Just Because I Don't Know What It Is, Doesn't Mean I'm Lying

[ajax13]

There has been some debate of late as to just what AARC is.  AARC claims to be treating a disease in it's promotional material, but when the question of qualifications to provide medical treatment arise, suddenly AARC is just a temperance fellowship, like AA, but costing $50 000 per year, and keeping people against their will.  
Let's look at what AARC themselves claim to be doing:

"The AARC program offers comprehensive assessment, treatment and aftercare, based on the concepts of:
 Twelve Step Recovery models of Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous (AA/NA);
Positive peer influence;
Group, family and individual therapy; and
Use of Recovery Homes
 
The AARC program is based on the fundamental that addiction is a disease. Adolescent addiction is defined as a psycho-social, genetic, chronic, progressive and relapsing disease affecting every dimension of the adolescent and their family members’ lives."

The AARC program provides progressive, structured stages of treatment from primary recovery through intermediate and advanced recovery."
http://www.aarc.ab.ca/the_AARC_program.html


Sounds to me like they're doing this:
"perform a psychosocial intervention with an expectation of treating a substantial disorder of thought, mood, perception, orientation or memory that grossly impairs: i)judgement ii)behaviour iii)capacity to recognize reality, or iv)ability to meet the ordinary demands of life"
http://www.cpsa.ab.ca/Libraries/Res_Mes ... .sflb.ashx

That's a Restricted Activity, and it's against the law for the Wiz and his staff to perform it.  Seems that the AARC folks don't quite know what AARC is.

[Anonymous]

College of Alberta Psychologists:
http://www.cap.ab.ca/Registry.aspx?Alph ... g&Run=True

No sign of Vause, Natalie or Colin. There is a Bryan Campbell but, as mentioned, not the same Bryan Campbell.

Registered Social Workers
http://www.acsw.ab.ca/find_a_social_wor ... ith=H#list

Tom Gilbert is not a registered Social Worker - has he ever been a registered anything?? Tom Gilbert and Marty Heeg are no longer listed as staff on AARC's website. Rumour has it that Tom has been promoted and Heeg's been canned. Funny, since Heeg, is authorized to do Restricted Activities/Psychosocial Interventions. hmm...

AARC is an unlicensed, unregulated, nonmedically accredited, "nonresidential" addictions treatment program that received just over $2.8 million from the Alberta lottery fund in the last decade, $300,000 from the province annually, countless millions from donors and fundraisers, not to mention the $50,000 annual fee for each of clients. It is a registered  "NON PROFIT  :roflmao:  charity" run by: a guy who is pretending to be a doctor, clinical directors who are pretending to be psychologists, and a bunch of kids who are pretending to be professional counselors. Man, I am in the wrong industry. I think I'm going to throw a Ph.D. at the end of my name too. Anybody know of any empty warehouses available for lease?

[TheWho]

It is an amazing place.  They have been the subject of documentaries by 5th Estate.  AARC meets and or exceeds all requirements in running their treatment facility.  You may read here that they don’t have this license or that license, but what you don’t hear is that they need to have that license or are required to.  It is a smoke screen to try to discredit AARC.

If you look at the facts you will find that AARC is extremely successful and enjoys a success rate of 85% sobriety for those who graduate the program.

Now back to the smear campaign by those who failed to graduate.

[Anonymous]

Josh, you still haven't replied to my question on the "Outlaws" thread. You must have just missed it. Here you go:

I've read enough on this forum to see that a myriad of facts, links and laws have been presented to discredit AARC. I have not seen any facts presented to support the legalities of AARC, the validity of AARC staff's credentials, and have not read a single coherent rebuttal.
We don't need to resort to name calling (such as calling victims of abuse liars?), but I will speak for myself when I say that the debates I've had with AARC supporters have been some of the most frustrating conversations I've had in my life, and I wouldn't blame ajax for losing his patience with some of you. At first, the facts are "lies," then the facts "don't matter." You are masters at dodging questions and circular reasoning.

"The quoting of random laws can be effective in deceiving people too as long as the readers dont read too much of the provided links." Please provide one example of this, and point out the discrepancies in the links.

