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« on: August 15, 2003, 07:29:00 PM »
After WWASP, was your child referred to a another program by PURE?
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2003, 08:54:00 PM »
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-17 16:04 ]
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2003, 08:56:00 PM »
You won't get an honest answer from her.  She said she had never heard of PURE when she removed her kid from Dundee Ranch.  Only she and PURE know what the truth is.  She's made a big stink out of someone from WWASPS contacting her with regard to the PURE tactics and denied even knowing them.  She's probably too embarassed at her gullability to admit to what really happened.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2003, 09:06:00 PM »
If only she and PURE know, how can you claim she is being dishonest???????????
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2003, 09:21:00 PM »
I know the truth.  I just wanted to see if she would admit to it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2003, 09:35:00 PM »
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On 2003-08-15 17:56:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Only she and PURE know what the truth is."


So that would make you PURE????????
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2003, 12:56:00 PM »
Karen, you said you didn't know if you were on the list of PURE parent volunteers or not but your name is definitly no longer there.

Is this some kind of a joke?
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2003, 04:32:00 PM »
Karen - you have a home visit with your son, that's wonderful!  Maybe he'd like to share?
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2003, 07:49:00 PM »
I assume that you moved him out of wwasp to a non-confrontational program that has capable staff and appropriate licenses?
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2003, 08:12:00 PM »
Karen, I'm glad to hear your son is home. Glad to hear he's able to make up some time with old friends. Good ones or bad ones, we all need our old friends to help us keep perspective on things. Anyway, he'll be in our thoughts as well as your whole family.

Sorry he had such a rough trip, but then travel is always an adventure.

As much as I'd love to hear from the kid and see what he's got to say, I wouldn't ask it of him. For one, if you're still drinking the kool aid, he'd be like a cat walking the fence between two yards full of junkyard dogs trying to figure out what to say so that something bad doesn't happen. I still remember my requisite away trip on 5th phase at Straight. It was wonderful to see my brother, to be out of the hell place for awhile and all that. But it was also nerve racking because I couldn't let it show too much, for fear of my mother (spy for the Program) taking it as criticizm  of the Program, therefore manipulation, and reporting me.

Wicked men obey from fear, good men from love.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2003, 12:13:00 PM »
Antigen - I never really got a good swig of the Kool Aid. I have been completely free of it for a year now.
Its the others here, calling everyone and their brother liars, I don't like the idea of him having to deal with. He has grown accustomed to being trusted and believed. I'll ask him tho if he wants to take a look, and consider chiming in.

FaceKhan - He is no longer In a program. But the one I transferred him to was so different from what you think of as a program - the word hardly fits. He was offered the opportunity to return as an employee, and thats why he is living out of town. This 'program' is voluntary - the kid has to willingly attend. The kids can call home at will - and parents and family can visit at will. Its very small by industry standards, and is operated in the 'family style.'
The one positive thing we got from Dundee was an abundance of letters begging me to find something else - anything else - which was taken as a willingness to attend by the program I moved him to. That was a year ago - and I am so glad. For us, our family, it has been a real blessing.

Antigen - I know what you mean about friends. One thing I noticed while on the BBS, was how lonely the grads were. Parents would post - she/he is doing well - but so lonely. The kids would post how lonely they were. I never wanted Nathan to feel that way.  There are people I have advised him it would be wise to avoid - but he has two good friends who wouldn?t make the grade by ?Program? standards, that I think will be good friends anyway.  I trust them to be a friend, and not encourage him to partake of what they know is devastating for him.  So far, so good.
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2003, 03:39:00 PM »
Karen Z., are you saying you referred kids into Abundant Life Academy (the same faith-based program you placed your own son in) but that since their parents begged you for assistance, these kids transferred into ALA "willingly"?  

How stupid do you think people are to buy into such flagrant B.S.?

Especially in light of your own (albeit forced) admission that the website you "manage" under the auspices of **donating** your time and resources as "professional parent" is in fact, registered to the owner of Abundant Life Academy?

Second, since your son is now an employee of Abundant Life Academy, doesn't it stand to reason that your promotion of this program could be viewed as a veritable CONFLICT OF INTEREST?

Wise up Karen and quit using this forum to advance your quasi-referral business at the expense of vulnerable parents and children.


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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2003, 03:44:00 PM »
Ginger, sorry about the dupicate post wasting valuable space.  It was an error.  Please feel free to edit as you wish.
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2003, 04:34:00 PM »
Would you READ a post before popping off about it.
I was only talking about MY kid. MY kid begged for an alternitive.

As for what I promote - I don't consider anything I do promoting. When the situation seems to fit - a boy having problems, a Christian family, a willingness to attend, I will mention them as a possible option. Its seldome that I do so.

As for the web site - That has been talked over and disected several times already.

I don't use this forum to advance my quasi anything. Its you jokers who keep harping on about it.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2003, 04:38:00 PM »
Anon you can edit your own post. Scroll to the bottom of the message and click "edit". You must enter your ID and password.
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