John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA

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Adjudicated children:  There were a number of children who had been convicted of a crime and were sentenced to probation rather than jail time, part of that probation requirement was that they enroll and complete a program like HLA.  Those adjudicated children that were remanded to HLA, kept a probation officer
and met with them throughtout their stay at HLA and were not appropriate for HLA's program.  A letter was required from HLA to their probation officer stating the date of enrollment and date of projected completion.  The child must then complete the program to fulfill his probation requirements. According to
documents I received, there was only one child that left HLA to fulfill jail time, then returned to complete HLA's program.  There were children that were found guilty of blowing up a car, shooting out parent's window, incest, misdemeamor felonies, etc. This does not include psychiatric diagnosis of pedophilia, schizophrenia,bulemia, or any other 'patient' anomalies that were enrolled at HLA, per HLA tending psychiatrists reports. Again, if you wish to research this, there is a form you may fill out with the ORS under "Georgia's Sunshine Laws" which grants public access, thus to their reports on HLA(the hidden ones).  The managing attorney for the ORS is Nina Edidin. According to Nina Edidin, at the time, she stated, she 'thought' in her letter to my attorney that the ORS only kept files for 2 years, but  as we re-stated, we were fortunate that the request was under two years.  Miraculously documents dated back to 1998, 2001, etc. appeared. A letter will not suffice as it took a year and a half seeking ORS compliance as a citizen, and only after a private attorney representing me, stepped in, did I receive actual investigative reports, including inter-office emails of all parties, including Assistant District Attorney Mark Cicero. Note: I was repeatedly told by the ORS that they did not understand what I was requesting. The ORS is shut tight to protect themselves where HLA is concerned and it is no different with LCSO as the ORS found in their investigation.  What goes around, comes around. The cost is just over $700.00 and you shall receive paper documents, sloppily re-dacted, somewhere between 2500- 2900 pages.  One may do the same with LCSO, there you will find the 911 calls within a short period of time 8 attempted suicides, 'Life flight', 5 run-aways, rape, etc. (co-operation, again is limited).  The 911 call logs were also passed out during a Lumpkin County Board meeting re:  Mountain Brook Academy.  One may be able to call the Lumpkin County Board and ask for a copy of them.

These documents will provide answers to what you are asking of Robert and confirm what Robert states and unfortunately more regarding the politics in Georgia.  Protection under the Law only seems to relate to Georgia's governing agencies covering their own arces as apparent throughout the ORS report.

Who's lying, now??

So can anyone explain why Max was forbidden from going to his mother's funeral?  Still waiting for that.  I also think it's abuse to prevent a child from seeing his dying mother or going to her funeral.  That's pure psychological abuse, which HLA runs in spades.

[TheWho]

Well you've yet to answer the question: What do you consider to be abuse.

As to other allegations, things you're already aware of, and have been verified by programmies of HLA have been the starvation diet on restrictions, and work assignment details. Just because you dont believe them doesnt make it false Peter.

Out of the almost 3,000 pages on HLA there are documented suicide attempts, run aways , all their 911 calls but there hasn’t been any abuse.  Why is that?
Your word doesn’t count, Bruce because it has already been established that you do not tell the truth.
Let me ask you something.  If posters like yourself come onto fornits and make up stories about the owner burning down buildings in an attempt to discredit the place why would they stop at that.  Why not say HLA tried to starve them to death or work them to death? Or abuse them like you would have readers believe.  Where are the police reports which support this so called abuse.  I didnt see the report mention starvation attempts and excessive labor.

As far as your posts are concerned.  Just let us know when you have them all linked together.  The only reason you would not have this done is if you had something to hide.  I have done it a few times.  If you are honest like I am then just have it done.  We will take a look at them then.

No there wasnt any mention of arson, starvation, excessive labor or abuse.  Those were made up to try to make HLA look bad.  We can see from the report that HLA is open with their information.  They call the authorities/911 when a child tries to harm themselves or if a child is raped.  In fact they have been known to be overly cautious where the children are concerned i.e. in at least one instance they called in a "life flight copter" after a child attempted to take their life.  These are the same procedures used in the public school system when the same events occur.

