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[Anonymous]

Is peter off the hook now?

[Anonymous]

He's still  driving to Camp Wasega Road, parking, then jogging to HLA, in hopes there still  are parents driving by to attend work shops, so he can strut his stuff,  attend the work shops, confirming to himself, it was going to be all about him - the jogger.  He was a laughing stock amongst the staff, "an egotistical nut case".

Hidden Lake Academy has workshops for the parents? What are those like? A little like this?
http://www.rickross.com/groups/lifespring.html

thewho's still failed to outline how Lacey's "harassment" by Hidden Lake Academy  helped her with the rape that Hidden Lake Academy abused her with, if it had occurred after Hidden Lake Academy!?! If, indeed thewho is John Reuben, perhaps it is incumbent upon us to inform his donators the sorts of places John Reuben supports? And what it considers “help”?

10$s says none of his donors know abduction and imprisonment without due process, then torture and brainwashing,  like that practiced at Hidden Lake Academy and Academy at Swift River, is what John Reuben means by “helping” teens. Perhaps survivors of  CEDU, ASR and HLA survivors could inform them of this?

[TheWho]

Is peter off the hook now?

Its John now.  We are absolutely sure this time because it fits.  This guy flys down to HLA just to jog up and down the path and wave to parents as they drop off their kids.  He is fucked up.  He hands out business cards at local highschools and local courts.

[TheWho]

Is peter off the hook now?

Its John now.  We are absolutely sure this time because it fits.  This guy flys down to HLA just to jog up and down the path and wave to parents as they drop off their kids.  He is fucked up.  He hands out business cards at local highschools and local courts.

OMG!  I remember this guy too.  He wore a sweat band on his head, socks up to his knees and was in his 40's and would wave to everyone who passed him.  was that thewho?  Thats creepy.

[TheWho]

So Lacey, I think it is awful that that had to happen to you.  I do not condone that treatment.  I dont think all schools would do the same thing and I actually know they would not.  I dont condone harassment. I do believethat if the rape occured post program you would be in a stronger position to deal with it then you were before hand.  
But you cannot honestly believe that spreading or allowing the spread of misinformation is going to have any long term lasting effect against these places.  They need to be exposed for what they are and back it all up with facts and data.  If you try to fool people with lies then the whole site loses its credibility.

Okay thewho or John.  How do you explain this post?  You failed to answer how going to HLA helped Lacey deal with her rape.

[Anonymous]

Hidden Lake Academy has workshops for the parents? What are those like? A little like this?
http://www.rickross.com/groups/lifespring.html

[TheWho]

Hidden Lake Academy has workshops for the parents? What are those like? A little like this?
http://www.rickross.com/groups/lifespring.html

No way.  These places are not going to use workshops which call themselves cults.  Maybe they are borderline cults themselves, but they never advertise this fact.  There is no way HLA would openly say welcome parents to a cult workshop or whatever it says it is.  this is a stretch I dont buy it.

[Anonymous]

Hidden Lake Academy has workshops for the parents? What are those like? A little like this?
http://www.rickross.com/groups/lifespring.html

No way.  These places are not going to use workshops which call themselves cults.  Maybe they are borderline cults themselves, but they never advertise this fact.  There is no way HLA would openly say welcome parents to a cult workshop or whatever it says it is.  this is a stretch I dont buy it.

Well, obviously I am not saying "Hidden Lake Academy" calls itself a cult or offers "workshops" they refer to as cultic. There is not one cult in the world that presents itself as a cult.
So what are the parent workshops like? Like this, a bit? A lot of affirming of the "reasons" the kids are there, which stated publicly in a group atmosphere serves to reify the "badness" of the detainees to their parents, and encourage the notion the detainees cannot be trusted and need continued incarceration?
http://www.rickross.com/groups/lifespring.html

[Anonymous]

So Lacey, I think it is awful that that had to happen to you.  I do not condone that treatment.  I dont think all schools would do the same thing and I actually know they would not.  I dont condone harassment. I do believethat if the rape occured post program you would be in a stronger position to deal with it then you were before hand.  
But you cannot honestly believe that spreading or allowing the spread of misinformation is going to have any long term lasting effect against these places.  They need to be exposed for what they are and back it all up with facts and data.  If you try to fool people with lies then the whole site loses its credibility.

