bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.

[Anonymous]

Can psy, che, or the fornits answer some things for me--

Holy Cow!
Am I to understand that Who has been banned?
Happy day.

Moderators can't see IPs?[
?

Mr. Zen  you speak often about pennisula villiage and your opinions of that place.  That is propaganda also.  The only difference is we like hearing the negative stuff here so we dont object as much.

And gives out the addresses and names of survivors and their families, he may or may not have gotten from abusing his moderating privileges! Honest, honorable person, eh?

I don't care what you think.  You're wrong, bitter, and well, just fucking wrong.  I never posted any info the who didn't ask for, and even then I used blanks and said I wouldn't leave it up.  Who used it as Goebbels- style propaganda, outed CCM as the person who was posting bullshit about me, and confirmed I had her first name right.  So thewho dicked it up, he's gone, and you want a scapegoat....Jethro, please.  I'm not your whipping boy.  Thewho is gone, don't blame me.  Take your sour grapes elsewhere. 

Seeing as how CCM offered money for my info, which is stalking, I've got her address to send the cops to without having to ask around, huh?

Loser... 
.

If you had half of the brains as you have "bitterness" and insecurity, which causes you to abuse survivors inappropriately and seemingly randomly, you'd not have jumped to conclusions, read my adage accurately, and noted: I'm GLAD the who is banned. I'd rejoice were he shot in the gob with an MK-47.

Hmm, with which childish insult should I reciprocate? Monkey brain? Poo-poo head? No. You’re a post middle-aged low-life who never progressed beyond knocking over smaller kids for lunch money. Continue to sexually degrade and attack the families of survivors by posting their contact info here. Terrorize them to the point they feel they need to mention that they have cops in their family, and "if it's their time to go," they'd be O.K with that. That's ethical to do to a survivor who was locked away for 4 years after their family threw them away, and has had to survive all on their own.

Your actions speak for yourself- no name calling required. And, sure, the 5-0 will regard your “stalking” charges  seriously.

[Anonymous]

There has got to be some kind of money-making (or some serious pathology) involved in the mix for TheWho here, IMHO.

maybe he just liked to chat? maybe he was just bored at work? maybe he was a survivor who liked to play devils advocate? maybe he was telling the truth, and really had a daughter in a program and she is doing well and grateful. The point is who cares, it's not like he was posting links to his referral website. Psy went into ST and played devils advocate, followed the rules and got banned.. then publicized this as proof of ST's censorship policy. Why is the situation with thewho any different? he followed the rules of this forum, voiced his contrary and got banned for it. maybe it was just some survivors experiment to test the boundaries of free speech. bottom line - fornits failed miserably. they even included their  new orwellian term to delude themselves.. 'manual spam'.

[TheWho]

What is going on?  Does this Zenagent guy work with Ginger? WTF is that all about?  She would never allow that in a million years, he is a moderator?  someone fucked up maybe it was me I should go back and read from the beginning sorry I jumped in the middle here, I missed something

[Anonymous]

Ok, I grok a lot of these guests are the WHO…disregard those. However, not ALL guests are him.

Whatever controversies remain, we all can agree, it is nectar from Zeus the elephant god of the Himalayas that he is 86'd.

[Anonymous]

I pledge $200 cash to be sent to whatever admin or site owner bans TheWho.

 I'll double that if someone posts his real name, information and/or a picture of him.

No banning on Fornits.  Period.  Free speech is paramount.  Once censorship starts, it's a slippery slope before there's duct tape on your mouth.

"I detest what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire

[Ursus]

There has got to be some kind of money-making (or some serious pathology) involved in the mix for TheWho here, IMHO.

maybe he just liked to chat? maybe he was just bored at work? maybe he was a survivor who liked to play devils advocate? maybe he was telling the truth, and really had a daughter in a program and she is doing well and grateful. The point is who cares, it's not like he was posting links to his referral website. Psy went into ST and played devils advocate, followed the rules and got banned.. then publicized this as proof of ST's censorship policy. Why is the situation with thewho any different? he followed the rules of this forum, voiced his contrary and got banned for it. maybe it was just some survivors experiment to test the boundaries of free speech. bottom line - fornits failed miserably. they even included their  new orwellian term to delude themselves.. 'manual spam'.

I dunno, Wayward (Who?)... In the past I have usually defended on behalf of free speech and anti-censorship. I posted against the "anti-Who" notice on a forum door. I have complained about his not being able to post on the Ban-Box. I am guessing that maybe TheWho did not follow "the rules of the forum." I am guessing that perhaps his actions undercut some critical and inherent philosophy here that is part and parcel of its nature of being.

[Anonymous]

TheWho is an effective communicator. His detractors post extreme and sometimes violent reactions to his seemingly calm and collected demeanor, which is precisely what he wanted. He won - fornits is a sore loser - taking the ball and going home. They fear new posters will believe what he says because he comes off as sane and concerned, unlike a poster like Zen Agent who comes off revengeful and violent. If you were a parent, who would you listen to? That's why he was banned.

[Anonymous]

Glad to see not everyone around here has lost their critical thinking skills.

In a lot of ways, this banning of who is no different than Bush's mandate to invade Iraq under the pretext of defending democracy.

Who is/was a textbook troll.  Where was the threat to Fornits, kids or parents?  I honestly don't see it.

Lastly, the fact that I will be accused of being the who is proof positive that the idiots are running the asylum.  Get a grip ya'll.