[TheWho]

Josh, you still haven't replied to my question on the "Outlaws" thread. You must have just missed it. Here you go:

I've read enough on this forum to see that a myriad of facts, links and laws have been presented to discredit AARC. I have not seen any facts presented to support the legalities of AARC, the validity of AARC staff's credentials, and have not read a single coherent rebuttal.
We don't need to resort to name calling (such as calling victims of abuse liars?), but I will speak for myself when I say that the debates I've had with AARC supporters have been some of the most frustrating conversations I've had in my life, and I wouldn't blame ajax for losing his patience with some of you. At first, the facts are "lies," then the facts "don't matter." You are masters at dodging questions and circular reasoning.

"The quoting of random laws can be effective in deceiving people too as long as the readers dont read too much of the provided links." Please provide one example of this, and point out the discrepancies in the links.

I quess I am Josh because I wrote one of those threads.

What I haven’t seen are any requirements that have been breached.  What needs to be done is to establish the requirements and then look at the licenses and degrees needed to meet the requirements.  This cannot be determined by you and I.

The guy at our local Mcdonalds making the food is not a professional chef and the manager does not have an MBA.  Should it be shut down?  If the counter person gives nutritional advice or information should they first have a PhD in nutrition?  I might say yes and you may say not.   My kids school teacher thinks he would do better socially and adapt more quickly in a school with smaller class sizes.  Should we fire her because she is giving advice without being licensed as a psychologist?

 So who decides?

What we do is refer this to the local licensing board.  

I have read where this person Vause needs a degree from Canada instead of the United States.  I have read where a poster feels the union insititute isn’t accredited and that he should not have pursued an online degree.  Another felt his dissertation wasn’t very good because he didn’t publish it.  That he should be licensed and AARC should be licensed.  All this is being played out on this forum but the one place to get answers hasn’t even been mentioned... The licensing board.

They have been notified and there are no problems with the licenses that AARC and their employees have.  If you don’t believe this then give them a call.  This is real basic stuff people!!

The average reader here knows that the posts are made to harass and throw up a smoke screen.......... you and I are not the ones who decide if the burger flipper at McDonalds needs to be a licensed nutritionist or licensed chef.  The same as we are not the ones who decide if AARC needs a license and what kind and which employees need what degrees and licenses.

Call the license board..... AARC actually is exceeding all the requirements needed to run their business.

[inc]

You know, I want to hate you but you make me laugh so much, I just can't. Your analogies... "If I put a band aid on my kid, do I need to be a licensed physician?" "Can I give my friend advice without being a licensed psychologist?"

I don't doubt that AARC's "licenses are in order" since AARC claims to be a nonprofit charity and outpatient treatment program. I'm sure that charities aren't subjected to the same regulations, laws and standards that something like a hospital would be. The issue that has been raised here is that there is a stark difference between what AARC claims to be and what it really is. The staff at AARC are unauthorized to perform psychosocial intervention, a restricted activity. Just because they didn't mention their job descriptions when they registered themselves as a charity, doesn't mean their licenses are in order.

In regard to the Union Institute... despite the fact that it is listed in "Bear's Guide To College Degrees By Mail & Internet," Vause's Ph.D. is completely useless in Canada and he has absolutely no right to refer to himself as a doctor.

At first glance, the fact that Vause has completed a "Project Demonstrating Excellence" (PDE) through the Union Institute sounds, well.. excellent! Very impressive.
To give you an idea of the high standard of education you can expect to receive through the Union Institute, here are a couple of PDEs that are published on the Internet:

"Beyond Compare: A Personal Reflection on Treatment Approaches with Emotionally Disturbed Adolescents" by Leslie Ann Heizer
http://www.processwork.org/Finalproject ... ompare.pdf

