Author Topic: Just Because I Don't Know What It Is, Doesn't Mean I'm Lying (Read 5603 times)

TheWho · « **Reply #30 on:** May 01, 2009, 06:12:31 PM »

Quote from: "MaryT."

I am from Alberta and have a neice who is having trouble. You make it sound so nice, do they really have a 85% success rate? Is this for kids on drugs? Are the kids separated from the adults?
Is there a place that I can get more information?

Hi Mary here is some info which should help:

AARC Website

The Alberta Adolescent Recovery Centre is registered under the Societies Act of Alberta and as a charitable organization by the Canada Revenue Agency under the Income Tax Act (#13219 9480 RR0001).

The organization is also accredited by the Canadian Accreditation Council (http://www.cacohs.com). This non-profit organization has worked with community organizations like AARC for over twenty years.

AARC Telephone: (403) 253-5250

Ursus · « **Reply #31 on:** May 01, 2009, 06:22:20 PM »

Quote from: "Guest"

Quote from: "MaryT."
I am from Alberta and have a neice who is having trouble. You make it sound so nice, do they really have a 85% success rate? Is this for kids on drugs? Are the kids separated from the adults?
Is there a place that I can get more information?
Hi Mary here is some info which should help:

AARC Website

The Alberta Adolescent Recovery Centre is registered under the Societies Act of Alberta and as a charitable organization by the Canada Revenue Agency under the Income Tax Act (#13219 9480 RR0001).

The organization is also accredited by the Canadian Accreditation Council (http://www.cacohs.com). This non-profit organization has worked with community organizations like AARC for over twenty years.

AARC Telephone: (403) 253-5250

"Query" and "Answer" were exactly 6 minutes apart... :roflmao:

TheWho · « **Reply #32 on:** May 01, 2009, 06:32:22 PM »

Thank you!

Anonymous · « **Reply #33 on:** May 01, 2009, 06:35:55 PM »

No problem Mary. And I also know of a really good therapist for post traumatic stress disorder when she gets out. Good luck to you.

TheWho · « **Reply #34 on:** May 01, 2009, 06:42:13 PM »

Mary, If you are still logged in, I assumed your niece lives in Alberta but I wanted to let you know that AARC has also opened up a second treatment facility in Calgary.

To support the team effort in both Centres, independent psychiatric, medical and counselling consultants regularly work with our teens. Dr. Lori Hogg provides ongoing psychiatric consultation including assessment and diagnosis expertise. Peter Choate, a seasoned social worker, provides AARC with independent addiction assessments and counselling interventions for clients, siblings and parents. Dr. Alan Stanhope teams with Dr. Dan Botha to provide AARC with medical assessment and ongoing support.

Anonymous · « **Reply #35 on:** May 01, 2009, 06:45:55 PM »

Is there some deep-seated psychological need for validation that drives them to this? Seriously, is ANYONE not going to notice the pure fakery of "Mary"?

"But if we put it out there, then it'll negate all the damage done if the wrong person finds that thread!"

No. No, actually, it won't.

You lose.

TheWho · « **Reply #36 on:** May 01, 2009, 06:57:22 PM »

I am not suppose to say this but personally I would recommend Calgary, at this time, because the kids get a little more one on one attention there. AARC is at capacity right now and has just lost a key staff person. Their quality hasn’t suffered but Calgary can offer more attention at this time until Alberta can get new people in.

ajax13 · « **Reply #37 on:** May 01, 2009, 07:27:16 PM »

Silly American pedophile, Calgary is a city within the Province of Alberta. AARC has only one facility, but for some reason has tried to pass off the operation as two distinct entities. They acquired the neighboring building, attached it to the old one, and put Markin's name on one part, McCaig's on the other. Never let the facts get in the way when you're trying to antagonize crime victims.

Ursus · « **Reply #38 on:** May 01, 2009, 07:33:03 PM »

Quote from: "Guest, part 1"

Mary, If you are still logged in, I assumed your niece lives in Alberta but I wanted to let you know that AARC has also opened up a second treatment facility in Calgary.

To support the team effort in both Centres, independent psychiatric, medical and counselling consultants regularly work with our teens. Dr. Lori Hogg provides ongoing psychiatric consultation including assessment and diagnosis expertise. Peter Choate, a seasoned social worker, provides AARC with independent addiction assessments and counselling interventions for clients, siblings and parents. Dr. Alan Stanhope teams with Dr. Dan Botha to provide AARC with medical assessment and ongoing support.

