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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #120 on: July 18, 2009, 07:54:13 PM »
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What stops here Peter? You posting? Never. Answer the questions. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.

Good, you fucking guys have been going at it for weeks.  Finally theIt gets it threw his thick head that RB isnt going to revel his guest postings.  Bruce give it up TheIt makes you look like a fool, just ignore him.  Post what is real and ignore the troll.
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #121 on: July 18, 2009, 08:16:03 PM »
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Max Reuben is the second son of John D. Reuben of "SavingTeens.org" (STICC).  Max was sent to HLA from 2004 to 2008.

His brother, Mike, was sent to SUWS and then to ASR.  Because his real issues were never dealt with at these kiddie prisons, he killed himself last year with an overdose of heroin.  Prior to going to SUWS and ASR, Mike had never been a drug abuser.  He became one after four years of detention.

Did any of you go to HLA with Max?  If so, I'd like to know if HLA allowed him to attend his mother's funeral.

HLA uses family tragedies to gain compliance from their detainees.  They will say things like "If you want to go to your mom's funeral, you better straighten up right now, or you won't go!"  Nothing like mind-raping a kid who just lost his mom, right?

Did any of you know Max well?  Did you meet his dad?  If so, what was his dad like in person?  On fornits he's a little coward 'who' hides behind his supposed anonymity and degrades people who had bad experiences at HLA and ASR, even though his neglect and ASR's abuse led to his son's death.

I just wonder what kind of parent does such a lousy job of raising his kids that they both 'needed' kiddie jail time.

Any feedback is appreciated, especially about how HLA handles Max's mom's death.

Thank you in advance for your thoughtful replies.

Stay on topic please.

Robert, theit is a troll. It, and anyone masochistic enough to read this thread sees you gave permission to have your guest posts ID.d, and Theit is has not.

Repeating that fact 1 million times won't get theit (John Reuben?) to acknowledge that, or make it more obvious to the readers.

Have Antigen link your posts and MOVE ON.

From now on keep the back and forth to an appropriate topic, please, not this one.
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #122 on: July 18, 2009, 08:47:19 PM »
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Have Antigen link your posts and MOVE ON.

well said, amen.  Robert just do it and get it over with.
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #123 on: July 19, 2009, 01:14:19 AM »
He was talking to you Peter. So where is that post where you gave permission to have all your post linked. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #124 on: July 19, 2009, 02:42:27 PM »
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What stops here Peter? You posting? Never. Answer the questions. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.

Good, you fucking guys have been going at it for weeks.  Finally theIt gets it threw his thick head that RB isnt going to revel his guest postings.  Bruce give it up TheIt makes you look like a fool, just ignore him.  Post what is real and ignore the troll.

I second this!!  :tup:
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #125 on: July 20, 2009, 09:56:52 AM »
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Max Reuben is the second son of John D. Reuben of "SavingTeens.org" (STICC).  Max was sent to HLA from 2004 to 2008.

His brother, Mike, was sent to SUWS and then to ASR.  Because his real issues were never dealt with at these kiddie prisons, he killed himself last year with an overdose of heroin.  Prior to going to SUWS and ASR, Mike had never been a drug abuser.  He became one after four years of detention.

Did any of you go to HLA with Max?  If so, I'd like to know if HLA allowed him to attend his mother's funeral.

HLA uses family tragedies to gain compliance from their detainees.  They will say things like "If you want to go to your mom's funeral, you better straighten up right now, or you won't go!"  Nothing like mind-raping a kid who just lost his mom, right?

Did any of you know Max well?  Did you meet his dad?  If so, what was his dad like in person?  On fornits he's a little coward 'who' hides behind his supposed anonymity and degrades people who had bad experiences at HLA and ASR, even though his neglect and ASR's abuse led to his son's death.

I just wonder what kind of parent does such a lousy job of raising his kids that they both 'needed' kiddie jail time.

Any feedback is appreciated, especially about how HLA handles Max's mom's death.

Thank you in advance for your thoughtful replies.

QFT.  Stay away from John Reuben and 'STICC'!
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #126 on: July 20, 2009, 01:44:18 PM »
Does anyone know is 4 years the average stay for HLA?  Has anyone else here gone for that long?
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #127 on: July 20, 2009, 03:13:15 PM »
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I just wonder what kind of parent does such a lousy job of raising his kids that they both 'needed' kiddie jail time.

The majority of kids who attend a program have siblings who are doing just fine.  So the quality of the parenting isn’t a common denominator or potential cause of the child needing placement.  They are normal families who happen to have kids who are at risk.  Also you are one of the few here who recognize that the kids are in need of help (or kiddie jail time as you call it).  Many here feel the children are placed unnecessarily or dont need help at all.
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #128 on: July 20, 2009, 03:45:04 PM »
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Because his real issues were never dealt with at these kiddie prisons, he killed himself last year with an overdose of heroin.

How was this determined?  Did the boy leave a note ?
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #129 on: July 20, 2009, 06:29:25 PM »
There was a kid there who was incarcerated for I believe five years. There was also several kids who got through the entire waste of time program only to be sent right back. This is of course only more evidence that proves what little benefits are provided from being locked up in this and other kiddie prisons. The other option counselors there had was to "drop" kids. This meant dropping them into a lower peer group, doing so meant the kid could stay locked up indefintly.
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #130 on: July 20, 2009, 07:02:33 PM »
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #131 on: July 20, 2009, 09:13:30 PM »
Another Buccellato in the making?
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #132 on: July 20, 2009, 09:22:47 PM »
You wait, Reuben will show up on Aspen  Forum, if the rumors of his good bud Holloway ring right and Aspen did in fact pick up Holloway.
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #133 on: July 20, 2009, 09:33:21 PM »
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Sharon Levy, MD, MPH,  Director of Pediatrics for the Adolescent Substance Abuse Program at Children's Hospital in Boston Associate Researcher, Center for Adolescent Substance Abuse Research
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Re: John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
« Reply #134 on: July 21, 2009, 07:01:59 AM »
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Does anyone know is 4 years the average stay for HLA?  Has anyone else here gone for that long?

14 months is the average stay.  Kids rarely stay past 16 months.  The 2004-2008 is the time he spent in highschool (not necessarily at HLA).  If there are kids that stayed 2 years or more, it would be extremely rare.
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