So if posters here claim there was arson or they were abused these accounts and details would be in the report also.  But they are not.

[TheWho]

I would give RobertBruce a chance to explain himself before throwing him under the bus.  Maybe they missed the part in the report where HLA tried to starve him to death or used excessive physical labor as an abuse tactic.  Give him time to bring the evidence to the table before convicting him.  Although the report did seem thorough.

[Anonymous]

I would give RobertBruce a chance to explain himself before throwing him under the bus.  Maybe they missed the part in the report where HLA tried to starve him to death or used excessive physical labor as an abuse tactic.  Give him time to bring the evidence to the table before convicting him.  Although the report did seem thorough.

So between last night and this morning you requested, received, read and critiqued a 3000 page report, huh, whooter?  More lying, huh?

[TheWho]

I would give RobertBruce a chance to explain himself before throwing him under the bus.  Maybe they missed the part in the report where HLA tried to starve him to death or used excessive physical labor as an abuse tactic.  Give him time to bring the evidence to the table before convicting him.  Although the report did seem thorough.

So between last night and this morning you requested, received, read and critiqued a 3000 page report, huh, whooter?  More lying, huh?

If you go back afew pages you will see that "Jill" has the report.  There was no mention of Attempted Starvation or Excessive physical labor nor arson.  Lets give Bruce a chance before we call him a liar, but if it isnt in the report then we know he made it up.

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I would give RobertBruce a chance to explain himself before throwing him under the bus.  Maybe they missed the part in the report where HLA tried to starve him to death or used excessive physical labor as an abuse tactic.  Give him time to bring the evidence to the table before convicting him.  Although the report did seem thorough.

So between last night and this morning you requested, received, read and critiqued a 3000 page report, huh, whooter?  More lying, huh?

If you go back afew pages you will see that "Jill" has the report.  There was no mention of Attempted Starvation or Excessive physical labor nor arson.  Lets give Bruce a chance before we call him a liar, but if it isnt in the report then we know he made it up.

Can you quote where RB accused anyone of arson?  I think you made that up.

Having read the report, and believing Jill when she paraphrases it, it appears what Jill said is true: it substantiates Robert's claims and dismisses yours.  Now, if you can prove otherwise, please, do so.

[TheWho]

Well, if you can find where it says that HLA tried to starve people to death or used excessive physical labor then I think RobertBruce might get a break here, otherwise he is still on the hook to substantiate his allegations.

Again, I dont think there is any need for a witch hunt on this.  Lets give Bruce a chance to talk to Jill or whoever he needs to to provide proof of his allegations against HLA.  Now that the reports are out and we see HLA was above board the whole time, RobertBruce needs to back up his words.  But lets give him time.

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I would give RobertBruce a chance to explain himself before throwing him under the bus.  Maybe they missed the part in the report where HLA tried to starve him to death or used excessive physical labor as an abuse tactic.  Give him time to bring the evidence to the table before convicting him.  Although the report did seem thorough.

So between last night and this morning you requested, received, read and critiqued a 3000 page report, huh, whooter?  More lying, huh?

If you go back afew pages you will see that "Jill" has the report.  There was no mention of Attempted Starvation or Excessive physical labor nor arson.  Lets give Bruce a chance before we call him a liar, but if it isnt in the report then we know he made it up.

Can you quote where RB accused anyone of arson?  I think you made that up.

Having read the report, and believing Jill when she paraphrases it, it appears what Jill said is true: it substantiates Robert's claims and dismisses yours.  Now, if you can prove otherwise, please, do so.

If you go back afew pages you will see that "Jill" has the report. There was no mention of Attempted Starvation or Excessive physical labor nor arson. Lets give Bruce a chance before we call him a liar, but if it isnt in the report then we know he made it up.

Jill says the report substantiates Robert's claims.  Thanks for pointing that out, Who.

These documents will provide answers to what you are asking of Robert and confirm what Robert states.

Now, I'd like to discuss suicide attempts, rapes, assaults, 911 calls, etc.  Previously you had stated that people referencing these incidents and their reportage were "liars."  In light of these facts you seem to have uncovered for yourself, would you like to revise your statement and let everyone know you were wrong about HLA's sordid history?  Thanks.

