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[Anonymous]

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In an effort to further encourage the developmental growth and confidence in Hidden Lake Academy we have created an Advisory Council. It is our hope that by viewing a list of people by their home state, who vouch for the integrity of the school, will give prospective parents the encouragement to call and discuss the possible enrollment opportunities for their child.

Alabama
Jim and Jane Barganier
Mike and Kent Jenkins
Ronald & Daphne Reed
Walter & Beth Wright
Florence & Bob Young
Arizona
Herman and Jodi Essert
Connecticut
Peter and Emily Buch
Florida
John and Diana Cloud
James L. Ferraro, Esq.
Charles and MaryAnn Makekau
Robert & Dorey Scott
Georgia
Elinor Breman
Lynn and Mike Cottrell
Ronald Gann
Craig and Nancy Mento
Thornton Morris
Janet Page, Ph.D.
Marvin and Janice Shoob
 Illinois
James R. and Nancy Malik
Kentucky
John and Kathy Knotts
Louisiana
Nathan & Erica Hoffman
Peter and Bonnie Waters
Ohio
Jeff and Heather Fisher
North Carolina
David Ball
Steve and Linda Block
Lane & Robin Byrd
South Carolina
Bob and Pat DeGregorio
Texas
Daniel and Garianne Fuentes
Bernard and Mary Ellen Malone
Virginia
Diane Hickert-Hill
Robert and Margaret Rashti
 
 

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Judge Marvin Shoob, is a Federal sitting senior judge(North Georgia County Courthouse), next to Senior Judge William O'Kelley(presides over the class action lawsuit, Ryan et al, vs. Hidden Lake Academy, same distirct, same court). Judge Shoob is on Hidden Lake Academy's web-site, under "Advisory Council"(see above) professing the integrity of the school tp prospective families.  Judge Shoob is a public figure in service  thus accountable to the people he serves. This is totally irresponsible and reprehensible.  "For the People, by the People", "Preserve and Protect".   This is gross violation of ethics, totally misleading.  How on earth can a Senior Judge be advocating for a school's integrity and soundness when it is in legal default on all its debts including a judgement issued in his own court district and now will be sold on the courthouse steps? It is an embarassment to the court.
If Judge Shoob was not made aware of his place on the "Advisory Council" on Hidden Lake Academy's web-site, next to Thornton Morris, please,(maybe Judge Shoob was not aware of the lawsuit in his own district) he damn well should be and so should Judge O'Kelley.  "Too Close for Comfort" is an understatement.  This does not look good.  Just how far does Buccellato's arm stretch?

[Anonymous]

Thank goodness there is someone giving an effort to counter all this crap about the school.  I am a parent of a child currently enrolled at HLA, and can tell you that the counselors there truly care about what they are doing.  Unlike what I can say for most of the poeple posting on this website.  What they are trying to do to the school is what sends people to Hell when they die.  What sort of life do you think these people have if they are spending it trying to destroy an institution like this.  This is a difficult thing for families to endure and requires a lot of blind trust.  I can tell you I am not the only one that has that for the school and the results in my daughter are outstanding.  My hope is that this school will survive this storm and continue to provide for these families that need them.  Parents, if you are considering sending your child there, I would be glad to talk to you about it.  This has been a media blitz that has hurt this school and it saddens me both for the school and the nice folks that want to destroy it.  I am not on the list and I am sure there are many more that aren't as well that feel the same way.  i would be happy to talk to anyone about this.  214-986-8787

[Anonymous]

Relying on 'blind trust" is what can get your daughter hurt real bad, perhaps irrevocably, perhaps for life. Are you willing to take that chance?

You say results are currently "outstanding," but what you are seeing is not the behavior of someone who naturally behaves that way, but someone who is coerced into compliance as the lesser of several evils. Do you think this is really going to last? Do you think there might not be rebound or backlash coming further on down the pike?

[Anonymous]

Judge Marvin Shoob, is a Federal sitting senior judge(North Georgia County Courthouse), next to Senior Judge William O'Kelley(presides over the class action lawsuit, Ryan et al, vs. Hidden Lake Academy, same distirct, same court). Judge Shoob is on Hidden Lake Academy's web-site, under "Advisory Council"(see above) professing the integrity of the school tp prospective families. Judge Shoob is a public figure in service thus accountable to the people he serves. This is totally irresponsible and reprehensible. "For the People, by the People", "Preserve and Protect". This is gross violation of ethics, totally misleading. How on earth can a Senior Judge be advocating for a school's integrity and soundness when it is in legal default on all its debts including a judgement issued in his own court district and now will be sold on the courthouse steps? It is an embarassment to the court.
If Judge Shoob was not made aware of his place on the "Advisory Council" on Hidden Lake Academy's web-site, next to Thornton Morris, please,(maybe Judge Shoob was not aware of the lawsuit in his own district) he damn well should be and so should Judge O'Kelley. "Too Close for Comfort" is an understatement. This does not look good. Just how far does Buccellato's arm stretch?

