Freaky video on the PFC site

[wdtony]

Nothing screams cult desperation like the new freaky video on the home page of the Pathway site. Titled "A Father's story" this guy states that he was told to call Pathway Family Center. He insinuates that he put his son in Pathway Family Center but he never actually states that he placed his son there. Nowhere in that video does this guy claim to have been affiliated with PFC or that his son was in PFC. He never states that his son graduated from PFC. Weird, vague and what I've come to expect from PFC.

This guy mentions his son being 26 and that he (the father) states,"that's where I was 9 years ago". Now follow me here, that means his son was 17 when he (might have) placed him in PFC. Ok, let's say he did. Well if he placed him in PFC, why would his son have gone to (and graduated from) Miami University, located in Ohio (not far from KHK)? Could this possibly be a KHK family?

"Failure of being a father"?  What the hell does that mean?

Also, check out Kevin Beatty acting like he was a program parent on the video (on the testimonials page) although there is no mention in the PFC handbook about Beatty being a parent in his personal description. Hmmmm.


Check it out. http://www.pathwayfamilycenter.org/

[wdtony]

Found some interesting info, bear with me:

On the testimonials site, the same guy in the video has apparently written this statement, sound familiar?:

Graduate Parent Testimonial



Nine years ago we were lost. We were experiencing first hand the impact of teen drug usage and the cost to the entire family. Our son was out of control. He had been arrested 3 times within a 12 month period. The list of charges from his latest arrest were; DUI, Driving without a licenses, Complicity to theft, and Possession of a controlled substance. Need I go any further? As parents we thought we were doing all the right things. Our son was involved in multiple high school sports and the lead in his high school play. We attended church on a weekly basis. What was wrong with this picture? We didn't know where to turn. We tried counseling. My wife wanted to send him to military school; my youngest daughter didn't care where he went, just get him out of here. We found out about Pathway Family Center from a friend while eating lunch one day in the midst of our turmoil. He saved my son's life and our family.

I am happy to report that our son is doing great. He is now 25 years old, graduated from Miami University (I didn't think he would make it through high school) and resides in Carbondale CO. He has thanked his mother and me many times for the courage it took to save his life.

As a past parent and current member of the board of directors, I see the positive impact that Pathway has on families. As a substance abuse treatment center for adolescents and their families they provide drug screening, substance abuse assessments and referrals, outpatient services, and a unique treatment program in the Cincinnati, OH, Indianapolis, IN, Valparaiso, IN and Southfield MI areas. I am amazed daily at the life-changing results that Pathway has on so many families.

DON'T BE MISLEAD OR THINK THIS CAN'T HAPPEN TO YOU!! That's where I was 9 years ago and it almost cost me my family and a child. Although Pathway has helped many families during the last 15 years, there are still many families that don't know where to turn.

OK, same guy, on the BOD right but which program BOD?  so I did some digging......read on.......

[wdtony]

I knew I had seen Colorado somewhere online that was associated with KHK, I remember that because it seemed very odd to me that they were in Colorado.

So I found this on Fornits which lead me to the info I needed to connect the BOD guy (Randy Young, on the Ohio KHK BOD!!!) He mentioned being on "A" BOD, but there are/were 4 Boards for PFC/KHK.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7164&p=68334

His son was 21 in that article, plus 5 years would make him 26 as stated in the video. It also mentions him attending Miami University. So now I am onto something.

So I searched online with a vengeance and found this little page with the evidence I needed to connect everything together:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... D=59254730

http://friends.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... 933c3b7449

and guess who are on his friends list? A bunch-O-KHK peeps. Yep, this is the guy and he was definitely in KHK, not PFC. Not the same program?  Yeah right!

So this dad ( I am assuming he is Randy Young Sr. of "R. Young and associates") just made a video for PFC insinuating that PFC saved his son 9 years ago, ""EXCEPT"" 9 years ago was 2000 and PFC didn't legally acquire/absorb KHK until 2006 right?  I have other evidence from former "clients" [sic] that they were shipped between PFC and KHK programs several years ago before and after this so-called "convergence" in 2006. Now we have more evidence that PFC is once again confusing who is who when it comes to STRAIGHT INC. spinoff programs.

[psy]

So basically what you're saying is that KHK was affiliated wiht PFC before it was officially absorbed?  Interesting... though it could just mean that at the time the parent recorded the video he changed the name (or was asked to change the name at the request of the program).  They could have told him "KHK has changed names and is now Pathway Family Center, so please refer to it by it's new name".  Just playing devil's advocate here.  Anything is possible.