I also wonder why Max was placed here considering the public laundry list of assaults, rapes, etc that occurred on campus.  Why would you place Max there, John, when you knew of all of the abuse?

[TheWho]

Well, if you can find where it says that HLA tried to starve people to death or used excessive physical labor then I think RobertBruce might get a break here, otherwise he is still on the hook to substantiate his allegations.

Again, I dont think there is any need for a witch hunt on this.  Lets give Bruce a chance to talk to Jill or whoever he needs to to provide proof of his allegations against HLA.  Now that the reports are out and we see HLA was above board the whole time, RobertBruce needs to back up his words.  But lets give him time.

I agree we shouldnt string up MR Bruce.  But it would be nice to see evidence of starvation and excessive physical labor.  I am sure after he put on enough weight he would have gotten some strength up and gone to the police.  So there would be a 911 call or a police record in the ORS report.  We will wait for that instead of speculating.  RobertBruce should be considered innocent until he clears himself

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Now, I'd like to discuss suicide attempts, rapes, assaults, 911 calls, etc. Previously you had stated that people referencing these incidents and their reportage were "liars." In light of these facts you seem to have uncovered for yourself, would you like to revise your statement and let everyone know you were wrong about HLA's sordid history? Thanks.

I also wonder why Max was placed here considering the public laundry list of assaults, rapes, etc that occurred on campus. Why would you place Max there, John, when you knew of all of the abuse?

What about those rapes and assaults that are so well documented in the report?  Would you still recommend HLA considering the incontrovertible police and ORS evidence of rapes and assaults?  Are the poeple who you called "liars" before when they told you this now vindicated?  Would you like to apologize for calling raped kids liars?  Beaten kids liars?

How about just simply admitting you were wrong?  Is that too much to ask in light of the fact that the  proof you have been demanding shows that HLA is very dangerous place?  It's just an apology and an admission of wrongdoing, much the same as HLA was forced into.  Let's see who the grownups are here, shall we?

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Yes, they used food as punishment. While on restrictions you had a limited number of minutes to eat. If you didn't throw your food away when trash came by you were further punished. If you talked during the meal, which was taken outside away from the group, your meal would be taken away.

...it appears they aborted this practice years ago but still I dont understand why they would do this or what they expected to gain.  Pissing the kid off more or having them malnourished isnt going to help things from an educational perspective or emotional one.

Oh, I guess never mind about the "restrictions diet" meme you've been going on about.  It appears you already acknowledged and admitted it years ago along with an admission that you couldn't see any value in doing it.  Just want to set the record straight that what you're demanding Robert produce now is something you already admitted to several years ago.  So much for "honest dialogue" huh, Whooter.  Maybe you should read your own posts before you call Robert a liar, as you've just called yourself one.  Stings, huh?

Now, my question is for John Reuben.  Since HLA has been "very transparent" in reporting the crimes that happen on its campus, which are plentiful, 3000 pages of violations, etc. in the ORS report, why did you send Max there knowing it was a very dangerous environment?  Why did you send a glue-sniffer to a facility that houses sex offenders, rapists, pedophiles and parolees from juvie prisons?

And why did you think it appropriate to keep Max from visiting his dying mother or attending her funeral?

[TheWho]

If you take a look at the time lines and occurances you will see that HLA is far safer than any other possible placement for children at risk.  HLA is much better prepared to react to attempted suicides than if the child was at home and the parents were at work or the child attempted suicide outside the home.  HLA keeps a close eye on the children.
 
The report shows that HLA is very transparent with their handling of problems that occur inside Boarding schools for troubled teens.  I dont think many private boarding schools could claim this.

This puts to rest any speculation as to secrecy and coverups that many posters here would say about HLA.  Try calling any of your private schools in your area and ask to see their report.

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It makes documentary evidence that HLA does indeed take suicidal kids, violent kids, sexual predators, pedophiles and rapists, all of which they deny doing.  Funny how that knife cuts both ways, huh?

