Want to Change the Forum's Policy about Posting??

[Anonymous]

Many who visit this site have expressed their disgust and concern about posting children's names and personal information on the forum (I'm referring to the list of CALO kids.) IMHO this would also apply to listing the names, addresses and phone numbers of CALO parents.

I might suggest contacting the site owner, GInger McNulty, personally in order to discuss those concerns and to give voice to your feelings. As best as I can tell, here are her phone numbers:  724.797.2672  and 724.269.7172.
Correct me if I'm wrong somebody, but her address would be: 459 S Otter St, Mercer, PA 16137-1511 - I am sure she would welcome correspondence, if she can't be reached by phone. (If you want to visit, however, you should probably make an appointment.)

[Anonymous]

Hello and welcome to Things That Cannot Possibly Work! On this episode, we'll discover why attempting to engage in a personal-information war against an anarchist webmaster and a loose cabal of mostly-anonymous vengeance afficionados cannot possibly work, and will become very counterproductive very quickly. Stay tuned for more!

[Anonymous]

Hello and welcome to Things That Cannot Possibly Work! On this episode, we'll discover why attempting to engage in a personal-information war against an anarchist webmaster and a loose cabal of mostly-anonymous vengeance afficionados cannot possibly work, and will become very counterproductive very quickly. Stay tuned for more!

you are hilarious

[Anonymous]

Hello and welcome to Things That Cannot Possibly Work! On this episode, we'll discover why attempting to engage in a personal-information war against an anarchist webmaster and a loose cabal of mostly-anonymous vengeance afficionados cannot possibly work, and will become very counterproductive very quickly. Stay tuned for more!

you are hilarious

[Anonymous]

Many who visit this site have expressed their disgust and concern about posting children's names and personal information on the forum (I'm referring to the list of CALO kids.) IMHO this would also apply to listing the names, addresses and phone numbers of CALO parents.

I might suggest contacting the site owner, GInger McNulty, personally in order to discuss those concerns and to give voice to your feelings. As best as I can tell, here are her phone numbers:  724.797.2672  and 724.269.7172.
Correct me if I'm wrong somebody, but her address would be: 459 S Otter St, Mercer, PA 16137-1511 - I am sure she would welcome correspondence, if she can't be reached by phone. (If you want to visit, however, you should probably make an appointment.

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[psy]

Many who visit this site have expressed their disgust and concern about posting children's names and personal information on the forum (I'm referring to the list of CALO kids.) IMHO this would also apply to listing the names, addresses and phone numbers of CALO parents.

I might suggest contacting the site owner, GInger McNulty, personally in order to discuss those concerns and to give voice to your feelings. As best as I can tell, here are her phone numbers:  724.797.2672  and 724.269.7172.
Correct me if I'm wrong somebody, but her address would be: 459 S Otter St, Mercer, PA 16137-1511 - I am sure she would welcome correspondence, if she can't be reached by phone. (If you want to visit, however, you should probably make an appointment.)

I'm sure Ginger would be happy to explain the rules she has made. At first I thought there was little sense to the extreme, but I think if you hear her out you might change your mind.

Let's flip the tables here.  What If I said that what you were doing was a veiled threat and thus somehow illegal?  Would you feel offended?  Do you feel I have a right to remove your words without you having your due process?  No. It's not right.  Where and how does one draw the line before fear of "illegal" overcomes and turns into "anything that could possibly offend somebody" (everything).

PS: the above guest is incorrect: she is libertarian, more or less, and not an anarchist.  There must be rules.  There must be a system.  Fornits is very much built on and run by rules.  Rule of law that does not change, like a constitution.  If it was anarchy, moderators would delete posts at will and control the dialogue, but that's not the case.

[Antigen]

Yes, that's my number but please don't blow it up till after 7P or on the weekend. That's not my address, though.

And anon poster is mostly right. This policy has been in place for a long time and with good reason. I'm not about to change it. If I did intervene on behalf of one or another party in these cases then I would be responsible to intervene on behalf of others in similar situations. If that were the case this would no longer be an open, unmoderated forum (and I think there's a definite need for at least one on this topic on this planet) and I'd have to draw a lot more money to run this thing and staff it with people to keep a vigilant eye on what would be our new liability.

No spanks, Spanky!

[Anonymous]

Many who visit this site have expressed their disgust and concern about posting children's names and personal information on the forum (I'm referring to the list of CALO kids.) IMHO this would also apply to listing the names, addresses and phone numbers of CALO parents.

I might suggest contacting the site owner, GInger McNulty, personally in order to discuss those concerns and to give voice to your feelings. As best as I can tell, here are her phone numbers:  724.797.2672  and 724.269.7172.
Correct me if I'm wrong somebody, but her address would be: 459 S Otter St, Mercer, PA 16137-1511 - I am sure she would welcome correspondence, if she can't be reached by phone. (If you want to visit, however, you should probably make an appointment.)

You guys are rattled by your names getting posted, Ginger is not. Why? You guys are ASHAMED of being connected to what you do. Ginger is not

[Troll Control]

Many who visit this site have expressed their disgust and concern about posting children's names and personal information on the forum (I'm referring to the list of CALO kids.) IMHO this would also apply to listing the names, addresses and phone numbers of CALO parents.

I might suggest contacting the site owner, GInger McNulty, personally in order to discuss those concerns and to give voice to your feelings. As best as I can tell, here are her phone numbers:  724.797.2672  and 724.269.7172.
Correct me if I'm wrong somebody, but her address would be: 459 S Otter St, Mercer, PA 16137-1511 - I am sure she would welcome correspondence, if she can't be reached by phone. (If you want to visit, however, you should probably make an appointment.)