"I realize that a creative writing piece is not the usual format for a final project at the doctoral degree level, and I"m happy that it is possible through Union...
As we're running, Jake says, "When we get him, let's take him down." This is another containment euphemism which describes a maneuver where the adults gently take a child's arms and places him or her face down on the ground until he or she is calm enough to walk. "I'm not containment trained," I inform Jake. "This is my first day, and I was told I couldn't put my hands on a kid without training." "Oh, wonderful," he moans, "welcome to the battlefield. This is a slippery kid who will no way listen to us"... I can hear Eric screeching "child abuse" from the quiet room, and I'm greeted by three kids saying that I'm going to get it because i"m not containment trained. This is a funny dynamic I've noticed before....
I want so much to understand these kids. I should clarify why I'm calling them kids, because they're not, really. The youngest one is eleven. We can take them from age six, but don't usually get anyone younger than ten or eleven. I guess it takes that long for a person to be considered damaged enough for this place, which is really a last ditch effort... I then heard the beginning of Beethoven's fifth symphony in my head, you know, "Da da da dum; (lower now) da da dum..., with prepare to die; the end has come" for vocals..."


Connecting with the Dakini and Guru Archetype within the Self:  by Betty Martin-Finneran
http://docbetty.com/Dissertation/chapter1.htm

My PDE has two components:  a contextual essay and a chapbook of my poetry. What is central to my PDE are the transformative events described in Chapter II, “My Story” and the chapbook of poetry in Part II of this PDE (“Learner’s Chapbook of Poetry”) that was the result.  In addition, I conducted a research project that served as the background support for the contextual essay.  My chapbook, The Friend Ship: A Stormy Journey to the Self, reflects the process of my spiritual emergence.  Metaphorically, my process can be seen in terms of the three phases of the alchemical opus, as shall be described later in Chapter VI, “Contextual Essay:  Discussion” and Chapter VII, “Chapbook Analysis.” 

Dean's PDE, "The Alberta Adolescent Recovery Centre: A Treatment Centre for Chemically Dependent Youth and Their Families" sounds quite similar to another PDE entitled, "The Organization and Implementation of Family Involvement in Adolescent Drug-Use Rehabilitation," by Dr. Virgil Miller Newton. I would love to compare the two papers and see how much copying and pasting went on there. Or maybe Dean just wrote a lovely creative writing piece, like Leslie...
"So then I said, "hey Virgil. Let's not get the kids to flap their arms and belt loop each other. Then the program will be good." And Virgil said no, so I said "Ok, then I will start my own treatment centre and I will call it AARC..."

[TheWho]

I don't doubt that AARC's "licenses are in order" since AARC claims to be a nonprofit charity and outpatient treatment program. I'm sure that charities aren't subjected to the same regulations, laws and standards that something like a hospital would be. The issue that has been raised here is that there is a stark difference between what AARC claims to be and what it really is. The staff at AARC are unauthorized to perform psychosocial intervention, a restricted activity. Just because they didn't mention their job descriptions when they registered themselves as a charity, doesn't mean their licenses are in order.

I am glad we agree with their licensing status.  As far as the definitions of various interventions and techniques that may be used I do not think they need to be licensed on each and every level.  A facility is licensed based on their area of expertise and various techniques can be used under that license.  If people are working outside of their area then this needs to be brought to the attention of the authorities and corrections will be made.

In regard to the Union Institute... despite the fact that it is listed in "Bear's Guide To College Degrees By Mail & Internet," Vause's Ph.D. is completely useless in Canada and he has absolutely no right to refer to himself as a doctor.

These are comments which are puzzling.  Why doesn’t he have the right to call himself a doctor?  I don’t understand where you get this information.  Anyone with a PhD has the right to call themselves a doctor, why is this different in Canada?

You are picking at this mans degree and even the university he attended yet you havent even established that he even needs a degree to perform his job.

At first glance, the fact that Vause has completed a "Project Demonstrating Excellence" (PDE) through the Union Institute sounds, well.. excellent! Very impressive.

Geesh,you dig and dig to try to find the smallest thing to discredit people.  This guy Ajax was so deperate to find something bad about AARC that he started making fun of peoples wives and their weight conditions and another guy who claimed he played hockey in college.  Who cares,it is childish:

Union Institute & University is accredited

Some other alumni of the Union institute:

1.   Prime minister of Jamaica
2.   Wynona Ward, creator and director of "Have Justice Will Travel" in Vermont, an advocacy outreach program
3.   Tania Aebi author of : Maiden Voyage and I've Been Around.
4.   Lisa Lorimer, president, Vermont Bread Company, Brattleboro Vermont
5.   Lorraine Neal, director, Contemporary Dance and Fitness Center, Montpelier, Vermont

[TheWho]

Vause's Ph.D. is completely useless in Canada and he has absolutely no right to refer to himself as a doctor.

