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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2008, 06:12:49 PM »
Ajax13 disclaimer:

Warning!! He is a confirmed liar.  He has no experience with AARC and is stuck taking care of his wife who has major substance abuse issues.  So he comes on fornits to vent his anger towards places which rehabilitate because he wishes his wife had taken her chance more seriously but seems more inclined to blame others for his situation.
If you review the study AARC has one of the highest success rates of the top 5 programs:

85% of the grads are clean and sober after 4 years and
93% are clean and sober after their first 12 months after graduating.

Study – http://fornits.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=6qtomta92gkab729sc9sv6htk0&topic=25625.0
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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2008, 06:14:55 PM »
Still waiting to hear who that psychiatrist is at AARC, along with the licensed psychologist and the registered social worker we were told were on staff.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2008, 06:26:32 PM »
Ajax13 disclaimer:

Warning!! He is a confirmed liar.  He has no experience with AARC and is stuck taking care of his wife who has major substance abuse issues.  So he comes on fornits to vent his anger towards places which rehabilitate because he wishes his wife had taken her chance more seriously but seems more inclined to blame others for his situation.
If you review the study AARC has one of the highest success rates of the top 5 programs:

85% of the grads are clean and sober after 4 years and
93% are clean and sober after their first 12 months after graduating.

Study – http://fornits.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=6qtomta92gkab729sc9sv6htk0&topic=25625.0
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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2008, 06:43:11 PM »
No AARColyte able to demonstrate any evidence to support the claim that I have made up anything.  Everyone, take out your big books and start gnashing your teeth.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2008, 06:44:34 PM »
Ajax13 disclaimer:

Warning!! He is a confirmed liar.  He has no experience with AARC and is stuck taking care of his wife who has major substance abuse issues.  So he comes on fornits to vent his anger towards places which rehabilitate because he wishes his wife had taken her chance more seriously but seems more inclined to blame others for his situation.
If you review the study AARC has one of the highest success rates of the top 5 programs:

85% of the grads are clean and sober after 4 years and
93% are clean and sober after their first 12 months after graduating.

Study – http://fornits.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=6qtomta92gkab729sc9sv6htk0&topic=25625.0
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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2008, 06:46:18 PM »
Still nothing.  This inability to demonstrate any evidence that what I have said is untrue is brings to mind AARC's inability to demonstrate that their treatment centre has a license.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2008, 06:47:24 PM »
Ajax13 disclaimer:

Warning!! He is a confirmed liar.  He has no experience with AARC and is stuck taking care of his wife who has major substance abuse issues.  So he comes on fornits to vent his anger towards places which rehabilitate because he wishes his wife had taken her chance more seriously but seems more inclined to blame others for his situation.
If you review the study AARC has one of the highest success rates of the top 5 programs:

85% of the grads are clean and sober after 4 years and
93% are clean and sober after their first 12 months after graduating.

Study – http://fornits.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=6qtomta92gkab729sc9sv6htk0&topic=25625.0
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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2008, 06:48:22 PM »
AARC still has no license, no psychiatrist, no licensed psychologist, and no registered social worker on staff.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2008, 06:48:58 PM »
Ajax13 disclaimer:

Warning!! He is a confirmed liar.  He has no experience with AARC and is stuck taking care of his wife who has major substance abuse issues.  So he comes on fornits to vent his anger towards places which rehabilitate because he wishes his wife had taken her chance more seriously but seems more inclined to blame others for his situation.
If you review the study AARC has one of the highest success rates of the top 5 programs:

85% of the grads are clean and sober after 4 years and
93% are clean and sober after their first 12 months after graduating.

Study – http://fornits.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=6qtomta92gkab729sc9sv6htk0&topic=25625.0
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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2008, 05:03:02 PM »
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AARC still has no license, no psychiatrist, no licensed psychologist, and no registered social worker on staff.

no licensed plumber, licensed pediatrician, licensed engineer, licensed chiropractor, licensed psychologist, 1 person with a class 2 license, no licensed electrician or licensed neurologist.

But when they need one they arrange to have one there like everyone else.  No one keeps all these licensed people on staff, even some hospitals.
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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2008, 07:51:00 PM »
You might find that hospitals generally keep licensed professional staff on the premises providing treatment.  As a rule, in a hospital you won't find many unlicesned amateurs providing treatment.
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MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2008, 07:59:53 PM »
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You might find that hospitals generally keep licensed professional staff on the premises providing treatment.  As a rule, in a hospital you won't find many unlicesned amateurs providing treatment.

Yes they generally do if they are needed 24/7.  If they are not then they are not kept on staff.  It depends on how much a person is utilized during the course of a day or week if they need to be brought on full time or not.  Licensed chiropractors may be called in during an emergency or the patient would be sent to see them at their location, as an example.  Depends on the hospital, size, location on how staffed the are.
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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2008, 08:16:46 PM »
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You might find that hospitals generally keep licensed professional staff on the premises providing treatment.  As a rule, in a hospital you won't find many unlicesned amateurs providing treatment.

Yes they generally do if they are needed 24/7.  If they are not then they are not kept on staff.  It depends on how much a person is utilized during the course of a day or week if they need to be brought on full time or not.  Licensed chiropractors may be called in during an emergency or the patient would be sent to see them at their location, as an example.  Depends on the hospital, size, location on how staffed the are.

Agreed, If you are downtown manhatten then you probably have a full staff of almost every profession including translators of 80 different languages.  But places like Red lodge , Montana or East Buttuck may only have a receptionist and the doctor needs to be called in from the local trout stream in an emergency and specialists are located in neighboring cities.
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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2008, 10:34:47 PM »
Where does the provision of treatment by amateurs, such as the entire saff of AARC, fit into this picture?  As far as I know, AARC is located in a major metropolitan centre and purports to provide long-term treatment to chemically addicted youth and their family.  Why are amateurs like the Wiz, and his entire clinical and peer staff, providing treatment to anyone?
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MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: Waiting On a Friendly
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2008, 12:39:36 PM »
Bullshit~  No one has ever mentioned the words "get honest" to me in the real world, business world, or elsewhere.  That is cultspeak that I haven't heard since being blasted and spat upon in my own group.  Those who continue to speak such jargon are still under the influence (or not too far from the influence) of the greed based mind control cults that took the lives of so many and ruined the lives of so many others.  People don't motivate in the real world, people don't beltloop each other in the real world, and people don't use terminology such as "get honest" in the real world.  

The people here have subjectively EXPERIENCED abuse under the guise of rehabilitation and are able to identify and recognize abuse that continues today.  I don't think those here on fornits overestimate or exaggerate anything as you mentioned.  There have been numerous studies, lawsuits, news reports, allegations, investigations and even congressional hearings on continued abuse that continues to take the lives of way too many children, and ruin and wreck the lives of others.


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It will continue until he begins to get honest.

rtynjk, that cultspeak tells me exactly who I should believe.

This is one of the reasons why cults and abusive programs are so overstated here on fornits.  A person uses a phrase which you believe to be unique to a cult and that person is branded as a cult member when in fact that phrase is used everyday in the business world.  I have seen the same thing done when someone talks about getting screamed at or punished in a program then the whole program is considered abusive and any program which employees move to automatically is considered abusive.  I believe that abusive programs exist but there are way less than everyone here would have you believe and statements like the one above support this conclusion.
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