« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2   Go Down

Author Topic: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..  (Read 4288 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« on: June 22, 2009, 09:49:42 PM »
Quote
ME:
Did you do the ropes course?

XXXXXXXX:

yes I did

ME:

can you describe how that worked?

XXXXXXXX:

yeah

They had us get in a line silently. They picked their favorites first. Then if we got scared or said we were done. They would say we had to do more or it was regroup.

Then if you didn't cheer the others on. You would get on regroup and you could not leave the area

ME:

So you didn't have a choice about doing the ropes course, it was do it or get in trouble?

XXXXXXX:

Yes

ME:

What kind of regroups did you have to do?

XXXXXX:

I had to pick up hole punched dots on the ground and move them from cup to cup. With out stopping

I had to clean bathroom without gloves

dust fake plants

umm...pick up crumbs off the floor with my hands

scrub the floor with a toothbrush

scrub the floor

with a rag

ME:

this was for Ropes course?

XXXXXXXX:

umm well regroup was the same no matter what you did

ME:

 Did regroup feel like a chance to reflect on the problem or did it feel like something else?

XXXXXX:

felt like a punishment Couldn't talk

couldn't even ask for the bathroom

They would tell you when you could go

to the bathroom

ME:

What did you do if you had to use the bathroom?

XXXXXXX:

You waited until they told you that you could go


ME:

you ever experience any pain or discomfort for having to wait for permission to use the bathroom?

XXXXXXX:

umm yes

ME:

and did you ever try to ask to go even though you knew you weren't supposed to?

XXXXXXXX:

Yes and I got rrestrained

ME:

For asking to use the bathroom, you got restrained?

XXXXXXX:

yes they did not like me questioning authority


ME:

Did you try to hurt yourself, hurt anyone else before this restraint?

XXXXXXXX:

no

well for other things

but not this

ME:

Ok.. so back to ropes course..

XXXXXXX:

okay

ME:

Did you have to complete ropes course to advance in CALO's program?

XXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

So it wasn't voluntary, you couldn't choose not to do it, and if you didn't do it you couldn't advance?

XXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

And if you got scared and stopped you'd get punished with a regroup?

XXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

Did anyone ever get restrained at the Ropes Course?

XXXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

Were they trying to hurt themselves or anyone else?

XXXXXXXX:

nope not all of the time

ME:

Do you think you got anything out of CALO's ropes course?

XXXXXXXX:

Nah not really

ME:

Did you see Ken Huey ever restrain a resident?

XXXXXXX:

 a few

ME:

So a few people?

XXXXXX:

yes

ME:

Were they trying to hurt themselves or another?

XXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

Were they ever not trying to hurt themselves or another?

XXXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

And you saw Ken Huey try to restrain them?

XXXXXXX:

yes

he usually took over a restraint

for another staff

ME:

Did these restraints appear to be painful?

XXXXXX:

yes

most staff restrained kids painfully

ME:

Did the people being restrained ever beg staff to stop?

XXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

How did the staff respond?

XXXXXX:

they would either yell, cuss

or put them on regroup

rarely did they let them go

unless authority gave approval

ME:

Ok.. that's all I have time for now, do you mind if I edit this intertiew for grammar, spelling, and to protect your identity?

XXXXXXXX:

Yes

ME:

Do you give me permission to post this interview, in editted form, on a public forum on the internet?

XXXXXXXXX:

yes if NO ONE knows its me

ME:

Your name will never be uttered from my lips or fingertips.

thanks, I'll get this fixed up and posted. You've been a great help.

XXXXXXXXX:

okay thank you

sure thing

thanks

ME:

bye!