As tawdry as this looks, I'm not sure that anything can be done. It would be up to Judge William O'Kelley to recuse himself should his associations with Judge Shoob, and the latter's predilections, affect his ability to render impartial judgment.

It certainly does not speak well for Judge Marvin Shoob's strength of moral judgment. Perhaps Buccellato has put a "special spin" on the matter that overrides Shoob's common sense.

[Anonymous]

Thank goodness there is someone giving an effort to counter all this crap about the school.  I am a parent of a child currently enrolled at HLA, and can tell you that the counselors there truly care about what they are doing.  Unlike what I can say for most of the poeple posting on this website.  What they are trying to do to the school is what sends people to Hell when they die.  What sort of life do you think these people have if they are spending it trying to destroy an institution like this.  This is a difficult thing for families to endure and requires a lot of blind trust.  I can tell you I am not the only one that has that for the school and the results in my daughter are outstanding.  My hope is that this school will survive this storm and continue to provide for these families that need them.  Parents, if you are considering sending your child there, I would be glad to talk to you about it.  This has been a media blitz that has hurt this school and it saddens me both for the school and the nice folks that want to destroy it.  I am not on the list and I am sure there are many more that aren't as well that feel the same way.  i would be happy to talk to anyone about this.  214-986-8787

Blind trust, you are an imbicile....an absolute imbicile.  The only garbage that is going to Hell, you pontificating moron, is Buccellato - even that is up to God.  How blind can one be?  It is your child.

[Antigen]

This is not just 'a storm'. This is business as usual for the troubled parent industry. Goes all the way back to the Irvin Commission's investigation, The Federal Role in Behavior Modification back in `72 when The Seed came on the scene. The vast majority of us nice people trying to stop this madness are comprised of former clients, parents, staff and family of various similar programs. You seem like a sincere person. I bet dollars to donuts you'll be singing a different tune in a relatively short while.

Peace
 :peace:

[Anonymous]

Thank goodness there is someone giving an effort to counter all this crap about the school.  I am a parent of a child currently enrolled at HLA, and can tell you that the counselors there truly care about what they are doing.  Unlike what I can say for most of the poeple posting on this website.  What they are trying to do to the school is what sends people to Hell when they die.  What sort of life do you think these people have if they are spending it trying to destroy an institution like this.  This is a difficult thing for families to endure and requires a lot of blind trust.  I can tell you I am not the only one that has that for the school and the results in my daughter are outstanding.  My hope is that this school will survive this storm and continue to provide for these families that need them.  Parents, if you are considering sending your child there, I would be glad to talk to you about it.  This has been a media blitz that has hurt this school and it saddens me both for the school and the nice folks that want to destroy it.  I am not on the list and I am sure there are many more that aren't as well that feel the same way.  i would be happy to talk to anyone about this.  972-986-8787

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[Anonymous]

Dear Sycophant 88 is it?? "What sort of life do you think these people have if they are spending it trying to destroy an institution like this."  

You speak of HLA as if it were a 'Holy' institution.  No one had to destroy HLA.  Buccellato being the narcissist he is, did it himself.  You have no idea what
the man is capable of.

[Anonymous]

I guess Mr Holman...er...i meant Guest88 really aint that smart. first he thinks someone pointing out HLA's corruption is actually helping HLA...ROFLMAO...then he puts his phone number up which happens to be all over google.

Tom Holmon
Nonresidential Building Operator
15400 Knoll Trail Dr
Dallas,  Texas 75248-3467

http://property.zibb.com/profile/tom+ho ... 7/19788651

http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/Mainsite/Li ... c081A00001

http://www.selfstorageguide.com/pages/p ... pertyid=42

and you should really check this out:
http://www.loopnet.com/MyListings/tom@pauldarden.com

looks like MR. HOLMAN is putting up his property for sale to put his kid through HLA. if only he knew HLA was robbing him blind.


lemme guess tom...i "don mess wit texahs", right? ya'll got guns, huh?

they used to say the pen is mightier than the sword.

i say the keyboard is mightier than the gun, buddy.


and we gots ourselves lots o' dem keyboards typin their rage all aver de intranets....

[Anonymous]

I guess Mr Holman...er...i meant Guest88 really aint that smart. first he thinks someone pointing out HLA's corruption is actually helping HLA...ROFLMAO...then he puts his phone number up which happens to be all over google.

Tom Holmon
Nonresidential Building Operator
15400 Knoll Trail Dr
Dallas,  Texas 75248-3467

http://property.zibb.com/profile/tom+ho ... 7/19788651

http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/Mainsite/Li ... c081A00001

http://www.selfstorageguide.com/pages/p ... pertyid=42

and you should really check this out:
http://www.loopnet.com/MyListings/tom@pauldarden.com

looks like MR. HOLMAN is putting up his property for sale to put his kid through HLA. if only he knew HLA was robbing him blind.


lemme guess tom...i "don mess wit texahs", right? ya'll got guns, huh?

they used to say the pen is mightier than the sword.

i say the keyboard is mightier than the gun, buddy.


and we gots ourselves lots o' dem keyboards typin their rage all aver de intranets....

