Entire evaluation study of AARC - Dr. Michael Patton

[ajax13]

Bottom line it is a solid report.  there is no way you can poke holes in it because the study was done by independent people who have a great reputation in their respective fields.
But in any event it doesnt matter what you or I think.  The parents will read it and make up their own minds.  Its good to see these reports starting to come out, long time coming.

Only 85 of 100 clients participated, yet AARC included the 15 others as part of the study. 
95% of the clients were being treated for marijuana addiction and  85% for alcohol, in spite of folks like Heather Forsythe telling us that AARC is treating kids who shoot cocaine in between their toes.

"For the purposes of this classification, we accept that dependence does occur with marijuana.(Association, 1994; Earleywine, 2002)"

I guess so, or you don't have a client base.

The Wiz's bullshit about prolonged drug use retarding the development of the kids is particularly ridiculous in light of the fact that he takes in twelve-year-olds.

Just couldn't stay away, huh Joshy?

[TheWho]

The 2005 study has been used to solicit money both in the Alberta Legislature, and from charity sources.  

Successful outcome studies are typically used to leverage sources to help grow the industry.  This includes soliciting donations to lobbying for legislature changes or referendums.

The authors include the Wiz, AARC's Executive Director; Goresky, AARC board member and father of AARC client and staffer Mr. Garrison Goresky; Natalie Oldcomer, AARC staffer, former client, wife of former client and staffer, and sibling of mutiple former AARC prisoners; Peter Choda, freelance AARColyte and provider of AARC diagnosis confirmation; Mr. DoctorPatton, Union Institute faculty member, and Val Haymaker, Hazelden something or other.

Correct although I believe Natalies last name was listed as “Lirenman” in the study.  Look under “Authors” at the very top.

Every single one of these people is in a conflict of interest.  Vause had a financial relationship with Union, sending money from AARC out of the country to Union in the form of scholarships for AARColytes to Union.  This compromises Patton.  Patton also has a relationship to Hazelden.

I don’t see any of these things as compromises to the study.  The study has been reviewed by the Alberta Legislature  as well as several charity sources none of which would part with any money if there was any hint of compromise in the study.  As far as Patton having a tie to Hazelden I feel this strengthens the validity of the outcome results.  Hazelden is very highly regarded in the area of Alcohol and Drug Dependency  Research and Clinical Practices

[TheWho]

Seems the more we peel away the layers the better this place looks.  I had no idea the study was presented to the Alberta legislature and that it got seal of approval from the Butler research facility at Hazelden where 2 of their members presided over the collection and presentation of the data.

Vauses degree was brought up and questioned and it has subsequentially been determined the university he received it from is accredited. 

I never really knew much about AARC until this dicussion, anyone have a link to their web site?  I assume it is in Canada

[Anonymous]

Seems the more we peel away the layers the better this place looks more we see how corrupt and incestuous this all is. 

Vauses degree was brought up and questioned and it has subsequentially been determined the university he received it from is accredited.

 

Really?  Where did that happen?

I never really knew much about AARC until this dicussion, anyone have a link to their web site?  I assume it is in Canada

[TheWho]

Union Institute & University is an accredited, private, international university that has, since 1964, redefined higher education by placing learners at the center of their own education. Union has administrative headquarters in Cincinnati, Ohio, and currently enrolls approximately 1,750 learners from all 50 states and more than 20 countries worldwide.

I apologize for Repairmans rudeness.  I never heard of AARC myself until reading about it here on fornits.  Here is a link that may help.
http://www.aarc.ab.ca/



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[ajax13]

"I had no idea the study was presented to the Alberta Legislature...I assume it's in Canada.."

Nope.  The study was presented to the Alberta Legislature, but AARC is in Vanuatu.

[Anonymous]

The 2005 study has been used to solicit money both in the Alberta Legislature, and from charity sources.  The authors include the Wiz, AARC's Executive Director; Goresky, AARC board member and father of AARC client and staffer Mr. Garrison Goresky; Natalie Oldcomer, AARC staffer, former client, wife of former client and staffer, and sibling of mutiple former AARC prisoners; Peter Choda, freelance AARColyte and provider of AARC diagnosis confirmation; Mr. DoctorPatton, Union Institute faculty member, and Val Haymaker, Hazelden something or other.

