Nope got it wrong read the entire article and double check the link and read "Help at any Cost."
This by no means was the only "hate" taught at Straight, Incorporated, so chill and allow
http://www.orangetoiletnews.com to complete it's reference library, continue our stories about Straight, Growning Together, S.A.F.E. and other organizations such.
Thank you Brill
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When you are ready to spend your own money and time like I have to complete the Straight, Incorporated story and others. I would suggest before you jump the "gun" carefully read what I wrote.
The scope was not limited. You took it that way.
Brill
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Brill
People have this idea that I, or anyone else of survivor status need to buy (or purchase) anything to know about Straight Inc. "Help at anyCost" has been around for some time now (which I refused to purchase or buy). I ask you, does a survivor of the titanic tragedy need to be informed of the fact that the boat sunk. Do victims of the holocaust need be shown how concentration camps work?
Brill, have you been in Straight Inc? Has the author of "Help at any cost" been thru Straight Inc.? Have you shaken the hand of Mel Sembler, like a lil brown shirt Hitler Youth shaking the hand of ther Adolf Hitler?
The difference in our writting and "my efforts"/"your efforts" is I have first hand experiance, I was there, I have the scares to prove it, I have the destroyed family to prove it.
A side, note...I clicked your link to the toliet. I read the writting that I copy/pasted above. It was my assumption this was your writting...Help at any Cost, to my understanding, is not your writting. Now moments ago, I clicked, again to the toilet, and I saw the web finger over the heading...ahhh, a hyper link...I clicked again and on the page looks familiar.
"Sembler’s Straight Inc. taught HATE!17th
Jun. × ’09By Brill Smith
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Straight Inc Founder and Operator Melvin Sembler
I can’t even imagine why a company such as Smith & Hawken would consider moving it’s headquarters from San Francisco to a Sembler project in Georgia?
Sembler’s Straight, Incorporated taught children and young adults to hate gays and lesbians. Check out the book by Maia Szalavitz “Help at any Cost.” Children and young adults were stood up in front of large groups of other children and ridiculed for gay or lesbian relations.
Smith & Hawke might seriously want to reconsider their move to Sembler’s side of the “fence.” You may reach their CEO Pat Farrah at 1-415-506-3700, ext 3941.
Copyright (C)"
Where is the full story??? Is this not what you wanted us to read?
And another thing.
You said this
"When you are ready to spend your own money and time like I have to complete the Straight, Incorporated story and others. I would suggest before you jump the "gun" carefully read what I wrote.
The scope was not limited. You took it that way."
Ready to spend my own money and time? Dude, do you have any idea that you are locking horns with a Straight Inc. survivor? Do you know how much money my parents spent to ensure that I spend the "time"
to "complete Straight Inc."? The time you have? Fuck you! I spent 3 years in the damn place 2 years after care or whatever....I spent the time, unlike you, will ever know or even understand. And why do I have to carefully read what you wrote....twice posted to understand what it was I actually experianced?
And do you realize that your twist, to throw it back in my face that indeed your scope in your "writtings" is limited and that I took it that way....Sounds like Straight Inc. twisting of words to cover up thier absolute inebtness...And now your gonna try the same word game.....Man, Brill you really are writting from the outside of the fish bowl....I consider it yet another slap in the face to all of us survivors. You write on speculation and conjecture. Your writting lacks wieght and depth in regard to Straight Inc. and the reason is simple. Your writting about the inside from the outside, without being on the inside.
I entertained your writting, I had felt slapped in the face...again I engage you and again I am slapped in the face. Why should I allow you 'time to complete your refernece libaries, continue your stories about Straight Inc. and the others". And "chill"....while I watch your feeble story telling skills and you continue to insult our experiance with ineptness...Like your story on the govenor being gay....so what? Even if he hid the fact of being gay......so the fuck what? (Isnt that a personal/private matter?) And how does that help the average everyday survivor and those that endure the continued abuses?
And in following your line of writting....you write of the govenor and sembler in the political bed together, then write about the govenor being gay, then write that Sembler taught hate towards gays....but majorly supported a closeted gay govenor? I admit the story is completely imcongruent and stinks of conspiracy probability. But you dont bring it together in a way that it makes any sense. Your little snippets ya call writting dont connect the dots.
I am telling you point blank...Your scope of understanding is limited, your agenda is unclear and your motive just as murky. Your not the first writer, story teller, TV producer to come thru here hand picking the information they want, so portray it as they wish.
I suspect I should be grateful that a person on the outside is writting about our experiance. Believe it or not, I am appreciative. Yet I am concerned with such a limited understanding of the reality of what happened to us and that which bleeds over to this day and as such your limited in your scope of understanding. You obviously have an agenda with Sembler, well and good...I suspect hundreds of others have an agenda with Sembler, each for different reasons. I got issues with Sembler, and you have issues with Sembler.
But knowing the Semblers and other members of the Sembler clan. Knowing some of the other members of the Board of Directors for Straight Inc., I know that your pithy snippets are glazed over as insignificant and are of no significant threat to Semblers name or reputation. Especially if the news bits are coming from a source known as the "organge toilet news". I understand the view point that Florida is besmirched with the likes of Sembler giving the entire state the odoriferious (sp) likeness of a "toilet", yet to call it such doesnt give your efforts alot of credibility. For example, "Oh wow, that very interesting info ya have on Sembler, where did you obtain this information?" "Oh, I read it on the orange toilet news" Ehhhhh, it doesnt really have the sound of being an authority on the subject. This is espcially true in the teasers you have on the front pages of the site. It seems virtually every topic written, reffers to other writers with your comments surrounding them.
You " suggest before you (I) jump the "gun" carefully read what I wrote." Well, I havent the time this morning to go over every article on your site...yet the ones I have seen give credit to other writers, other sources and then followed up with your editorial and comments. It is as if you scour the news with Sembler as the argument and pull each article you can find, credit the author and then add your comment and I am to take that as your effort to cover the news.
Sorry Brill, I see you as a news anchor, rather than a reporter or a writter. You find the news surrounding Sembler and you bring it to us...and not always in a timely manner (unless it suits your purpose) case in point is your article on the Josiah Wineberger case, which took place some time ago. Baynews 9 reported at x-mas time of this past year that the Semblers where withdrawing thier original offer and actually evicted the family of Josiah Wineberger from a hotel at or around x-mas eve...It's old news and yet you report it on the 19th of June 09. Here is a story written in 2005
http://www.alternet.org/story/27725/?page=entire about Sembler. Read this article and report it...it is old news but a fascinating article of the opulence of the Semblers, ya might have something to say about that, and add it to "your writtings".
The subject of a vast majority of your writtings revolve around the Semblers, Christ and select indoctrinations we as survivors endured...But in no way are you to date describing the entire story...because you do not know the entire story. You can get a plethoria of information from survivors, conduct interviews, speak face to face with survivors...ya dont need other writers contributions when you can get the full scoop from the survivors themselves...but then again, that may not be your agenda.
The full scope of Straight incorporated is our story, my story and I am in a unique position to know when you barely scatch the surface or if you hit the nail on the head. You sir, have barely even rubbed the surface. Rely on your own skills, your own curiosity, your own ability to get the story and use your own words. Then your input will have probably a much greater impact, untill then you will appear as a half hearted reporter with half ass skill and less than half ass credibility. You do want to be viewed as credible...don't you? Because right now, it just seems too cheesy to take seriously.
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