Education is never useless.  Why do you think Canada would be against people furthering their education?  It may be different in Canada, as you say, but in the US and UK, if you get your PhD you can refer to yourself as Doctor.  I find it hard to believe that Canada doesnt recognize advanced degrees the same way.

I see what the other poster means about misinformation.

[Anonymous]

SOME COLLEGE DEGREES NOT WORTH THE PAPER THEY’RE PRINTED ON
by Lance Frederiksen

More and more job applicants aren’t earning their college degrees the old-fashioned way – actually going to school.

Instead, they’re buying their diplomas from “degree mills” that sell official-looking documents from non-accredited or non-existent colleges and universities with impressive-sounding names.

Just look on the Internet, and you’ll find dozens of companies offering everything from cheap “novelty” diplomas to advanced academic degrees. They all have one thing in common, however: They aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on.

Warning Signs:

Attractive But Improbable Claims – “Earn your master’s degree in half the time it usually takes” sounds good, however, attractive but improbable claims are telltale signs of a diploma mill or fake online school. Always be skeptical of schools that offer degree programs that are quick and easy to finish for your convenience.

FAQ for the Union Institute:
http://www.myunion.edu/admissions/faqs.html

Can I keep my job and get my undergraduate degree at the same time?
Most Union learners work full time.

How long will it take to complete my bachelor's degree?
Currently, most learners complete their degree in less than two years (16-20 months)


This is just one of many reasons I believe a diploma from the Union Institute is not worth the paper it's printed on. I think it's great if a homemaker or a retired person decides to collect their poetry or write a creative story about their life. Do I think that entitles them to run a rehabilitation centre for troubled teens? Absolutely not. But enough information has been presented for people to make up their own minds.

[ajax13]

"Call the licensing board"
Oh, if only there were such a thing.  Dog licenses, hair-dressing licenses, gas well-licenses, medical licenses, fire-arm licenses, liquor licenses, pilot's licenses, all from the license board.  One thing about the American pedophile, always good for a laugh.
Still can't take a stab at that very specific Restricted Activity that is unquestionably performed at AARC by the staff, for which they require membership in a licensed profession, and which membership none have?  You see, the list of Restricted Activities has been compiled in such a way that routine health procedures can still be carried out by lay-people.  The type of psycho-social intervention that constitutes AARC's treatment is not a routine health procedure like changing a band-aid.  It's an all-encompassing process that goes for hours each day, and lasts for months.  Once again, a miasma of inapplicable comparisons courtesy of the kiddie-fucker.
Why is it, kiddie-fucker, that you feel so compelled to try to obscure the facts regarding this particular scam, so far from your home?  I'm sure you still got your hands on lots of sweet teen ass via the wilderness programs, regardless of whether the Straight clones shut down or not.  What gives?

[TheWho]

This is just one of many reasons I believe a diploma from the Union Institute is not worth the paper it's printed on. I think it's great if a homemaker or a retired person decides to collect their poetry or write a creative story about their life. Do I think that entitles them to run a rehabilitation centre for troubled teens? Absolutely not. But enough information has been presented for people to make up their own minds.  

Its not just the paper but rather what you do with it that is important.  Many a graduate from ivy league schools do very little with their piece of paper and there are still others who never attended college at all who soared to great heights.

I give people credit for having the drive to continue to learn new things about themselves and the world around them.  We are emerged into a paperless world and more and more of us are pursuing degrees online.  It is a fact of life and all of need to get use to it, it should not be used as a tool for ridicule.

[ajax13]

Come on kiddie-fucker, I'll bite.  What is so important about obscuring the facts about AARC?  It won't even make the news Stateside when it closes.  There will be plenty of parents willing to let you molest their kids and pay you for it, so why so desperate to cover up this particular criminal organization?