Quote from: "Guest, part 2"

I am not suppose to say this but personally I would recommend Calgary, at this time, because the kids get a little more one on one attention there. AARC is at capacity right now and has just lost a key staff person. Their quality hasn’t suffered but Calgary can offer more attention at this time until Alberta can get new people in.

Quote from: "ajax13"

Silly American pedophile, Calgary is a city within the Province of Alberta.

:roflmao: Might this be a ... Whooter exposé!?

TheWho · « **Reply #39 on:** May 01, 2009, 07:39:45 PM »

Quote from: "Guest"

I am not suppose to say this but personally I would recommend Calgary, at this time, because the kids get a little more one on one attention there. AARC is at capacity right now and has just lost a key staff person. Their quality hasn’t suffered but Calgary can offer more attention at this time until Alberta can get new people in.

Thanks for the info. She actually lives in Canmore so either would work. Thank you so much for the information, my sister and I speak every weekend and I will bring up the idea with her. Love this site!
Mary

ajax13 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 01, 2009, 07:43:08 PM »

Right. Canmore is equally close to both doors of the facility.

Anonymous · « **Reply #41 on:** May 01, 2009, 11:14:58 PM »

Quote from: "Ursus"

Quote from: "Guest, part 1"
Mary, If you are still logged in, I assumed your niece lives in Alberta but I wanted to let you know that AARC has also opened up a second treatment facility in Calgary.

To support the team effort in both Centres, independent psychiatric, medical and counselling consultants regularly work with our teens. Dr. Lori Hogg provides ongoing psychiatric consultation including assessment and diagnosis expertise. Peter Choate, a seasoned social worker, provides AARC with independent addiction assessments and counselling interventions for clients, siblings and parents. Dr. Alan Stanhope teams with Dr. Dan Botha to provide AARC with medical assessment and ongoing support.
Quote from: "Guest, part 2"
I am not suppose to say this but personally I would recommend Calgary, at this time, because the kids get a little more one on one attention there. AARC is at capacity right now and has just lost a key staff person. Their quality hasn’t suffered but Calgary can offer more attention at this time until Alberta can get new people in.
Quote from: "ajax13"
Silly American pedophile, Calgary is a city within the Province of Alberta.

:roflmao: Might this be a ... Whooter exposé!?

What is wrong with this who creature? As Ajex says, his motivation seems to be nothing greater than antagonizing crime victims.

TheWho · « **Reply #42 on:** May 02, 2009, 07:33:25 AM »

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What is wrong with this who creature? As Ajex says, his motivation seems to be nothing greater than antagonizing crime victims

I cant believe you said that!! if you read through this thread (as well as others) you will see that it is Ajax (who never went to a program) who is the one antagonizing survivors of AARC, in fact it seems to be his main motivation as you pointed out.

Its funny how blind some are here and easily duped into accepting a double standard. So is antagonizing survivors acceptable here on fornits? Or is it okay as long as they have a different point of view than yours? If we all know the rules than it becomes easier to follow them.

TheWho · « **Reply #43 on:** May 02, 2009, 10:10:53 AM »

Calm down, we antagonize everyone equally here. There just so happens to be more survivors here than parents and program staff here on fornits so it just seems that staff and parents are antagonized more. I realize that antagonizing survivors is fair but it just stands out more to us because most of us are not use to it.

Just because Ajax was never sent to a program doesnt mean he cannot antagonize survivors, programs or staff. There are no rules, somepeople are just more sensitive then others.

Anonymous · « **Reply #44 on:** May 02, 2009, 03:17:07 PM »

A lot of AARC survivors are in hiding - people who have been raped, molested, assaulted, physically abused, psychologically tormented, etc... They aren't coming forward because they've been convinced that they deserved it. It was their (or their 'disease's') fault. Maybe ajax antagonizes them as you say, but maybe someone needs to incite some anger in them. It has a lot to do with intent. I have no doubt that ajax's intent is to help AARC survivors. I do, however, doubt that Vause's intent to 'help kids' is genuine when he has repeatedly shown that he will throw any AARC grad under the bus if they dare challenge or criticize his cult. Especially if they have valid claims of abuse and pose a threat to his operations. Vause's intent is to shut them up and protect himself. For that reason, I'd be willing to bet that ajax cares more about the kids sitting in AARC right now than Vause does.

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