John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA

[TheWho]

Seems mister Bruce has some splanin to do.  Where is the abuse evidence and the arson evidence?

Hmmmm.....

[RobertBruce]

Evidence of abuse? It's in the mail Peter. Or didnt you hear about that HLA chose to settle with us rather then face and lose and lengthy and costly court battle in which even more dirty laundry was set to be aired.

Even if that somehow wasn't enough can you explain why not just former inmates, but parents, and former staff members, covering a 14 year period are all saying abuse is rampant there, and citing specific examples of it.

I wonder what you personally consider abuse though. I am genuinely interested to know.

As to the fire, I actually never claimed it was arson, nor did I insinuate as much. I do find it odd though that not only did numerous records which Len was being hounded for disappear in the fire, but the chapel fund somehow did as well. What are your thoughts on that?

Also on a side note Ginger has offered to verify for you whether or not I am guest posting (I'm not). Any specific post you'd like to attribute to me before she enlightens you?

[Anonymous]

Evidence of abuse? It's in the mail Peter. Or didnt you hear about that HLA chose to settle with us rather then face and lose and lengthy and costly court battle in which even more dirty laundry was set to be aired.

Even if that somehow wasn't enough can you explain why not just former inmates, but parents, and former staff members, covering a 14 year period are all saying abuse is rampant there, and citing specific examples of it.

I wonder what you personally consider abuse though. I am genuinely interested to know.

As to the fire, I actually never claimed it was arson, nor did I insinuate as much. I do find it odd though that not only did numerous records which Len was being hounded for disappear in the fire, but the chapel fund somehow did as well. What are your thoughts on that?

Also on a side note Ginger has offered to verify for you whether or not I am guest posting (I'm not). Any specific post you'd like to attribute to me before she enlightens you?

...that muffled silence is the sound of a program pimp named peter trying to think his way out of his ass.

[TheWho]

So out of almost 3,000 pages not one mention of abuse?
Another note that was overlooked:

So when we read that the posters here have evidence that the owner burned his own place down. Why didnt they call the police or tip off the insurance company?
Reason: Because if it wasnt true they would be sued for slander.

So based on that evidence how many of the other posts( which serve to discredit HLA) are fabricated as well? Why would a poster stop with just accusing HLA of arson.. why not rape and abuse?

[TheWho]

FYI to everyone -  a legal complaint does not make its accusations a fact.  The e-mail contents of one person does not make the contents fact.  Both have written rebuttals. Where are the rebuttals, here?  Fornits is famous for quoting one side of an arguement, using hearsay as fact, or using other hearsay websites as sources of evidence. Be forewarned, don't expect good critical analyses on a Fornits website.

Good point, this should be considered when reading posts here on the web too.

[RobertBruce]

So out of almost 3,000 pages not one mention of abuse?
Another note that was overlooked:

So when we read that the posters here have evidence that the owner burned his own place down. Why didnt they call the police or tip off the insurance company?
Reason: Because if it wasnt true they would be sued for slander.

So based on that evidence how many of the other posts( which serve to discredit HLA) are fabricated as well? Why would a poster stop with just accusing HLA of arson.. why not rape and abuse?

Peter, why the hesistancy to answer a simple question. What do you consider abuse?

[TheWho]

Also on a side note Ginger has offered to verify for you whether or not I am guest posting (I'm not). Any specific post you'd like to attribute to me before she enlightens you?

As she goes thru them she will also notice that the majority of my posts are "Guest" posts since Ursus took over my account.  I am not posting as "TheWho" as you would like everyone to believe.

[Anonymous]

I have no problem sharing these docs where public figures are concerned.  As far as I am concerned, let the chips fall on them all, although it has been very apparent in Georgia, that shall never be the case.   However, since there is privileged information( ORS missed um-teen redactions of minors names on private medical and counseling forms, incident reports, etc., which in itself is egregious ) regarding minors and also staff S.S #'s, addresses etc. -  there I have a problem.  Email me.



Also, regarding the fire at HLA...the school building did not just burn down to the ground, it was "obliterated", almost like an implosion, as the plants were left in tact.  The fire Marshall (one may call him) stated there was nothing left to determine how it burned....which, again, in itself, was highly unusual for a school fire.  

With regard to abuse, abuse comes in many forms and disguises. Attempting to diminish what was essentially 'allowed' to transpire exhibits a total lack of respect for the victims of HLA.

[RobertBruce]

As she goes thru them she will also notice that the majority of my posts are "Guest" posts since Ursus took over my account. I am not posting as "TheWho" as you would like everyone to believe

I never claimed you were currently posting as "TheWho", you lost that ability months ago. You however routinely address guest posters as if they are me. You have claimed that I systematically "attack from the shadows". I'm giving you a chance right now to prove it. Pick any guest post from the last 60 days you think is me ,and Ginger will verify whether it is or isnt me. Not to spoil it, but it isnt. After that you will make good on your earlier promises.