[TheWho]

"Call the licensing board"
Oh, if only there were such a thing.  Dog licenses, hair-dressing licenses, gas well-licenses, medical licenses, fire-arm licenses, liquor licenses, pilot's licenses, all from the license board.  One thing about the American pedophile, always good for a laugh.
Still can't take a stab at that very specific Restricted Activity that is unquestionably performed at AARC by the staff, for which they require membership in a licensed profession, and which membership none have?  You see, the list of Restricted Activities has been compiled in such a way that routine health procedures can still be carried out by lay-people.  The type of psycho-social intervention that constitutes AARC's treatment is not a routine health procedure like changing a band-aid.  It's an all-encompassing process that goes for hours each day, and lasts for months.  Once again, a miasma of inapplicable comparisons courtesy of the kiddie-fucker.
Why is it, kiddie-fucker, that you feel so compelled to try to obscure the facts regarding this particular scam, so far from your home?  I'm sure you still got your hands on lots of sweet teen ass via the wilderness programs, regardless of whether the Straight clones shut down or not.  What gives?

5 o'clock charlie, We have already established that AARC has the licenses needed for their business in previous posts.  You can play at your misinformation game for your own pleasure and our humor if you like.

I bet $20 he brings up someones weight problem as a reason for AARC to be shut down...  I'll put $30 dollars he try to convince us that Vause didnt play ice hockey in college as a reason to close the doors....  and the answer is:

They perform "psychosocial intervention" oh my goodness!!  This is a little less then your local AA group does in the basement of churches but it seems we want AARC to try to seek a special license for it.  Personally I thought the playing hockey in college was a better smear attempt and more believable.

Stay tuned as 5 o'clock charlie trys to convince the world that a Doctor who crosses an international border can no longer use the title "Dr.".....  Ajax (as a little boy) use to read "Mr. Suess" books in Canada becuase they didnt recognize the title.

[Anonymous]

Come on kiddie-fucker, I'll bite.  What is so important about obscuring the facts about AARC?  It won't even make the news Stateside when it closes.  There will be plenty of parents willing to let you molest their kids and pay you for it, so why so desperate to cover up this particular criminal organization?

Are you saying this particular guest is thewho?

There have been many stabs at his motivations, but ultimately no one really knows.

[ajax13]

There have been three posters who are difficult to discern from one another, each with their own particular compulsion to cover up the reality of the AARC, and they've all been at it for years.  
The American pedophile takes particular delight in antagonizing victims, but he also devotes a lot of effort to burying any factual information about AARC.  I find him reminiscent of the fellow in British Colubmia a few years back who murdered a teenaged girl and then taunted the family, desecrating her tombstone and making gloating phone calls.  Clifford Olson, another child-killer who enjoyed taunting the families of his victims also comes to mind.  
Then there's Jem.  She's been posting on here for over seven years.  She's got a thing for the Wiz, going back to his time in Saskatchewan.  Notable for lying about having a PhD, Jem may be suffering from the frustrations of longing for someone who bats for the other team.  Jem has in fact chosen the Wiz over her own flesh and blood, like so many good AARColytes.  
And last, but certainly not least is old Joshy.  He's been posting on here as long as Jem, and like Jem has had to drop his monikker.  Joshy, according to himself an expert on addiction, went into AARC at around fourteen or fifteen.  Those years of hard-living gave Joshy that wisdom he likes to impart to everyone.  What he has always failed to mention wherever he shows up, is that he went back to AARC as a peer counselor.  So he has a lot to lose once this finally collapses.  Now Joshy was mentioned as a "person of interest" in one of the rapes at AARC.  I personally don't believe that someone demonstrating the particular freakiness of old Joshy is capable of physically performing the sex act with a live human, but he may have had a role as an accomplice.
At times it is hard to tell one from the other.  The American kiddie-fucker usually talks about himself and has no knowledge of Canadian laws or any of the personalities involved, which exposes him occasionally.  Joshy is almost illiterate, and although loves to speak about himself as much as the American kiddie-fucker, his attacks on the victims are generaly of a more personal nature, as he has made it his business to recycle anything the Wiz farts into his mouth.