I wonder how HLA's public statement that "We don't take violent kids" squares with what you just posted, Who?  How can outright lies be construed as "transparency"?  Whootie is pullin' a Palin on us I think.

Please explain how "lying to regulators and the public" = "transparency".  Thanks.

[Anonymous]

On the contrary, the ORS report and the GAO findings were notpositive in any light for Buccellato or HLA. The documents were not a positive reflection on LCSO, the ORS, or the GEORGIA GAO, who according to the Federal GAO agents, dropped the ball beyond belief and common decency.  Each and every agency protected themselves.  The only entities that did their job and worked endless hours, were the ORS investigative agents and they were lied to.  When one speaks with devastated, sobbing parents, then reads what the LCSO told the ORS agents, it is simply disgusting and egregious.  HLA was in over it's head, period.  Buccellato accepted children that were not acceptable to the program, it was not an asylum. Afterall, in it's inception it was an "Academic Boarding School with Special Purpose".  As the ORS stated, Buccellato's psychology license only allowed him to supervise three supervisees(counselors) and Buccellato was supervising twelve as there was no one licensed and Buccellato was never there. There was no one educated on staff to handle detox, pedophilia, sociopathy, schizophrenia, bulemia,incest, rape, and the list goes on.  That in itself is abusive, not to mention deplorable.  It is an an abuse of power,an ethical breach, and an abuse of the children in his care.  According to the Psychology Board, for the only three Supervisees, Buccellato was to be present for in-take - never was.  Plus, he signed off on the childrens counseling forms...and never saw the children.  DId the ORS take this and nine other violations to Georgia's Psychology Board to revoke Buccellato's license?  Doubtful.  In Georgia, every turn places one up against a brick wall, it is like an insulary, inbred family, run like the Mob.  When the LSCO states to the ORS that "it is very political and 'he' is very well connected in Atlanta"  that pretty well spells it out. The Federal GAO agents knew it, but as they stated, they had no arrest or prosecutorial authority. Did they make recommendations for further investigation?  They will not disclose.

It is your 1st Amendment Right to sit and pontificate about something you truly know nothing about... however, a 'just 'man is not blinded by the arm of evil...unless one is on the 'payroll'.

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On the contrary, the ORS report and the GAO findings were notpositive in any light for Buccellato or HLA. The documents were not a positive reflection on LCSO, the ORS, or the GEORGIA GAO, who according to the Federal GAO agents, dropped the ball beyond belief and common decency.  Each and every agency protected themselves.  The only entities that did their job and worked endless hours, were the ORS investigative agents and they were lied to.  When one speaks with devastated, sobbing parents, then reads what the LCSO told the ORS agents, it is simply disgusting and egregious.  HLA was in over it's head, period.  Buccellato accepted children that were not acceptable to the program, it was not an asylum. Afterall, in it's inception it was an "Academic Boarding School with Special Purpose".  As the ORS stated, Buccellato's psychology license only allowed him to supervise three supervisees(counselors) and Buccellato was supervising twelve as there was no one licensed and Buccellato was never there. There was no one educated on staff to handle detox, pedophilia, sociopathy, schizophrenia, bulemia,incest, rape, and the list goes on.  That in itself is abusive, not to mention deplorable.  It is an an abuse of power,an ethical breach, and an abuse of the children in his care.  According to the Psychology Board, for the only three Supervisees, Buccellato was to be present for in-take - never was.  Plus, he signed off on the childrens counseling forms...and never saw the children.  DId the ORS take this and nine other violations to Georgia's Psychology Board to revoke Buccellato's license?  Doubtful.  In Georgia, every turn places one up against a brick wall, it is like an insulary, inbred family, run like the Mob.  When the LSCO states to the ORS that "it is very political and 'he' is very well connected in Atlanta"  that pretty well spells it out. The Federal GAO agents knew it, but as they stated, they had no arrest or prosecutorial authority. Did they make recommendations for further investigation?  They will not disclose.

It is your 1st Amendment Right to sit and pontificate about something you truly know nothing about... however, a 'just 'man is not blinded by the arm of evil...unless one is on the 'payroll'.

I think Jill Ryan's boot is so far up Whooties ass that he tastes the shoe polish.