Okay thewho or John.  How do you explain this post?  You failed to answer how going to HLA helped Lacey deal with her rape.

[Anonymous]

He's still  driving to Camp Wasega Road, parking, then jogging to HLA, in hopes there still  are parents driving by to attend work shops, so he can strut his stuff,  attend the work shops, confirming to himself, it was going to be all about him - the jogger.  He was a laughing stock amongst the staff, "an egotistical nut case".

Reuben has to be pretty old by now why would he be trying to strut his stuff?  I thought this guy lived in Massachusetts.

If this is the same John Reuben(from Massachusetts) whose son attended HLA, while his son was at HLA and during parent work shops, he would do his 'jogging thing'... Ridiculous.  I guess it made him feel like he was somebody, he needed to stand out in the crowd or something.

[Anonymous]

So Lacey, I think it is awful that that had to happen to you.  I do not condone that treatment.  I dont think all schools would do the same thing and I actually know they would not.  I dont condone harassment. I do believethat if the rape occured post program you would be in a stronger position to deal with it then you were before hand.  
But you cannot honestly believe that spreading or allowing the spread of misinformation is going to have any long term lasting effect against these places.  They need to be exposed for what they are and back it all up with facts and data.  If you try to fool people with lies then the whole site loses its credibility.

Okay thewho or John.  How do you explain this post?  You failed to answer how going to HLA helped Lacey deal with her rape.

It's the same John Rueben that won't address this ^

[TheWho]

So Lacey, I think it is awful that that had to happen to you.  I do not condone that treatment.  I dont think all schools would do the same thing and I actually know they would not.  I dont condone harassment. I do believethat if the rape occured post program you would be in a stronger position to deal with it then you were before hand.  
But you cannot honestly believe that spreading or allowing the spread of misinformation is going to have any long term lasting effect against these places.  They need to be exposed for what they are and back it all up with facts and data.  If you try to fool people with lies then the whole site loses its credibility.

Okay thewho or John.  How do you explain this post?  You failed to answer how going to HLA helped Lacey deal with her rape.

It is funny how everyone misreads the same quote over and over again.  I was waiting for someone to correct it… but anyway.   I have no idea if HLA is set up to help kids who were raped.  I don’t know what their model is.  What I do know is that programs help kids to be better prepared for what life throws at them  “Post Program”.  I have seen kids face similar problems and the ones who had been in a program tend to handle the problems much better.

[Inculcated]

So Lacey, I think it is awful that that had to happen to you.  I do not condone that treatment.  I dont think all schools would do the same thing and I actually know they would not.  I dont condone harassment. I do believethat if the rape occured post program you would be in a stronger position to deal with it then you were before hand.  
But you cannot honestly believe that spreading or allowing the spread of misinformation is going to have any long term lasting effect against these places.  They need to be exposed for what they are and back it all up with facts and data.  If you try to fool people with lies then the whole site loses its credibility.

Okay thewho or John.  How do you explain this post?  You failed to answer how going to HLA helped Lacey deal with her rape.

Your inadequate “explanation” needs some work.

 I have seen kids face similar problems and the ones who had been in a program tend to handle the problems much better.

Like being put through another program?

[TheWho]

Like being put through another program?

Didnt mean to leave out the kids who have been in more than one..... Geesh.. you guys are tough.  Rephrase:

 I have seen kids face similar problems and the ones who had been in programs tend to handle the problems much better

[Inculcated]

I don’t care who you are you miserable troll. Your claims about your agenda here don’t wash with me.
You’re an ass.
You don’t care about presenting balance in a discussion.
You have spent years embroiled in an ongoing one sided semantics game.
 You don’t care what it was like for someone who was in one or more of these very harmful programs.
You can’t be made to even consider the possible effect of your dismissive missives on anyone who was in one (or even more) of these programs who may actually have experienced additional trauma later on.
You’re an inconsiderate sub-par pseudo intellectual agent provocateur who isn’t even capable of seeing how very poorly you serve your professed purpose of being a program proponent.
If you were capable of any of these insights you would be aware of how your reductive, dismissive, insensitive and yeah, (even to your claimed objective) incompetence is exactly like that of the buffoons with sets of shiny keys on rings that run these places are.
You whoever the hell you are…will not prevail in this misguided endeavor of yours to belittle the firsthand accounts of those who experienced and witnessed crimes committed against children in these programs.