The Guinea Pig Ranch

[TheWho]

If you are curious about what is contained in the study, I would wholeheartedly encourage you to read the study.  I would encourage anyone else who feels that the study itself, it's methodology, or the data contained therein are relevant to the discussions in this forum, to read the study and draw their own conclusions.

I think we can agree that everyone should read the study.  But if you reference figures you claim came from the study you should be able to point to them or paste up a copy of the referenced piece.  The following is a table taken from the study and I can provide a link for you if you like.

Take another look:
Table 2 Longest period of continuous sobriety of interviewed graduates, maintained by time since graduation
Time since graduation   One month   Six months   Twelve months or more
One year or less (n=29)   0%   6.9%   93.1%
Two to three years (n=42)   2.49%   4.8%   92.9%
Four or more years (n=14)   0%   14.3%   85.7%

Toss up the relapse figures and we can compare them.  Relapse isnt the end of the world.  It will probably happen to almost all of them at some point so it is not something to be ashamed of.  Just not sure where yur numbers came from.  Is it something you made up?

[ajax13]

As the study is available on this forum, I don't know why you would offer to post a link.  However, that aside, the fact that a minimum of 52% of former prisoners in the study had relapsed is important when the fact that an 85% rate of continuous abstinence has been used to solicit funding for AARC. 

[TheWho]

As the study is available on this forum, I don't know why you would offer to post a link.  However, that aside, the fact that a minimum of 52% of former prisoners in the study had relapsed is important when the fact that an 85% rate of continuous abstinence has been used to solicit funding for AARC. 

Take another look:
Table 2 Longest period of continuous sobriety of interviewed graduates, maintained by time since graduation
Time since graduation   One month   Six months   Twelve months or more
One year or less (n=29)   0%   6.9%   93.1%
Two to three years (n=42)   2.49%   4.8%   92.9%
Four or more years (n=14)   0%   14.3%   85.7%

85% of the grads are sober after 4 years and
93% are sober after their first 12 months after graduating.

Lets add your table and take a look.

[ajax13]

I dont' have any tables.  I've been referring to data contained in a study written by All About Receiving Cash.  If you were mistakenly under the impression that I have undertaken such a study, I can't help you.  If you do happen to come across the double blind information related to AARC's 2005 study, by all means let readers of this forum know about it.

[TheWho]

I dont' have any tables.  I've been referring to data contained in a study written by All About Receiving Cash.  If you were mistakenly under the impression that I have undertaken such a study, I can't help you.  If you do happen to come across the double blind information related to AARC's 2005 study, by all means let readers of this forum know about it.

so you lied about your girlfriend at AARC and now you are making up statistics about AARC?  Sorry Ajax, you have just been exposed.  Your girlfriend never went there and you are pissed because you are part of the 15% who cant stay clean and are now pissed at AARC for it.  Well WAAA,  WAAA  dont blame others because you cant stay sober.  It wasnt AARC's fault you took drugs and drank.  They were there to help, you screwed it up not them.


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[ajax13]

I have been exposed.  Any of you reading here who have met me, or who were in All About Receiving Cash along with my Special Lady Friend, time to wake up and realize that the Who has fractured your delusional state of reality.  Thanks Who!

[TheWho]

ajax13, The sad part is there are people on this forum who have been hurt by programs and come on here to tell their stories and with people like you pretending to have a wife who attended a program and making up lie after lie it discredits all the other people who are trying to get the truth out.

Yeah you had me fooled (trolled me pretty good as they say) and can have a laugh at my expense, but you made it that much harder for readers to believe the other stories on this site.  I mean, WTF, it was really stupid of you just for a laugh.



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[ajax13]

Now that you have exposed me and my wife, all of the people who were in AARC who read this forum will have to deprogram themselves of their memories of her and her family, whom they imagined to have been involved with AARC for over ten years.  Any of you former AARC prisoners with whom I have spoken on the telephone, sat down and chatted with, or otherwise communicated with, it was all in your head.