You guys are rattled by your names getting posted, Ginger is not. Why? You guys are ASHAMED of being connected to what you do. Ginger is not

Spot fucking on.  Dead bang.

[TheWho]

Many who visit this site have expressed their disgust and concern about posting children's names and personal information on the forum (I'm referring to the list of CALO kids.) IMHO this would also apply to listing the names, addresses and phone numbers of CALO parents.

I have long been opposed to (and been very vocal about in the past) posting anyones personal information and photos on the web and feel that children are the most vulnerable when exploited in this fashion.  I realize that this is an open forum and needs to be in order to serve those who are posting and uphold freedom of speech etc. (and I do not advocate for deletion of posts of any kind) but what is often troubling is the ongoing support for exploiting children as a response to their disdain of programs by such posters as Dysfunction Junction and various guests.  This, to me, seems to be as dangerous and reckless as the programs you claim to be fighting against.
If we can just set an example or as a minimum discourage the use of children in the battle against programs here on fornits it would be a big step but it would take the support of some of the more frequent posters to move towards the type of culture I speak of which would put the safety of children and or their families ahead of any agenda.

My two scents.

[Anonymous]

Many who visit this site have expressed their disgust and concern about posting children's names and personal information on the forum (I'm referring to the list of CALO kids.) IMHO this would also apply to listing the names, addresses and phone numbers of CALO parents.

I have long been opposed to (and been very vocal about in the past) posting anyones personal information and photos on the web and feel that children are the most vulnerable when exploited in this fashion.  I realize that this is an open forum and needs to be in order to serve those who are posting and uphold freedom of speech etc. (and I do not advocate for deletion of posts of any kind) but what is often troubling is the ongoing support for exploiting children as a response to their disdain of programs by such posters as Dysfunction Junction and various guests.  This, to me, seems to be as dangerous and reckless as the programs you claim to be fighting against.
If we can just set an example or as a minimum discourage the use of children in the battle against programs here on fornits it would be a big step but it would take the support of some of the more frequent posters to move towards the type of culture I speak of which would put the safety of children and or their families ahead of any agenda.

My two scents.

LOL. What is interesting to me about your post is that DJ is a psych professional experienced at dealing with "troubled youth," and who yet advocates for their basic rights and dignity as human beings.

You, on the other hand, are a program parent who spends all of his time posting thousands of posts ridiculing kids when the abuse they have suffered is too extreme for you ......yet you claim to be on the higher ground when it comes to the "exploitation of kids" issue.



Gimmeee a fucking break!

[TheWho]

LOL. What is interesting to me about your post is that DJ is a psych professional experienced at dealing with "troubled youth," and who yet advocates for their basic rights and dignity as human beings.

I actually doubt that.  If he were a professional he would be agreeing with the OP in trying to protect people and kids instead of advocating exploiting them here on fornits.
Speak to a few professionals and ask their opinion on posting kids names and photos on the web and after you hear their answer read DJ's post and decide for yourself if you believe he is a professional in this area.  Any professional worth their degree would be all over this instead of throwing gas on the fire.
You decide.

[Anonymous]

Fornits loves itself some 'reformed former program staff'... kind of like kids being abused at home telling you how great their dad is being, he only hits me three times a week. The 'survivors' who post here are pathetic. Everyone who posts here is beyond description, let's just say pathetic times a million.

[Anonymous]

Many who visit this site have expressed their disgust and concern about posting children's names and personal information on the forum (I'm referring to the list of CALO kids.) IMHO this would also apply to listing the names, addresses and phone numbers of CALO parents.

I might suggest contacting the site owner, GInger McNulty, personally in order to discuss those concerns and to give voice to your feelings. As best as I can tell, here are her phone numbers: 724.797.2672 and 724.269.7172.  Correct me if I'm wrong somebody, but her address would be: 459 S Otter St, Mercer, PA 16137-1511 - I am sure she would welcome correspondence, if she can't be reached by phone. (If you want to visit, however, you should probably make an appointment.

The real question is, "Why is CALO unable to keep children's personal files confidential?"  Therein lies a strong argument there was a breach of security amongst staff at CALO.  Their failure(s) to manage confidential information warrants serious concerns amongst parents.  In addition to, parents should seriously consider withdrawing their children in lieu of this problem.

[Troll Control]

LOL. What is interesting to me about your post is that DJ is a psych professional experienced at dealing with "troubled youth," and who yet advocates for their basic rights and dignity as human beings.

I actually doubt that.  If he were a professional he would be agreeing with the OP in trying to protect people and kids instead of advocating exploiting them here on fornits.
Speak to a few professionals and ask their opinion on posting kids names and photos on the web and after you hear their answer read DJ's post and decide for yourself if you believe he is a professional in this area.  Any professional worth their degree would be all over this instead of throwing gas on the fire.
You decide.

I never weighed in on the appropriateness of posting kids' names on the internet.  I support "well proxied" in his/her fighting back against people who have done him/her harm.  And s/he does it with vigor.  Ultimately, as I stated before, it's CALO's fault for putting patient data in unsecured areas.  That's the plain and simple fact of the matter.  CALO can't create monsters and then be upset when they run amok.

And, the other poster is correct.  I was a therapist (BA- Psy, BA - Soc, MSW) for many years specializing in juvenile delinquency and early childhood development and worked at Hidden Lake Academy and Daytop, so I have a pretty good idea of how these places harm children, IMHO.