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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2003, 07:14:00 PM »
gotta give it to him, that kid is pretty hot. Cant wait to see the movie!!

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2003, 02:30:00 AM »
Ryan - thank you for sharing your new website.  You're "scandalous" but cute.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2003, 04:15:00 PM »
Why do you post your support of Ryan anonymously?  Is it that you are afraid to publicly endorse him?  Why, do you think it would make you less creditable or do you think it would make him less creditable?

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2003, 09:05:00 PM »
Whether one believes or disbelieves Ryan's story, one thing for certain is this 16 year old kid is not so much a hero as he is a teenage capitalist.

The real heroes are the tens of thousands of young people whose stories of victimization in the name of treatment never made the local news, much less the front page of the New York Times.

How does a small-budget movie featuring a cameo appearance by a kid who may or may not even be credible validate their experience?  

It doesn't, except in the minds of those who wish it to be true.  

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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2003, 09:31:00 PM »
So, make your own movie. Better yet, find someone who will take your story and portray it just as you've dictated. Seems to be the only way you'll learn the realities of the movie business.

The fact that Ryan is going to make money, CONSULTING for a movie that NEVER WAS INTENDED TO BE HIS PERSONAL STORY, the truth of his experience, so help him god; does not diminish the pain and suffering he endured.

I hope he makes tons, and I hope this movie wakes people up to the Industry, and I hope all those involved in the class action (for whatever their personal reasons) are victorious.

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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2003, 10:27:00 PM »
Posted: 2003-07-29 09:56:00  
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Carey,
I've following this discussion and theoretically agree with you. In a perfect world, fact would be fact and fiction would be fiction. We don't live in that perfect world.
We do live in a world where the majority of people know and understand that many truthful accounts are presented as fiction. The writer/producer wants to be able to "embellish" where they like.
Personally, I don't put much weight on this movie, or any documentary based on fact, shutting down the industry. Or making any significant difference. It's just not going to happen that way. There's too much politics involved. Most people will watch it (even a factual documentary), say "how terrible" or "the kid must have deserved it", then go back to their apathetic lives. This is not the basket to put our eggs into.
It's not realistic, from my perspective to expect so much of this one piece of entertainment. Yes, entertainment, it's a movie, provocative, but a movie.
I visited a message board and read young people's thoughts and interests about this movie. They don't have a clue what it's about. They don't know about WWASP or how many of these places actually exist. They are interested in other aspects of the movie and will see it because they appreciate the producer.
And, it's not the producer's responsibility to depict the truth and expose all the horrors of WWASP. I find it admirable that they will honor the teens who have died and that they provide links at the movie webpage. That alone will raise a few eyebrows and may cause people to do a little surfing to find out more. Surely those who do will stumble upon this message board, or a similar one. THEN, they can read real life accounts.
As to the testimony. No one can predict how that will go. Your fears are valid to the point that the judge may be ignorant. Let's hope for the best. Personally, I can't imagine why someone involved in a lawsuit would purposely take any action that would harm the case, further that their attorney would allow such.
If you are beating around the bush trying to expose that there are some shady dealings then perhaps you should just speak your imaginings. I get the feeling that you may be privy to inside information that you are only hinting about, or posing questions about in hopes that someone else will do the research to prove your imaginings.

I highly respect you. When I read that you broke your kids out of Dundee, I saved the article, even posted it here. You became one of my heroes (and still are) and stood out as a brave example to other parents. My hope for you is that you are able to put this on the back burner and wait to see what the final outcome is, put your attention elsewhere. Or investigate, dig deeper and present some facts that support your imaginings. (I don't mean imaginings in a negative way- we all imagine possibilities, everyday) Honestly, I still remain a bit confused and have a couple of times questioned why you were so consumed with this issue and the fact that it will be fictional.
The point that we live in a world that is less than perfect has been established, and that this movie will not be the "saving grace" for those still incarcerated. No sense to continue beating a dead horse. My greatest fear is that you, one of the staunchest allies in this effort, will loose credibility because you are so defensive about this issue.
With genuine respect,
Deborah
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2003, 10:55:00 PM »
I do have doubts and I do question how it all came to pass, for good reasons.

But your point is well taken!  I pray the judge will be able to see through the fog.  Basically this case will be a he said she said issue.  Therefore the he saids and she saids will need to be free of any conflicting interests.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2003, 12:58:00 AM »
Does anyone think Ryan even knows what the truth is  anymore?  :lol:
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2003, 02:41:00 AM »
Of course he does, hes the only one exposing the truth while all you people are just sitting around talking about the kid. Know wondor hes made a huge difference. Carey, how many posts do you have to make until you realize your writing never got you anywhere in the first place hun. Support truth or get a life.

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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2003, 03:44:00 AM »
Amen to that! Finally, someone actually taking action rather then sitting around waiting for other people. This kid has more will power then most of the people in here put together. You people do nothing but debate all day long and dont make any difference. Makes sense with how many boards you guys have put together about him. Cant get enough can you? Think the purpose of these boards over, WILL SOMEONE BRING UP THE TRUE ISSUE OF WWASP BEATING KIDS? You are only letting them have control if you dont bring up the real purpose of this board.

WWASP IS BEATING KIDS INTO SUBMISSION FOR PROFIT, DO YOUR RESEARCH.

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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2003, 03:49:00 AM »
first of all, that kid is cute, why in the world would someone send him to a different country to get beat? Will someone tell me when i can watch this movie he is in????
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2003, 04:14:00 AM »
ACTUALLY, there has been a death in the hands of wwasp! It was at TRANQUILITY BAY!

The only living proof of the so called "graduates" is the successful brainwashing methods they fell into while being in the hands of wwasp.

wwasp is bein sued. Every victim's story of wwasp matches. Another one of wwasps facility's was just shut down a few months ago while the owner was arrested.

Do your own research on wwasp, because if you put 2 and 2 together then you get what the world is about to see about wwasp.

However, they can offer you services.
That is if you want to pay a couple thousand dollars a month to have your kid illegally incarcerated while they lie to his or her parents while the kid is forced into submission into believing there brainwashing methods. There is no way around there beliefs, they are right no matter what and if you dont like it then it looks like your kid is in for a beating.

Thats the beauty of personal opionion's, i guess the wwasps dont want the public to know the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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