XXXXXXX:

bye

This interview has been editted to protect the identity of the survivor and the interviewer.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged

Offline FemanonFatal2.0

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 548
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2009, 10:00:52 PM »
Thank you, both to the poster and the survivor. I hope you know this will help us greatly in being able to make a difference.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged
[size=150]When Injustice Becomes Law
...Rebellion Becomes Duty...[/size]



[size=150]WHEN THE RAPTURE COMES
CAN I HAVE YOUR FLAT SCREEN?[/size]

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2009, 10:22:18 PM »
Thank YOU
for your honesty and brave approach to the horrific
ways you young adults were being treated .
You are the reason I am here and so many others
OUR POWERS  will NOT let you down .
THERE is NO shame to just come forward
with the truth .( your identity is UN-IMPORTANT at this point )
This place is  built on  No compassion for a human -being .
There WAS A TIME when no-one
would listen or believe you
I am here to tell you that time is EXPIRED .


Thanks also to you Femanon for going the distance .
Also to others here who know how it feels to be
treated like less then a human being .

TO the individual who has told this true story ,
YOU are never going to be alone , there will always be good caring people
here for you to share and talk openly ( privately ), and freely  about anything
your little heart desires.

You have a GOOD heart and are a GOOD person .

I can only say I am sorry you ever had to be in a place like this  :rose:
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2009, 07:50:54 PM »
Real nice guy, that Ken Huey.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2009, 01:25:47 AM »
:bump:
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2009, 10:24:14 AM »
Quote from: "Sum Ting Wong"
Quote
ME:
Did you do the ropes course?

XXXXXXXX:
yes I did

ME:
can you describe how that worked?

XXXXXXXX:
yeah
They had us get in a line silently. They picked their favorites first. Then if we got scared or said we were done. They would say we had to do more or it was regroup.
Then if you didn't cheer the others on. You would get on regroup and you could not leave the area

ME:
So you didn't have a choice about doing the ropes course, it was do it or get in trouble?

XXXXXXX:
Yes

ME:
What kind of regroups did you have to do?

XXXXXX:
I had to pick up hole punched dots on the ground and move them from cup to cup. With out stopping
I had to clean bathroom without gloves
dust fake plants
umm...pick up crumbs off the floor with my hands
scrub the floor with a toothbrush
scrub the floor
with a rag

ME:
this was for Ropes course?

XXXXXXXX:
umm well regroup was the same no matter what you did

ME:
Did regroup feel like a chance to reflect on the problem or did it feel like something else?

XXXXXX:
felt like a punishment Couldn't talk
couldn't even ask for the bathroom
They would tell you when you could go
to the bathroom

ME:
What did you do if you had to use the bathroom?

XXXXXXX:
You waited until they told you that you could go

ME:
you ever experience any pain or discomfort for having to wait for permission to use the bathroom?

XXXXXXX:
umm yes

ME:
and did you ever try to ask to go even though you knew you weren't supposed to?

XXXXXXXX:
Yes and I got rrestrained

ME:
For asking to use the bathroom, you got restrained?

XXXXXXX:
yes they did not like me questioning authority

ME:
Did you try to hurt yourself, hurt anyone else before this restraint?

XXXXXXXX:
no
well for other things
but not this

ME:
Ok.. so back to ropes course..

XXXXXXX:
okay

ME:
Did you have to complete ropes course to advance in CALO's program?

XXXXXXX:
yes

ME:
So it wasn't voluntary, you couldn't choose not to do it, and if you didn't do it you couldn't advance?

XXXXXXX:
yes

ME:
And if you got scared and stopped you'd get punished with a regroup?

XXXXXXX:
yes

ME:
Did anyone ever get restrained at the Ropes Course?

XXXXXXXX:
yes

ME:
Were they trying to hurt themselves or anyone else?

XXXXXXXX:
nope not all of the time

ME:
Do you think you got anything out of CALO's ropes course?

XXXXXXXX:
Nah not really

ME:
Did you see Ken Huey ever restrain a resident?

XXXXXXX:
a few

ME:
So a few people?

XXXXXX:
yes

ME:
Were they trying to hurt themselves or another?

XXXXXXX:
yes

ME:
Were they ever not trying to hurt themselves or another?

XXXXXXXX:
yes

ME:
And you saw Ken Huey try to restrain them?

