Child abuse report for 2005 contains vital info about residential facilities

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http://www.americanhumane.org/site/PageServer?pagename=nr_fact_sheets_childemotionalabuse

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm05/index.htm

Feedback, comments?

always welcome.

This stuff upset me as most of the criteria has been met to deem abusive situations as "substanstiated" in many of these facilities. Also, if ye notice in the study the incidents of abuses are higher in states like florida(eh hem) and Ohio, and all of the usual suspects.

Let's draw attention to these studies people, and when we make complaints let's reference some of the facts and statistics in these studies.

sincerely,
-DP

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Impact of Child Maltreatment on Adult Survivors

http://cbexpress.acf.hhs.gov/articles.cfm?issue_id=2007-04&article_id=1314

-DP

[TheWho]

Thanks for finding and posting this Deprogrammed.  There is a lot of data here and I looked through most of it.  What jumped out at me was that mothers were most  likely to be responsible for abusing their child at a rate of 40%. Parents together accounted for 83.3% of all abuses towards children and Unrelated were the second lowest at 10.7%, just above unknown at 6.0%.

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm05/figure3_5.htm

Another cut at the data shows the following:   as far as who abuses our children

Parents:  79.4%
Other Relative:  6.8%
Foster Parent:  0.4%
Residential Facility Staff :  0.2%

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm05/table3_17.htm


It is difficult to determine which states have a higher rate of abuse in any one category.  Florida is the 4th most populated state in the US and Ohio is ranked 7th.

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm05/table5_3.htm

snap shot of a few states:

            Facility
State    Abuse     population               Rate of Abuse
Alaska     9         683,478        1.377  x10-5    or  0.001377  %
Florida    87     18,251,243        4.767 x10-6     or  0.0004767 %
Ohio       35      11,466,917        3.052 x10-6     or  0.0003.052 %
Vermont   2          621,254        3.22 x10-6      or  0.000322 %

So we can see that Alaska has a higher incidence of abuse (via facility staff) than Ohio and Florida combined and Florida and Ohio are statistically in line with Vermont.  So it is difficult to determine, from the listing, which state has a higher incidence of abuse.

What this data is showing us is that we need to educate the parents better and or more closely monitor how our children are being treated in the homes (via school counselors, professionals, child advocates etc) and get the children the help they need up to and including to the point of removing them from an abusive household…. Seems we are ignoring (or responding too slowly) or not removing our children from these households quick enough.



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[DieYuppieSkum]

hey who, what YOU don't get is regardless of the statistics. I had the ever living shit kicked out of me by my old man. But I would have gladly gone through HIM any day of the week rather then be stuck at any RTC because he was not paid for it.

You don't understand that "tough love" requires actual "love" and not a pay check.

[TheWho]

hey who, what YOU don't get is regardless of the statistics. I had the ever living shit kicked out of me by my old man. But I would have gladly gone through HIM any day of the week rather then be stuck at any RTC because he was not paid for it.

You don't understand that "tough love" requires actual "love" and not a pay check.

 Sorry to hear that, DYS, and as a child you should not have to make those decisions on your own….. also there are many kids who would disagree with you and would be willing to do just about anything to get out of their abusive household and into a setting in which they can grow and feel safe.  There are a lot worse things than getting the shit kicked out of you once in awhile…. We need to create and make available opportunities for kids to escape the at risk life style many are being forced to live with or are being exposed to.  If parents are unable to keep their children safe then someone needs to step in and advocate for them.



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[Deprogrammed]

Thanks for finding and posting this Deprogrammed.  There is a lot of data here and I looked through most of it.  What jumped out at me was that mothers were most  likely to be responsible for abusing their child at a rate of 40%. Parents together accounted for 83.3% of all abuses towards children and Unrelated were the second lowest at 10.7%, just above unknown at 6.0%.

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm05/figure3_5.htm

Another cut at the data shows the following:   as far as who abuses our children

Parents:  79.4%
Other Relative:  6.8%
Foster Parent:  0.4%
Residential Facility Staff :  0.2%

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm05/table3_17.htm


It is difficult to determine which states have a higher rate of abuse in any one category.  Florida is the 4th most populated state in the US and Ohio is ranked 7th.

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm05/table5_3.htm

snap shot of a few states:

            Facility
State    Abuse     population               Rate of Abuse
Alaska     9         683,478        1.377  x10-5    or  0.001377  %
Florida    87     18,251,243        4.767 x10-6     or  0.0004767 %
Ohio       35      11,466,917        3.052 x10-6     or  0.0003.052 %
Vermont   2          621,254        3.22 x10-6      or  0.000322 %

So we can see that Alaska has a higher incidence of abuse (via facility staff) than Ohio and Florida combined and Florida and Ohio are statistically in line with Vermont.  So it is difficult to determine, from the listing, which state has a higher incidence of abuse.

