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Offline Deborah

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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2003, 09:04:00 PM »
Re: the issue of parents who are soliciting for their own profit!

I have to wonder if parents who are looking for a program are really concerned about this.
If they are determined to warehouse their teen, they may actually appreciate the opportunity to recruit for cash or credit themselves, to recoup some of their expenses.

Seems like there could be some liability issues if the referring parent neglects to disclose the BM techniques employed by the program and a teen is injured, physically or psychologically.
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Hidden Lake Academy, after operating 12 years unlicensed will now be monitored by the state. Access information on the Federal Class Action lawsuit against HLA here: http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=17700

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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2003, 09:15:00 PM »
Deborah:

Mr. Woodbury has a site - http://www.strugglingteens.com which has a forum on it, right?  From what I'm reading any one, including me, you, PURE, other educational consultants, etc., can privately e-mail posters who have asked for alternatives, right?

So this would be something I would imagine Mr. Woodbury would be interested to know.  If there are those out there in cyberland emailing to people posting on his board and steering them away from what he does, it wouldn't be a very good thing for him.  

It's not important to me, but just thought I'd share what I see.

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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2003, 09:26:00 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2003, 09:29:00 PM »
If people are privately e-mailing posters, how can they keep track?
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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2003, 09:33:00 PM »
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-17 16:42 ]
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2003, 09:39:00 PM »
Karen,
That sounds right to me too. I remember them asking parents to report any emails that slammed programs. What they do with that information is left to one's imagination.

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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2003, 12:17:00 AM »
Lee and Nancy Colburn: Turbinekat:

I see you are two of Sue's flunkies! All your posts on this site are now clear to me. This is probably not NEW news to the regulars on here, but I find it fascinating.

Whoa!!! I may be allot of things but someone's flunky? ::bwahaha:: LMAO!  You know I heard that I was being bashed on here which really amazes me since today is the first time I have ever posted.....and I like my husband, always sign my name to anything that I post.  I have no fear of speaking out and letting you know exactly who I am unlike you anon.  I would love to speak with you in person ::armed:: And I would question what you find fascinating?  Just curious since you are calling names and afraid to expose your identity.  I would say that makes you a coward and you have no integrity.

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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2003, 01:00:00 AM »
Nancy - what are you so upset about?  Questions??  Get yourself off PURE's parent reference site if you can't stand the heat.
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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2003, 01:30:00 AM »
Check out the FAQ section on the PURE website.  Sure would be interesting to know which PROGRAMS are paying finder's fees.  

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I would like a reference list of the PROGRAMS who pays a finder's fee for referrals.

GOT NAMES?

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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2003, 01:36:00 AM »
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On 2003-08-12 17:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Excerpt from Deborah's Post:



Hey, here's a challenge. Someone who cares, post a message there voicing your complaint- that there are parents who are 'advising' other parents for their own personal gain.



Or email Mrs. D.Va for advice and see where she directs you. Ask her if she is paid a referal fee while you're at it. Enquiring minds do want to know.



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Check out the FAQ section on the PURE website.  Sure would be interesting to know which PROGRAMS are paying finder's fees.  

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I would like a reference list of the PROGRAMS who pays a finder's fee for referrals.

GOT NAMES?

 :rofl:

SOrry, I'm new at this!
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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2003, 03:46:00 AM »
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On 2003-08-12 18:33:00, KarenZ wrote:

"I suggest finding Jena's post, because as I mentioned, its been awhile and I forget - but I think she said they were aware people had been bothering people and slaming programs via email, and I think she asked for anyone who had gotten such an email to let them know - Now again - I may be off on how I remember this - don't hold me to it.

But I'm sure the link is still up if you want to go wading around looking for it."


Is this the link you are looking for?

http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ ... 2;t=000495
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« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2003, 11:38:00 AM »
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http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ ... 2;t=000495

What's up with the whistle icon that can be found on the bottom (right hand corner) of these posts?  It says REPORT POST. Somebody should ask the moderator of that forum for a list of REPORTED OFFENDERS.   :rofl:
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« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2003, 12:31:00 PM »
The whistle blowing icon went up just after I was bounced for about the 6th time for an "objectionable" post.  Jena is always polite, very formal (probably a canned letter) in rejecting and removing a piece.  Any post *will* appear immediately, but it takes hours for Jena to find it, so she added the whistle-blower for "help".

BTW, the icon post was a response to a "family in crisis"...They have an adopted Korean boy (duh, didn't turn out quite like the ads?) who was giving them grief.  They shipped him off to wilderness, and further promised that he would be gone at least 27 more months until he "came around".  Golly gee, and he objected!  They couldn't understand why he was mad, and typically they came whining to the forum for support.  My post was asking them to rethink the 2+ years at BM schools, and try to give wilderness a chance and then see what happens.  I suggested they not "give up on the kid" at the git-go.  Ooohhhh...objectionable, adversarial post.

Surprise, surprise!!!!  The kid has been a nightmare, moved several times in placements.  Back to wilderness, off to some other facility when he faked an accident in the woods, back to original BM when he seemed under control...  Now what would be his rationale for behaving when he knows it will never shorten his sentence?  The adoptive parents are now whining to the forum about the upcoming first visit - 4½ months in (they have had to hang up on him through most of their phone calls...he's mad and verbally abusive).  Predictably, the response from the long-time posters (mose, millicent, Mrs. D-VA) has been..."you're doing the best you can.  Hang in there and enjoy your time away from the madness", etc.  

I used to think strugglingteens was a "better" forum because people could spell and not swear as much as some of the kids' forums.  Nope.  Same bunch of deluded, abyssmal parents, only with a little more money than brains.  I take that back.  A major thread that keeps reappearing is how the federal law for educating children forces school districts to foot the major bills for an emotionally-disturbed child (ODD, oppositional defiant disorder...sort of like "the growing-up syndrome").  With huge satisfaction, these parents boast about the squirming school districts shelling out $30K to $60K a year for their own out-of-control angels.  How do you suppose they justify the districts schoolrooms without enough textbooks for all the other students?  AND THESE PARENTS HAVE NO SHAME ABOUT IT; THEY GLOAT AND GIVE LEGAL ADVICE!

Melissa, this is what WWASPS parents are flooding the Internet with.  Pay the money; vacation; get a fixed kid back.  And isn't that exactly what WWASPS tells the kids in their jails?  "Your parents hate you and are on vacation without you."  That is what the testimonials are all about, trying to justify what they have done.  [disclaimer: lots of parents don't know what WWASPS is doing in-house...thus, the fraud suits.]  And the PURE bashing has proven to be an very effective diversion, dividing the swelling wave of public disgust.  

We all have found it impossible to sway cultists with their feet dug in.  The next viable alternative is to force the societal rules that govern child abuse in the home to be applied to the unlicensed BM facilities.  If it's illegal in suburbia, it should be illegal in remote secretive gulags.  That is our best hope.
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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2003, 07:08:00 PM »
Who are the programs that pay finder's fee exclusively to PURE and what's the going rate for "troubled teens" these days?

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« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2003, 07:35:00 PM »
This is a bit confusing.  Spots wrote her account of another family on another board and was "hushed" for respectfully stating her view?  

They sound harsh!

Betsy
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