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Why all the negativity on Anecdotal data? I agree that there are better forms of data collection and presentation, but in the absence of long term controlled studies, anecdotal evidence is acceptable, revealing and educational....
Quote from: "TheWho"Why all the negativity on Anecdotal data? I agree that there are better forms of data collection and presentation, but in the absence of long term controlled studies, anecdotal evidence is acceptable, revealing and educational....Why so positive about anecdotal evidence? It's the absence of long term controlled studies that makes the industry look like the shabby puppy mill it is. How come there hasn't been a long term study in over twenty years?
Quote from: "HUNAN"Quote from: "TheWho"Why all the negativity on Anecdotal data? I agree that there are better forms of data collection and presentation, but in the absence of long term controlled studies, anecdotal evidence is acceptable, revealing and educational....Why so positive about anecdotal evidence? It's the absence of long term controlled studies that makes the industry look like the shabby puppy mill it is. How come there hasn't been a long term study in over twenty years?Well, I don’t take a real positive stand on anecdotal data, but in the absence of any other it can be very informative and better than nothing at all. It can help steer the ship and give one a sense for what is working and what is not. It can also pose a challenge to run statistical reports on some of the results.Not sure why there hasn’t been any studies done… my guess is that it usually comes down to money. Longer term studies are expensive and if the schools cannot see a way to recoup their investment (short term) then most would not be willing to shell out the cash....
Money? There doesn't seem to be a shortage of money for programs owned by Aspen, or UHS. I, and I alone, not "we", think you're rationalizing.
The Attack Therapy is probably THE most damaging part of TBSs and RTCs. It would be amusing watching them try to justify it if it wasn't so sad.
Opponents of "attack therapy" do not under-stand is that confrontation has proven effective to eradicate malignant, dangerous, vicious attitudes and acts. While some critics condemn confrontation to be "cruel," they need to remember that Dewey students have engaged in dangerous, often death-defying behavior which demands heroic intervention. Unless the therapist can persuade the youth to avoid a collision course with disaster, there can be profoundly serious consequences.
Quote from: "dfsght"The Attack Therapy is probably THE most damaging part of TBSs and RTCs. It would be amusing watching them try to justify it if it wasn't so sad.Opponents of "attack therapy" do not under-stand is that confrontation has proven effective to eradicate malignant, dangerous, vicious attitudes and acts. While some critics condemn confrontation to be "cruel," they need to remember that Dewey students have engaged in dangerous, often death-defying behavior which demands heroic intervention. Unless the therapist can persuade the youth to avoid a collision course with disaster, there can be profoundly serious consequences.
Dewey students have engaged in dangerous, often death-defying behavior which demands heroic intervention.
He's quoting Bratter to back Bratter's claims, which doesn't cut it.
Here's Bratter's "attack therapy" outcome study. How ironic Bratter was sentenced in Litchfield.http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-8337096.htmlMan sentenced in assault caseLITCHFIELD, Conn. -- The president of a private school in western Massachusetts was sentenced today to three years probation and ordered to make $50,000 charitable donation in the case involving a teen-age student who said he sexually assaulted her in 1993 at his Connecticut home. Thomas Bratter, the 55-year-old founder of the John Dewey Academy in Great Barrington, was sentenced in Litchfield Superior Court and also ordered to serve 500 hours of community service. Bratter, of Salisbury, Conn. had pleaded no contest to second-degree unlawful restraint. The John Dewey Academy is a school for at-risk adolescents.
That was 15 years ago!! Things change over time.just look at the articles on Straight and Synanon from the 1960's compared to how they fell about the now.