I suspect you really don't know what we do. Lumping all educational consultants together is like lumping all people of the same race together. It is stereotyping.
If you take a close look, you will very likely disagree with us on some things, but if you really take a close look, you will see that different educational consultants do different things. Most (not quite all) of the young people we have worked with have feedback for us on the range from neutral to positive. We have made mistakes along the way and we try to learn from them. We are not aware of any young people who think we have abused them or knowingly allowed others to do so.
OK. Now that is a bald face lie, if you are in fact Tom Croke. I know for a fact of a kid who you referred to Benchmark who was not happy at all with his placement (I think we both know who we are talking about. Initials are BW) and would definitely contest that statement. I'm pretty sure you knew about his dissatisfaction as well, either directly, through his parents, or through me, personally.
Secondly, I doubt those kids you sent to Samoa (which you referred to, unless I'm mistaken) were extraordinarily pleased with your referrals. Tell me. Have any of the places you have referred to been shut down due to lawsuits, state action, or other consequences as a result of allegations of abuse and/or fraud?
How many
"young people" do you interview after the fact regarding their satisfaction/sucess? Long term? Or do you rely on the parents for satisfaction? (because that's what this industry is really about: satisfying parental whims)
You were careful to state "
We are not aware of any young people who think we have abused them or knowingly allowed others to do so." (emphasis on knowingly). What about negligently? Is that any better? Just because you didn't know does not excuse it if you didn't
want to know. Do you even make an effort to follow up on allegations of abuse / mistreatment / fraud / fraudulent misrepresentation?
(Maybe posting this will lead someone to raise that, but we haven't heard it from them) Oops. I know one who might be pretty unhappy with us. Initials are JS and he's from New York City. I would not mind an opportunity to sit down with JS on equal terms and discuss what happened and how that situation got messed up. He's a neat kid. But that sort of thing is pretty unusual.
I think I know who you're talking about there (initials and location match, anyway), and no, he wasn't happy with your referral at all... Yet (if we're taliing about the same person) you still refer to the program he was in. Why is that? Exactly how many allegations of abuse and/or fraud (as in fraudulent misrepresentation) does it take with you? What is your cut-off point?
If you are trying to shut down every school or program that works with kids, we are at odds.
Oh it works, does it? Can you prove it works compared to a group with no treatment at all? Have there been independent double blind studies done? It seems to me that if you advertise a product as "working" you need to prove it as such, otherwise it's false or misleading advertising.
If you want to see the quality improved -- both with respect to effectiveness and positive and respectful treatment of young people -- we are allies.
With all due respect, I don't believe you really care about the quality of the places you refer. I suspect you, like many others in your profession, take kickbacks for referrals as there is nothing illegal about it. You can deny it, sure, and I might be wrong, but how is a parent (or anybody for that matter) to know for sure? If you're honest, the answer is: they can't. So then the question is: why should they trust you? Because you purport to have experience in the area? Because you have a nice website and a nice smile? Because you sound professional? What are your actual academic credentials to be dealing with kids or recommending ANY sort of
treatment. Are you a doctor?
Look at http://www.familylight.com/link3/3.05/3 ... sitive.htm as an example. Some readers here will disagree with us and that is your privilege, but we think prodding all programs to move that direction is a good thing. I am sure some of you will think we don't go far enough, but I think most of you will believe this is an improvement over what has gone before.
If you disagree (or if you agree) with what we say, send us a note at FamilyLightResponse@yahoo.com. We don't publish flames. We wil publish what people say when they can disagree without being disagreeable.
Here we leave it up to the reader to decide what is and what is not disagreeable and/or a flame. Anything else is censorship based on a subjective judgment. Nobody has the right to tell you what you can or can not read. Anybody who says differently seeks to control you.
We agree that some educational consultants do things that are not appropriate. I can assure you that not all of my colleagues love me.
Again, with all due respect, I've heard that exact same line from other educational consultants (who take kickbacks) who have said the exact same song and dance (again, I think you know who I am talking about. Initials are SS).
I believe our common concern is to stop abuses and get young people meaningful help in ways that do not inflict needless pain. Readers here will disagree with each other and with me on how best to do that and who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. But I believe we all really want the same things in the end.
If you think I am onto something, help me out. Link to my website. Steer people to my website.
LOL. You could hardly pick a worse place to advertise.
Give me responsible comments and feedback (not flames). I won't publish specific allegations of wrongdoing with programs
Of course not. And you'll actively defend any accusations against programs without bothering to even respond to an email to follow up on the allegations (again, I think we both know what we're talking about here). Yet you'll actively defend the programs and go to bat for them in court
without even talking to the "other side". It's almost as if you're not interested in the truth at all or are so single-mindedly *sure* of what you *know* to be true you
aren't even willing to consider any other possibilities. Whether that is out of blind faith or malice based on greed is irrelevant. At best it's negligent. You aren't selling any ordinary product here. You're selling what you represent as a
medical treatment.
but I will call attention the questions people should ask programs. Posting flames on this website, you folks can't be reached with lawsuits.
Wrong. If a lawsuit has *merit* there is a course of action. Even here. It is perfectly possible to sue a john doe and has been done *many* times in the past. If the lawsuit, on the other hand, is a baseless slapp, it's going to end up hurting the plaintiff more than anybody else in the long run (and again, I think we're both on the same page here).
I can and I must be careful. But if I know a program is abusing kids, that knowlege will have an impact on what I do, and I will find a way to make that facts surface.
OK. Without investigating (even following up on an email) and without publishing anything, how, exactly, will you do that and how will anybody know if you are actually doing anything?