[Anonymous]

http://www.pathwayfamilycenter.org/Resp ... itics.html

   We are glad you are interested in Pathway Family Center regarding your child’s substance abuse issues.  The singular goal of Pathway is to provide young people with the means to end their dependence on drugs and alcohol and transition to a productive life.  We are confident that we can free your child of their substance abuse issues, as we have done for so many young people.

As you learn more about Pathway, you may come upon negative information from a small group of people.  They falsely claim that Pathway engages in inappropriate and abusive treatment programs and provide other false, misleading and/or incomplete information.  To our knowledge, none of these people are Pathway graduates or parents of graduates.  Our attempts to have a dialogue with these people have not been successful.  If you have any questions regarding our program, please ask one of our representatives.  We can also place you into contact with several of our graduates and/or graduate parents.

Some have suggested that Pathway take legal action against these individuals.  In this electronic age, however, it is unclear whether we could effectively prevent the dissemination of this information.  We also understand that legal action can be very expensive.  We prefer to dedicate our resources to the care of our patients. The following information provides additional information regarding our program and success rates.

    Pathway Family Center has provided high-quality adolescent substance abuse treatment since 1993.  Our program is based on the medical model of addiction as well as the 12 steps of Alcoholic's Anonymous.  We use a combination of cognitive, behavioral and psychodynamic therapy, which involves to some extent the patient’s entire family.  Our success is attributed to our well-rounded approach and our team of experts, consisting of Masters level therapists, psychologists, psychiatrists and  medical doctors.  

   In 2001, Dr. John Franklin of the University of Detroit Mercy College of Education and Human Services, conducted an independent study of outcomes for Pathway patients.  From a response of approximately 51 percent of all program participants, the survey found that 98 percent of those patients did not return to their prior drug severity and 82 percent remained clean and sober three years after treatment.  Dr. Franklin, stated, “I have worked in the addiction field for almost 27 years and I have not seen any program with outcome percentages this high.”

(Anyone have any info or a link to this supposed study??)

    The Pathway program meets the stringent accreditation requirements of the Commission on Accreditation of Rehabilitation Facilities (CARF) and licensing agencies in Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana.  In more than 15 years of operation, there has never been a lawsuit filed against Pathway for any reason, including the alleged mistreatment of a patient.

    We hope this information is helpful and encourage you to address any concerns you may have with one of our representatives. We look forward to helping your child.

[Anonymous]

yeah yeah yeah, its long been established that pfc was in formal cahoots with khk. But now, wdtony has EVIDENCE,  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:

yippee!!!!!!!!! Glad to see he FINALLY got some of his own.  ::OMG:: Welcome aboard   :cheers:


Better yet, maybe the program will finally be held accountable due to this incredible discovery.   ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::

[psy]

Our attempts to have a dialogue with these people have not been successful.

LOL!  Anybody heard a peep out of em?

(Anyone have any info or a link to this supposed study??)

It would probably be easiest to contact the guy at the university.  Landmark forum once claimed a psychologist in France said it was not a cult.  When they tracked down the psychologist and asked him, it turns out he never said that at all.

[wdtony]

So basically what you're saying is that KHK was affiliated wiht PFC before it was officially absorbed?  Interesting... though it could just mean that at the time the parent recorded the video he changed the name (or was asked to change the name at the request of the program).  They could have told him "KHK has changed names and is now Pathway Family Center, so please refer to it by it's new name".  Just playing devil's advocate here.  Anything is possible.

I agree, we do not know all of the details. What we do know is that PATHWAY put the video up on their site. This video was also just uploaded to youtube (Pathway's youtube account) yesterday and is called "A Father's Story" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obXcVrTfqlM

[psy]

So basically what you're saying is that KHK was affiliated wiht PFC before it was officially absorbed?  Interesting... though it could just mean that at the time the parent recorded the video he changed the name (or was asked to change the name at the request of the program).  They could have told him "KHK has changed names and is now Pathway Family Center, so please refer to it by it's new name".  Just playing devil's advocate here.  Anything is possible.

I agree, we do not know all of the details. What we do know is that PATHWAY put the video up on their site. This video was also just uploaded to youtube (Pathway's youtube account) yesterday and is called "A Father's Story" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obXcVrTfqlM

Well.  In any case, i'm downloading a backup version.  I am pretty sure the person in the video is an actor, though (a bad one at that too).  He doesn't seem like a father at all, doesn't look old enough to have a 20 some year old kid, and it sounds like he's reading from a teleprompter.

