at Aspen programs.  You can't just ignore the facts that either they wern't helped and killed themselves or the 'help' is murderous.  Both apply, actually.  Aspen programs have KILLED CHILDREN.  Is that the risk you want to take with YOUR KID?  Not me.

Homeschooling is really the only safe way to go.  Public school has the highest rate of suicide followed by private school, followed by boarding school and then finally Therapeutic boarding schools.  So this is no way to escape it unless you keep you kids home and heavily medicated.

^^Whooter^^

Since Whooter can provide zero evidence of this assertion, what we can go on is that many kids who go to ASR end up dead before they hit 25.  That's indesputable.  What is very, very clear is that many ASR kids, so far, die soon after the program.

[TheWho]

Since Whooter can provide zero evidence of this assertion, what we can go on is that many kids who go to ASR end up dead before they hit 25.  That's indesputable.  What is very, very clear is that many ASR kids, so far, die soon after the program.

^^Whooter^^  again the who trying to throw us off.  As usual he puts out a statistic without a link to its source. He is just making this stuff up.  We all know that all kids from ASR are dead.
We can safely assume that every guest post on these threads is thewho.

[Troll Control]

Since Whooter can provide zero evidence of this assertion, what we can go on is that many kids who go to ASR end up dead before they hit 25.  That's indesputable.  What is very, very clear is that many ASR kids, so far, die soon after the program.

^^Whooter^^  again the who trying to throw us off.  As usual he puts out a statistic without a link to its source. He is just making this stuff up.  We all know that all kids from ASR are dead.
We can safely assume that every guest post on these threads is thewho.

No, we can't, but ^^this one^^ is.  Whooter is completely transparent. Of course he's trying to conflate the issue.  Nobody ever said all kids that go to ASR are dead.  What was said, is that there have been many deaths right after ASR.  ASR has a high correlation with death.  Can't get around that, Whootie.  Facts are facts.

[TheWho]

Since Whooter can provide zero evidence of this assertion, what we can go on is that many kids who go to ASR end up dead before they hit 25.  That's indesputable.  What is very, very clear is that many ASR kids, so far, die soon after the program.

^^Whooter^^  again the who trying to throw us off.  As usual he puts out a statistic without a link to its source. He is just making this stuff up.  We all know that all kids from ASR are dead.
We can safely assume that every guest post on these threads is thewho.

No, we can't, but ^^this one^^ is.  Whooter is completely transparent. Of course he's trying to conflate the issue.  Nobody ever said all kids that go to ASR are dead.  What was said, is that there have been many deaths right after ASR.  ASR has a high correlation with death.  Can't get around that, Whootie.  Facts are facts.

^^Whooter^^  Trolling yourself doesnt throw us off a bit.  Trying to say all kids that attend ASR are dead just so people will believe that there is a high correlation (whooter tell).  Just by using that word you expose yourself moron.  You are trying to make us believe that there are less deaths than there really are.  But we aint buying it.  We know every death and we have their names.  Like you said yourself.  Facts are facts.

Keep talking to yourself.  You are not fooling anyone