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Breakthrough Interventions
« on: March 03, 2008, 11:19:56 AM »
http://breakthroughinterventions.net/who.html

Ewwww ... not sure if others have heard of this org. but I thought I would post a link.
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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2008, 12:27:26 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
http://breakthroughinterventions.net/who.html

Ewwww ... not sure if others have heard of this org. but I thought I would post a link.

I love their definition of "intervention" : "Intervention (noun): a planned act of love and concern with key objectives."

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Our interventions address risky behavior such as:
Substance Abuse
Eating Disorders
Depression or Mood Disorders
Self-Harming Behaviors
Irritability
Apathy
School-Performance issues
Poor Self-Care
Distorted Self-Concept
Self-Defeating Behaviors

I love it how everybody fits into at least one of those categories.  And who the hell is to decide what is a "distorted self concept".
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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2008, 12:39:20 PM »
Yeah, good point Psy. 

Did you notice at least one staff member once worked for ASR?

Be interesting if any survivors of ASR know or remember these people.
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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2008, 12:44:32 PM »
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I love their definition of "intervention" : "Intervention (noun): a planned act of love and concern with key objectives."



Funny, Webster lists the definition of intervention as follows:


    in·ter·vene Listen to the pronunciation of intervene
Pronunciation:
    ?in-t?r-?v?n
Function:
    intransitive verb
Inflected Form(s):
    in·ter·vened; in·ter·ven·ing
Etymology:
    Latin intervenire to come between, from inter- + venire to come — more at come
Date:
    1587

1: to occur, fall, or come between points of time or events

2: to enter or appear as an irrelevant or extraneous feature or circumstance

3 a: to come in or between by way of hindrance or modification b: to interfere with the outcome or course especially of a condition or process (as to prevent harm or improve functioning)

4: to occur or lie between two things

5 a: to become a third party to a legal proceeding begun by others for the protection of an alleged interest

b: to interfere usually by force or threat of force in another nation's internal affairs especially to compel or prevent an action
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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2008, 12:47:47 PM »
LOLS, Psy - good catch!  Check this out.  That's 2 confirmed former ASR staff on board.  The other being the woman at the bottom of the about us page.  Maybe we should post a link to this thread in the ASR forum?

James Murray

James Murray now resides with his wife Phoebe in Williamsburg, Massachusetts.  He is a counseling supervisor at The Academy at Swift River, an emotional growth boarding school located in nearby Cummington.  He is a graduate of Kenyon College, not far from Columbus, where he majored in religious studies.

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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2008, 12:50:21 PM »
Whoops, sorry I meant LOLS, good catch Anne.  My bad. ;D
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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2008, 01:28:13 PM »
We collaborate with educational consultants and highly recommend their services. We also work in conjunction with family therapists, wilderness programs, therapeutic schools, treatment centers, pastoral counseling and colleges.

Hmmm.  Be interested to see which programs they work in "conjunction" with.
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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 07:23:21 PM »
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "psy"
I love their definition of "intervention" : "Intervention (noun): a planned act of love and concern with key objectives."



Funny, Webster lists the definition of intervention as follows:


    in·ter·vene Listen to the pronunciation of intervene
Pronunciation:
    ?in-t?r-?v?n
Function:
    intransitive verb
Inflected Form(s):
    in·ter·vened; in·ter·ven·ing
Etymology:
    Latin intervenire to come between, from inter- + venire to come — more at come
Date:
    1587

1: to occur, fall, or come between points of time or events

2: to enter or appear as an irrelevant or extraneous feature or circumstance

3 a: to come in or between by way of hindrance or modification b: to interfere with the outcome or course especially of a condition or process (as to prevent harm or improve functioning)

4: to occur or lie between two things

5 a: to become a third party to a legal proceeding begun by others for the protection of an alleged interest

b: to interfere usually by force or threat of force in another nation's internal affairs especially to compel or prevent an action

Interesting vernacular, What a great example of linguistic subterfuge.

Thanks Anne Bonney'

And to psy:

With the current social ills, I don't see how anyone who is mentally healthy wouldn't exhibit one of these behaviors. These behaviors are reactions to negative social stimuli, not an inherent action.

Substance Abuse
Eating Disorders
Depression or Mood Disorders
Self-Harming Behaviors
Irritability
Apathy
School-Performance issues
Poor Self-Care
Distorted Self-Concept
Self-Defeating Behaviors


Question: If a program receives state or federal grants, do they still have the legal ability to use a religious doctrine, such as the 12 steps etc., which is basically god-based treatment? I know these programs are generally privately run but I thought I heard that if any organization receives public funding, it can no longer incorporate any religion into it's methods. Just a thought.