Every single one of these people is in a conflict of interest.  Vause had a financial relationship with Union, sending money from AARC out of the country to Union in the form of scholarships for AARColytes to Union.  This compromises Patton.  Patton also has a relationship to Hazelden.

REALLY Vincent - I would love to show this to Patton. He would get such a LAUGH out of your complete BS . . .  but you keep dreaming. Obviously it is quite difficult living your life; ya need to make things up about others as you stumble around. you are   ::fullofshit::

[ajax13]

Which part is made up?

[Anonymous]

The 2005 study has been used to solicit money both in the Alberta Legislature, and from charity sources.  The authors include the Wiz, AARC's Executive Director; Goresky, AARC board member and father of AARC client and staffer Mr. Garrison Goresky; Natalie Oldcomer, AARC staffer, former client, wife of former client and staffer, and sibling of mutiple former AARC prisoners; Peter Choda, freelance AARColyte and provider of AARC diagnosis confirmation; Mr. DoctorPatton, Union Institute faculty member, and Val Haymaker, Hazelden something or other.

Every single one of these people is in a conflict of interest.  Vause had a financial relationship with Union, sending money from AARC out of the country to Union in the form of scholarships for AARColytes to Union.  This compromises Patton.  Patton also has a relationship to Hazelden.

Independent, objective study my ass!!!!

[Trekker Jag]

95% of the clients were being treated for marijuana addiction

Marijuana is not addictive.  In fact, many reputable sources, including Stanton Peele, believe marijuana to be "ANTI-addictive".

So AARC can save kids from being addicted to a non-addictive substance?  Wow, what an accomplishment........

Marijuana is also legally tolerated in Canada, much like it is in the Pacific Coast states in the US, so the whole "decreasing criminal activity" argument won't work either.

More bullshit from AARC, designed to bilk parents and taxpayers out of more money so some psychopaths can continue their hobby of abusing children in the name of "therapy".

[ajax13]

"Vause, F. D. (1994). Project demonstrating excellence: The Alberta Adolescent Recovery Centre: A treatment centre for chemically dependent youth and their families. Unpublished PhD, The Union Institute, Cincinnati,Ohio."

This is the man that was being sold as an expert on addiction.  Why someone would consult an unpublished PhD from an obscure alternative school like the Union Institute is beyond me.  Unless of course, you're writing a study yourself about your own institution that you described in your PhD after you opened said institution.

[TheWho]

"Vause, F. D. (1994). Project demonstrating excellence: The Alberta Adolescent Recovery Centre: A treatment centre for chemically dependent youth and their families. Unpublished PhD, The Union Institute, Cincinnati,Ohio."

This is the man that was being sold as an expert on addiction.  Why someone would consult an unpublished PhD from an obscure alternative school like the Union Institute is beyond me.  Unless of course, you're writing a study yourself about your own institution that you described in your PhD after you opened said institution.

Why would you judge someone harshly for not publishing their dissertation?

[ajax13]

Stupid fuckhead, the issue is not whether someone chose to publish their dissertation.  The issue is that the cult leader in question is billed as an expert, yet has no published works in the field, not even his PhD.  Secondly, in fabricating this ridiculous study, rather than consulting peer-reviewed works published in journals, these assholes chose to consult the Wiz's unpublished PhD, in a manner similar to Miller Newton referring to his own bullshit works.
So, you are either one stunned piece of shit, who could not understand the argument being made, or you are a deceitful fucking worm attempting to derail the communication process by purposely misstating the issue.
Either way, go fuck yourself.

[TheWho]

Wow, you are very sensitive.  No one has ever spoken to me that way before, I apologize, but you should be aware that there are many people in history who became experts through exposure and self study.  A degree isn’t the only measurement of expertise on a subject.  Many become experts thru emersion.  This man may have spent many years doing what he is doing and gained his expertise that way.  Some people attain a phd and decide to publish it without having  any (or very little) working experience.  Take a look at this mans history he may have gained his experience prior to getting his Phd.  You may be surprised, a lot of people gain a degree later in life.

[ajax13]

I've responded to you like that a number of times, you lying puddle of piss. Why are you saying to take a look at this man's history, when you and everyone reading here knows what his history is.  Why?  Because you're a degenerate piece of garbage, and I strongly suspect a child-molester.  Again, go fuck yourself.