Actually, the first number is a cell and the second number is a land line, both lines registered to someone else, not coming up as Mr. Holman.  Home phone,go to white pages and do a reverse look up.  The cell, Intelius, 4.99 charge and one can locate the number in Irving, Texas.

[Anonymous]

According to "Our Redeemer Lutheran Church in Irving Texas" 2008 directory, the land line is not Mr. Holmans.  According to the white pages, it is not Mr. Holman's number...

[parent]

Looks like I struck a nerve here.  Gotta give it to you, you really have passion about this...but still no life.  You're pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Looks like I struck a nerve here.  Gotta give it to you, you really have passion about this...but still no life.  You're pathetic.

Well, they have been there, so of course they are emontional.

You would also be if you have relieved it instead of just working with your family therapist which have a job description handling miscommunication. What is miscommunication? That is a really hard question to answer.

As one of our directors wrote in our latest newsletter, even the youth placed in program don't have the whole picture:

Handling misinformation
Our family representatives are working hard during there years. There is just so much missinformation out there. As the existence of the Internet became more widespread, message boards with former students and their relatives appeared and they are really bad for the industry.

They all seems unhappy and for a parent seeking advise in situation of need they can scare potential customers away.

Of course non likes to be whipped, none likes to be put in chains. No question about that. But they forget that we are doing such things as part of the treatment process— therapy in a therapeutic boarding school is very much about showing the students that they have taken too much for granted.

If we don't make it hard, they have no motivation for joining the play and joy they see the other students having. They have no motivation for working the program. Parents can rest assure that we have developed our program in such a way that the students in the end will work the program—if the parents let us!

So don't let your children use you to manipulate them out of the program—trust your family representative.

Rick Norman
Director—Stalwarts of Support

I hope that programs some day will allow parents to actually live in a program for an entire week, eating the same food as the youth, sleeping on a wooden board if a matress or a blanket is not earned just to feel how much we atually do just to motivate the youth.

Until that moment, you will not as a parent fully understand why they are so emontional.

[Anonymous]

Looks like I struck a nerve here.  Gotta give it to you, you really have passion about this...but still no life.  You're pathetic.

Pathetic...  You struck a nerve with a "child' that had a horrible experience, walk with your head up, you should be proud.  Obviously, you have much in common  with the narcissist than owns the place.  The ORS, division of DHR in Georgia has approximately 4900 pages of documents you should have educated yourself with, before sending your child to HLA, in fact any school.  If that is not enough, contact the GAO and ask for their report.  What the GAO agents found backs up the entire lawsuit and then some.Again, the GAO has no prosecutorial powers, but may make recommendations for prosecution.  However, stand in line for that one, as there were many schools that were investigated and those with deaths are at the top of the list.  HLA only had several attempted suicides by hanging(one med-evac in a coma), hazing, rapes(due to negligence), zip ties,cold cocking and the list could go on.  Your child sleeps in mold, that has been painted over and over again(per employees).  There were affivdavits signed by parents, psychologists, counselors, children, hospitals, med transport, police reports; sexual harassment settlements with young counselors(every check),The Chapel Fund(every check), again the list could go on.  Buccellato is fortunate that the suit was filed as a class and negligence could not be filed along with it.  It was only filed as a class because so much was uncovered and so many families were hurt, there seemed to be no other options at the time. Now, possibly a "cluster suit" would have been better. He is fortunate that this did not go to trial.  Buccellato may also be fortunate that the Federal prosecutors via the GAO feel they have bigger fish to fry.

Now ask yourself how do I know all this?  About this time last year, two Federal agents from the GAO came knocking at my door and my life was once again turned upside down, for months, to seek justice and expose the truth.  A glimmer of hope, for those of us that saw the dark side of what you refer to as such a wonderful "institution".  The GAO has it "ALL".


Educate yourself before you sling arrows, otherwise you do sound like an imbecile or one of his lackey's,a toady, bought and paid for with no soul or human compassion left for another.

[Anonymous]

Thank goodness there is someone giving an effort to counter all this crap about the school.  I am a parent of a child currently enrolled at HLA, and can tell you that the counselors there truly care about what they are doing.  Unlike what I can say for most of the poeple posting on this website.  What they are trying to do to the school is what sends people to Hell when they die.  What sort of life do you think these people have if they are spending it trying to destroy an institution like this.  This is a difficult thing for families to endure and requires a lot of blind trust.  I can tell you I am not the only one that has that for the school and the results in my daughter are outstanding.  My hope is that this school will survive this storm and continue to provide for these families that need them.  Parents, if you are considering sending your child there, I would be glad to talk to you about it.  This has been a media blitz that has hurt this school and it saddens me both for the school and the nice folks that want to destroy it.  I am not on the list and I am sure there are many more that aren't as well that feel the same way.  i would be happy to talk to anyone about this.  214-986-8787

Try talking to those of us (and there are MANY) who have had kids go through the program.  Everyone I know who had a child there (and this is going back to 2003) can tell you the same thing.  It only LOOKS like your child is getting help. My son, at 22 years old, is worse than when he started HLA. He was 17 when he went there and stayed 2 years.