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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 07:35:32 PM »
Statement from a so-called client:

"The person who was intervened on has withered and died; and a vigorous, proud young man has grown in his place. Today, I bring eagerness to the challenges, joys, and sorrows that lie ahead. Now I am blessed with the vision that I once lacked."

- Client, Ohio



"Withered and died"? No teen should ever utter the words "vigorous, proud young man" It just isn't natural. This tells me all I need to know. Reminds me of when I was brainwashed. I am sure at some point, I said something similar to this.
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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 08:39:58 PM »
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Statement from a so-called client:

"The person who was intervened on has withered and died; and a vigorous, proud young man has grown in his place. Today, I bring eagerness to the challenges, joys, and sorrows that lie ahead. Now I am blessed with the vision that I once lacked."

- Client, Ohio



"Withered and died"? No teen should ever utter the words "vigorous, proud young man" It just isn't natural. This tells me all I need to know. Reminds me of when I was brainwashed. I am sure at some point, I said something similar to this.

Second generation thought reform...  Attacking the self concept.
http://www.google.com/search?q=second+g ... ght+reform

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In the newer thought reform programs, attacks appear to be designed to destabilize the subject's most central aspects of the experience of the self. The newer programs undermine a person's basic consciousness, reality awareness, beliefs and worldview, emotional control, and defense mechanisms. We suggest that attacking the stability and quality of evaluations of self-concepts is the principal effective technique used in the conduct of a coercive thought reform and behavior control program.
source [emphasis added]

Another good link on the topic:
http://holysmoke.org/cos/thought-reform2.htm
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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 08:43:03 PM »
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Question: If a program receives state or federal grants, do they still have the legal ability to use a religious doctrine, such as the 12 steps etc., which is basically god-based treatment? I know these programs are generally privately run but I thought I heard that if any organization receives public funding, it can no longer incorporate any religion into it's methods. Just a thought.

True. And it's been tested in court.
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-spirrel.html#judges
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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 11:32:30 PM »
wow you people are so judgmental.   you have no real clue what they do and yet you want to tear them down.  this james guy seems like an interesting person deciding to live among homeless to learn about them and truly understand them.   but none of you have the guts to do something like that.  you just in your fornits tower and cast down judgment against anyone who does nothtink like you.   it is either hate all programs and anything connected to it or die.  no one can ever win against you.   i will sit back and wait patiently for you all to do what you do best and tear apart this post and call me whatever you want.
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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2008, 12:07:00 AM »
None Judgmental - don't freak out - share your opinion and let's talk about it and see what we can learn from each other.  ASR is a controversial program.  Not all former alumni sing it's praises.  Does that make them wrong?  Of course not.  Fornits exists because programs exist.  Most members are openminded and happy to have a debate/discussion with likeminded individuals no matter what side of the fence they sit on.  Thanks for posting.  Hope you will join the discussion!
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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2008, 12:55:31 AM »
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The second objective is to assist family members and loved ones to become a unified front. This will help eliminate the ways in which adolescents and young adults manipulate family members so that they can continue their behavior. Adolescents will not change a behavior that works for them. This fundamental foundation of behavior drives our intervention process. At Breakthrough Interventions, we create the opportunity for your adolescent or young adult to experience first hand that their behaviors will no longer achieve their desired outcome... [sick fuckery, ad nauseum]

You want us to understand that? That's like asking us to stare into a bowl of diarrhea and try to figure out what could possibly be wrong with the bowels of the person who made it. Do you know how many things have to be seriously wrong with you before you can even type that? They must have no soul, and I mean that very literally; they were simply born without self-awareness, and the neurons that make up what passes for their though process cannot even conceive of the concept of free will. All in all, "Breakthrough Interventions" comes out as a rough equivalent of this, but at least the latter guy knows he's writing fiction. Do these people have children of their own? Can they? I can't imagine the person who wrote this having a kid surviving beyond the age of, say, eight months. "We have to ignore his crying, it's the only way he'll learn. Hey, do you smell something burning?"

To write that requires a serious lack of compassion and a huge misunderstanding of psychological principles. To get on here and defend it defies belief. You'd have better luck trying to pass off The Turner Diaries as a great literary work than come here and peddle this bullcrap.
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Re: Breakthrough Interventions
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2008, 03:07:56 AM »
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wow you people are so judgmental.   you have no real clue what they do and yet you want to tear them down.  this james guy seems like an interesting person deciding to live among homeless to learn about them and truly understand them.   but none of you have the guts to do something like that.  you just in your fornits tower and cast down judgment against anyone who does nothtink like you.   it is either hate all programs and anything connected to it or die.  no one can ever win against you.   i will sit back and wait patiently for you all to do what you do best and tear apart this post and call me whatever you want.

is this the "Who?" Or do random newbies make statements like "fornits tower?"
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