[ZenAgent]

TheWho is an effective communicator. His detractors post extreme and sometimes violent reactions to his seemingly calm and collected demeanor, which is precisely what he wanted. He won - fornits is a sore loser - taking the ball and going home. They fear new posters will believe what he says because he comes off as sane and concerned, unlike a poster like Zen Agent who comes off revengeful and violent. If you were a parent, who would you listen to? That's why he was banned.

How violent can ya be on a forum?  I have been nasty to theWho, I'm proud of it.  I had nothing to do with you being banned.  No sane and rational person would post as an anon to answer himself, who.  We caught ya doing it.  Quit trying to make me your scapegoat! Own up to it!  Quit making excuses and pointing fingers at me.  Take your fucking ball and go home, asswipe.

Will someone make this ban stick, or is this sick puppy going to whine forever?

[Anonymous]

TheWho is an effective communicator. His detractors post extreme and sometimes violent reactions to his seemingly calm and collected demeanor, which is precisely what he wanted. He won - fornits is a sore loser - taking the ball and going home. They fear new posters will believe what he says because he comes off as sane and concerned, unlike a poster like Zen Agent who comes off revengeful and violent. If you were a parent, who would you listen to? That's why he was banned.

How violent can ya be on a forum?  I have been nasty to theWho, I'm proud of it.  I had nothing to do with you being banned.  No sane and rational person would post as an anon to answer himself, who.  We caught ya doing it.  Quit trying to make me your scapegoat! Own up to it!  Quit making excuses and pointing fingers at me.  Take your fucking ball and go home, asswipe.

Will someone make this ban stick, or is this sick puppy going to whine forever?

You think everyone is TheWho. Your responses are predictable, boring and unsatisfying. You are representative of the future of fornits is policy doesn't revert itself soon.

[ZenAgent]

TheWho is an effective communicator. His detractors post extreme and sometimes violent reactions to his seemingly calm and collected demeanor, which is precisely what he wanted. He won - fornits is a sore loser - taking the ball and going home. They fear new posters will believe what he says because he comes off as sane and concerned, unlike a poster like Zen Agent who comes off revengeful and violent. If you were a parent, who would you listen to? That's why he was banned.

How violent can ya be on a forum?  I have been nasty to theWho, I'm proud of it.  I had nothing to do with you being banned.  No sane and rational person would post as an anon to answer himself, who.  We caught ya doing it.  Quit trying to make me your scapegoat! Own up to it!  Quit making excuses and pointing fingers at me.  Take your fucking ball and go home, asswipe.

Will someone make this ban stick, or is this sick puppy going to whine forever?

You think everyone is TheWho. Your responses are predictable, boring and unsatisfying. You are representative of the future of fornits is policy doesn't revert itself soon.

I'm vengeful?  Your responses are-robotic-stiff-mediocre-redundant.   You are representative of the dull plodding past.  Get over it.

Alright.  I banned thewho.  It was me personally, and I got my rocks off doing it.  I own ALL this, pal.  It was my decision, and I'll never revert.  NEVER. Ha, ha, ha.

[Anonymous]

Me curious. What what was the rationale behind the who's banning.

In reineration: I AM ALL FOR IT. Bash his brains with a blue bowling ball, the banned bastard!

But, was it that his posts amounted to spam? Answering your own question anon isn't it, I'm sure. Truth be told, that'd ban a whole lotta monkies in this heated jungle.

[TheWho]

There has got to be some kind of money-making (or some serious pathology) involved in the mix for TheWho here, IMHO.

maybe he just liked to chat? maybe he was just bored at work? maybe he was a survivor who liked to play devils advocate? maybe he was telling the truth, and really had a daughter in a program and she is doing well and grateful. The point is who cares, it's not like he was posting links to his referral website. Psy went into ST and played devils advocate, followed the rules and got banned.. then publicized this as proof of ST's censorship policy. Why is the situation with thewho any different? he followed the rules of this forum, voiced his contrary and got banned for it. maybe it was just some survivors experiment to test the boundaries of free speech. bottom line - fornits failed miserably. they even included their  new orwellian term to delude themselves.. 'manual spam'.

I dunno, Wayward (Who?)... In the past I have usually defended on behalf of free speech and anti-censorship. I posted against the "anti-Who" notice on a forum door. I have complained about his not being able to post on the Ban-Box. I am guessing that maybe TheWho did not follow "the rules of the forum." I am guessing that perhaps his actions undercut some critical and inherent philosophy here that is part and parcel of its nature of being.

you think like we did in the old days only we didnt have the philosophy then.  I would defend anyone who would be pushed out the door, just the way it was the rest of them too.  I read from the beginning and dont see why thewho was banned does this happen all the time?  How do you decide which people can stay?  When you say "rules of the forum" which ones do you mean, hell we never had rules except that survivors stuck together and no one could defeat us.  We never let anyone leave without knowing what we stood for or went threw.
I dont see why the guy had to be put out even if he was a hooligan.
After reading threw this I wonder why this Zen guy needs to post here so much if he is a moderator in another forum.  Mods were always there to help out as I remember not to argue or confront people.

[Anonymous]

If you all call this free speech I have a bridge for you to buy in Brooklynn.

[Anonymous]

Program vets once again demonstrating why we get more or less absolutely nothing accomplished. It comes as no surprise to me that parents, outsiders, and a variety of vets themselves no longer bother posting here. This place has long since slid into a shit hole.