[TheWho]

As she goes thru them she will also notice that the majority of my posts are "Guest" posts since Ursus took over my account. I am not posting as "TheWho" as you would like everyone to believe

I never claimed you were currently posting as "TheWho", you lost that ability months ago. You however routinely address guest posters as if they are me. You have claimed that I systematically "attack from the shadows". I'm giving you a chance right now to prove it. Pick any guest post from the last 60 days you think is me ,and Ginger will verify whether it is or isnt me. Not to spoil it, but it isnt. After that you will make good on your earlier promises.

Bruce, I think you had too much wine.  It is you who thinks all the attacks against you were from me.  But it seems there are many posters who feel about you as I do.  I am not one to go back and look at old posts,  There are no specifics I am interested in.

I would like to get to the bottom of this arson problem and allegations of abuse which failed to materialize.  Seems there are stories floating around that this occured at HLA but the evidence says otherwise.  There are posters who are not being very truthful.

[Anonymous]

BUT MAYBE IF I PRETEND HARD ENOUGH

I CAN TURN EVERYONE AGAINST HIM

[RobertBruce]

Bruce, I think you had too much wine. It is you who thinks all the attacks against you were from me. But it seems there are many posters who feel about you as I do. I am not one to go back and look at old posts, There are no specifics I am interested in

Nope, nothing to drink for me last night. To answer your question I would say it appears you're doing a little back peddaling again. You actually thought I was lying about guest posting, and now that you're about to be proven wrong, you claim you're no longer interested? Come on Peter, at least stand a little bit of your ground. As for attacks, I've never claimed you, or anyone else has attacked me, mostly because I know you arent capable of such a feat. What I have done is responded to your comments. You on the other hand have claimed to have been attacked, and often claim it is me guest posting. Look, this is just one page back.

Z
Guest wrote:

Jill Ryan wrote:
These documents will provide answers to what you are asking of Robert and confirm what Robert states...

I see...So it has been TheWho lying for some four plus years and NOT Robert after all.

Shame on you, Who, for lying about HLA and about RobertBruce. TheWho is a liar. And he's caught again. And Robert is vindicated (again).

Oh come on Bruce log-in, quit trolling again.
 

So come on Peter, its clear you felt it was me all along. Now's your chance. Pick a guest post you think is mine and we can clear it up right now.

[RobertBruce]

I would like to get to the bottom of this arson problem and allegations of abuse which failed to materialize. Seems there are stories floating around that this occured at HLA but the evidence says otherwise. There are posters who are not being very truthful

Well you've yet to answer the question: What do you consider to be abuse.

As to other allegations, things you're already aware of, and have been verified by programmies of HLA have been the starvation diet on restrictions, and work assignment details. Just because you dont believe them doesnt make it false Peter.

[Troll Control]

I have no problem sharing these docs where public figures are concerned.  As far as I am concerned, let the chips fall on them all, although it has been very apparent in Georgia, that shall never be the case.   However, since there is privileged information( ORS missed um-teen redactions of minors names on private medical and counseling forms, incident reports, etc., which in itself is egregious ) regarding minors and also staff S.S #'s, addresses etc. -  there I have a problem.  Email me.



Also, regarding the fire at HLA...the school building did not just burn down to the ground, it was "obliterated", almost like an implosion, as the plants were left in tact.  The fire Marshall (one may call him) stated there was nothing left to determine how it burned....which, again, in itself, was highly unusual for a school fire.  

With regard to abuse, abuse comes in many forms and disguises. Attempting to diminish what was essentially 'allowed' to transpire exhibits a total lack of respect for the victims of HLA.

So now TheWho claims Jill, Robert, DJ and host of other people with experience surrounding HLA, the Lumpkin County Sherriff's Office, Emergency Responders and ORS are all lying about suicide attempts, assaults, sexual assaults and various and sundry other emergencies including a "Life Flight' MedEvac of a girl who hung herself at HLA?  Wow, Who, you've really slipped the tracks.

I also see that after you pounded RB for months about guest posts (of which he actually made zero) now you don't want to follow up when Ginger says she'll accommodate your request.  Tsk, tsk, tsk.  Showing your weakness again, pipsqueak...

I thought slavery was illegal, but RB owns TheWho, period.

[TheWho]

Well you've yet to answer the question: What do you consider to be abuse.

As to other allegations, things you're already aware of, and have been verified by programmies of HLA have been the starvation diet on restrictions, and work assignment details. Just because you dont believe them doesnt make it false Peter.

Out of the almost 3,000 pages on HLA there are documented suicide attempts, run aways , all their 911 calls but there hasn’t been any abuse.  Why is that?
Your word doesn’t count, Bruce because it has already been established that you do not tell the truth.
Let me ask you something.  If posters like yourself come onto fornits and make up stories about the owner burning down buildings in an attempt to discredit the place why would they stop at that.  Why not say HLA tried to starve them to death or work them to death? Or abuse them like you would have readers believe.  Where are the police reports which support this so called abuse.  I didnt see the report mention starvation attempts and excessive labor.

As far as your posts are concerned.  Just let us know when you have them all linked together.  The only reason you would not have this done is if you had something to hide.  I have done it a few times.  If you are honest like I am then just have it done.  We will take a look at them then.