[wdtony]

I don't have the study in front of me but I have seen it before. It is terribly flawed and I wouldn't call it "science" for various reasons. A friend of mine (I won't mention their name) called the man (Dr. John Franklin) who conducted the study at University of Detroit Mercy and he wouldn't comment on the study. He is associated with the department of Counseling and Addiction studies

His contact info:

Dr. John T. Franklin Ph.D., NCC
Office: 238 Reno Hall
Phone: (313) 578-0468
E-Mail: http://www.springerlink.com/content/kt85n77812gt7522/

Abstract

Treatment programs for substance-disordered adolescents increasingly use family and Twelve-Step orientations. Pathway Family Center adds to that model a long term stay (9 to 15 months), a day treatment setting, and the unique feature of temporarily placing the client with the family of another client who has progressed further in the program. This outcome study surveyed the 100 clients and their parents from the first five years of the program, using mailed questionnaires and telephone interviews. Information was collected from 51% of clients and 61% of parents, and client-parent agreement was high. Ninety-eight percent of adolescents reported that they did not return to prior drug severity, 51% reported no use since discharge, 23% reported one or two relapses, 88.2% reported improved family relations, and 90.2% reported improved quality of life. In comparing those who remained completely abstinent with those who relapsed, the non-relapsers were twice as likely to have a diagnosis of uni-polar depression at admission. We hypothesize that the depression is associated with hitting bottom, an indication that the client may be motivated to commit to major change. These outcomes compare very favorably with those of other adolescent treatment programs.

[wdtony]

More Randy Young from The Straights:

11-14-04

http://www.thestraights.com/articles/ki ... innati.htm

The Enquirer article features a 21 year old man named Randy Paul Young who has kicked his drug habit at Kids Helping Kids. It includes a prominent picture of Randy shown with his mother and father--Randy and Resa Young. [Bonfield fails to point out that a Randy Young is on the BOD of Kids.]

Charges against Randy Paul for stealing beer from Kroger have been dropped (though ironically Kroger was one of the principals that sued Straight to get its money back from the sale of the old Straight property). That's good, but if Randy and another man both asked you for a job and you recalled Randy's picture in the newspaper, who would you hire? If KHK encouraged Randy to go public and show his picture, I would say, "how dare them!"

Perhaps Randy Paul will get married one day and have children. Perhaps a more mature Randy Paul would not want his kids to know about his history of stealing and drug use. Regardless of how he may feel later in life he has made a public document of his history that he can never erase. So who really benefits from The Enquirer article. Randy Paul or Kids Helping Kids? And what about Randy Paul's parents. They're in the photo too, gleaming. Their message is clear: Hey, look where our boy's been, but now, thanks to Kids Helping Kids, he's a successful student at Miami University. Mr. Bonfield, doesn't it seem a bit weird that a mom and dad would go along with your expose of their son?


Update 11-25-04
"Bonfield does not report that his paper has a financial operating agreement with The Cincinnati Post and that the Post and TV station WPCO are owned by E. W. Scripps Company. Daniel J. Castellini is a senior vice president at Scripps and also on the Advisory Board for Kids Helping Kids. Also though he identifies Randy Paul Young's father as Randy Young, Bonfield does not state that a Randy Young is a director at Kids. Finally, for the record, Norma Rashid, former anchor at WLWT News, was a former Kid's director."

[Anonymous]

That story matches up with Randy Y**ngs Jrs (Miami, Colorado, the time period), but that guy is not his dad, or at least not how I remember Randy Sr. but I didn't know him well enough to say that with certainty.  Randy Sr. was gun-ho about the program, coming into KHK years after his son graduated to speak about how great it is, etc.  I would not be surprised that his support continued after the change to PFC. IF this is about Randy Jr. he definitely was a KHK client way before any mention of PFC.  However, I bet they just changed the name because KHK is now PFC.  Not sure how this helps any. Either way, this looks like a bad infomercial for PFC, like they hired a cheap actor or something, it doesn't look real to me.

[wdtony]

That story matches up with Randy Y**ngs Jrs (Miami, Colorado, the time period), but that guy is not his dad, or at least not how I remember Randy Sr. but I didn't know him well enough to say that with certainty.  Randy Sr. was gun-ho about the program, coming into KHK years after his son graduated to speak about how great it is, etc.  I would not be surprised that his support continued after the change to PFC. IF this is about Randy Jr. he definitely was a KHK client way before any mention of PFC.  However, I bet they just changed the name because KHK is now PFC.  Not sure how this helps any. Either way, this looks like a bad infomercial for PFC, like they hired a cheap actor or something, it doesn't look real to me.

The man in the video doesn't introduce himself, so I suppose anything is possible. The words he utters on the video are almost identical to one of the "parent testimonials" on Pathway Family Center's Testimonial page. This testimonial seems intentionally vague and confusing.