XXXXXXX:
yes
he usually took over a restraint
for another staff

ME:
Did these restraints appear to be painful?

XXXXXX:
yes
most staff restrained kids painfully

ME:
Did the people being restrained ever beg staff to stop?

XXXXXXX:
yes

ME:
How did the staff respond?

XXXXXX:
they would either yell, cuss
or put them on regroup
rarely did they let them go
unless authority gave approval

ME:
Ok.. that's all I have time for now, do you mind if I edit this intertiew for grammar, spelling, and to protect your identity?

XXXXXXXX:
Yes

ME:
Do you give me permission to post this interview, in editted form, on a public forum on the internet?

XXXXXXXXX:
yes if NO ONE knows its me

ME:
Your name will never be uttered from my lips or fingertips.
thanks, I'll get this fixed up and posted. You've been a great help.

XXXXXXXXX:
okay thank you
sure thing
thanks

ME:
bye!

XXXXXXX:
bye

This interview has been editted to protect the identity of the survivor and the interviewer.

Can anyone explain to me what the avowed purpose of "REGROUP" is? This description sounds more like a punitive routine, maybe even a punitive "time-out," than anything else...
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged

Offline Che Gookin

  • Global Moderator
  • Newbie
  • *****
  • Posts: 4241
  • Karma: +11/-3
    • View Profile
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2009, 10:19:41 PM »
Regroup is where a kid is made to do some pointless work project until staff believes they are ready, willing, and are demonstrating the proper levels of obedience.

Oddly enough I'm reminded of dog training when I think of Regroup.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged

Offline Ursus

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 8989
  • Karma: +3/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2009, 03:07:45 AM »
Quote from: "Che Gookin"
Oddly enough I'm reminded of dog training when I think of Regroup.

Oddly enough, "Regroup" rhymes with "re-poop," which certainly also happens a lot at CALO, according to the CALO Coach's Handbook! Given the vast number of times per day those dogs get marched out to do their binnis, I'm surprised there's anything left to their intestinal fortitude.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged
-------------- • -------------- • --------------

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2009, 06:10:32 PM »
Quote
XXXXXXXX:

yeah

They had us get in a line silently. They picked their favorites first. Then if we got scared or said we were done. They would say we had to do more or it was regroup.

Then if you didn't cheer the others on. You would get on regroup and you could not leave the area

Quote from: "Ken Huey"
No, we do not use provoking techniques meant to force a teen to attach with us.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2009, 01:07:19 AM »
khuey@ca-lo.com  > Ken Huey's e-mail address
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2009, 01:20:46 AM »
We've got CALO fans on the board again.

Ba-ba-bump!
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged

Offline CALO Student #17

  • Posts: 25
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2009, 11:41:03 AM »
Haha, by reading this, I have a pretty good idea of who the student was.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged

Offline Che Gookin

  • Global Moderator
  • Newbie
  • *****
  • Posts: 4241
  • Karma: +11/-3
    • View Profile
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 11:45:26 AM »
Welcome to fornits.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged

Offline psy

  • Administrator
  • Newbie
  • *****
  • Posts: 5606
  • Karma: +2/-0
    • View Profile
    • http://homepage.mac.com/psyborgue/
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2009, 11:51:58 AM »
Quote from: "CALO Student #17"
Haha, by reading this, I have a pretty good idea of who the student was.
Welcome to Fornits.  You might find this post by Ken Huey interesting (he posts a fair bit in that thread but is eventually more or less run off):
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=27962&p=337145

How was your experience at CALO?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged
Benchmark Young Adult School - bad place [archive.org link]
Sue Scheff Truth - Blog on Sue Scheff
"Our services are free; we do not make a profit. Parents of troubled teens ourselves, PURE strives to create a safe haven of truth and reality." - Sue Scheff - August 13th, 2007 (fukkin surreal)

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Re: Brief Interview with a CALO survivor..
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2009, 12:06:02 PM »
I just found this video of a CALO alumni being interviewed by the local news.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD5sahXoj0U
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Logged
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up
« previous next »