What this data is showing us is that we need to educate the parents better and or more closely monitor how our children are being treated in the homes (via school counselors, professionals, child advocates etc) and get the children the help they need up to and including to the point of removing them from an abusive household…. Seems we are ignoring (or responding too slowly) or not removing our children from these households quick enough.



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Excuse me, Who but 10.7 is too high of a percentage and is something that can be controlled , as where our govt. cannot always control what goes on in a childs natural household. So, why is the 10.7 not being controlled? A lot of it is because there is too much money in the residential facilities being made off of these children, whether it be through their parents insurance company or the parents own pocket. Who, even you have to admit that 10.7 is still a very troubling number. I also have to admit that I was disturbed about those mothers and natural parents instances of abuse numbers and stats. I also think and have witnessed that a large amount of these kids that get thrown into a home or program or rehab, have already been abused at  home, and in turn if they are thrown into another abusive environment(residential facility....group home, etc...) ,these same children are more susceptible to being abused again without proper abuse intervention treatment etc... Also, the programs that I personally have encountered tend to prey upon these abusive parents as well as these type of abused to children because they are fully aware that they will be more susceptible to falling "in line" under an abusive modality ( ie; brainwashing, corporal punishment etc..)
-DP

[TheWho]

Excuse me, Who but 10.7 is too high of a percentage and is something that can be controlled , as where our govt. cannot always control what goes on in a childs natural household. So, why is the 10.7 not being controlled? A lot of it is because there is too much money in the residential facilities being made off of these children, whether it be through their parents insurance company or the parents own pocket. Who, even you have to admit that 10.7 is still a very troubling number. I also have to admit that I was disturbed about those mothers and natural parents instances of abuse numbers and stats. I also think and have witnessed that a large amount of these kids that get thrown into a home or program or rehab, have already been abused at  home, and in turn if they are thrown into another abusive environment(residential facility....group home, etc...) ,these same children are more susceptible to being abused again without proper abuse intervention treatment etc... Also, the programs that I personally have encountered tend to prey upon these abusive parents as well as these type of abused to children because they are fully aware that they will be more susceptible to falling "in line" under an abusive modality ( ie; brainwashing, corporal punishment etc..)
-DP

As long as there is one child out there that is being abused or living in an at-risk environment none of us should be able to sleep well at night.

The 10.7% is all “non parental” abuse which includes a parents’ live-in boyfriend, friends neighbors etc……. the "residential staff" is 0.2 % (which is way down on the list).  But I do agree that, although,  we don’t have control over what parents do to their own kids but we should have control over what Residential treatment centers do to them.  Any kids who are abused should be a high priority and should never occur under the watchful eye of professionals or heads should roll…… Realistically I don’t think the number could ever be zero but we certainly can keep working the issue until we have enough controls in place that all children entering a RTC feel safe and be kept out of harms way.



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[Che Gookin]

Why do you keep saying We?

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Why do you keep saying We?

He either has a split personality or a mouse in his pocket.

[TheWho]

Why do you keep saying We?

we don’t have control over what parents do to their own kids but we should have control over what Residential treatment centers do to them.
This could be rephrased to say:
None of us have control over what parents do to their own kids but there should be control over what Residential treatment centers do to them.
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we certainly can keep working the issue until we have enough controls in place that all children entering a RTC feel safe and be kept out of harms way.
This could be rephrased to say:
Those of us who are interested in child safety certainly can keep working the issue until we have enough controls in place that all children entering a RTC feel safe and be kept out of harms way.


I think the intent/message is the same ...... another option is I could just state "TheWho" is plural like "TheMonsters"/




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[Botched Programming]

This could be rephrased to say:
Those of us who are interested in child safety certainly can keep working the issue until we have enough controls in place that all children entering a RTC feel safe and be kept out of harms way.


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This could be rephrased to say:
Those of us who are interested in child safety should work dilligently enough to ensure that no child should ever have to go through the hell of being put in a RTC or TBS.

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[TheWho]

This could be rephrased to say:
Those of us who are interested in child safety certainly can keep working the issue until we have enough controls in place that all children entering a RTC feel safe and be kept out of harms way.


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This could be rephrased to say:
Those of us who are interested in child safety should work dilligently enough to ensure that no child should ever have to go through the hell of being put in a RTC or TBS.

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Exactly, Botched, it isnt intented to imply specific people, but more towards a subgroup of people that agree with you.  Like your statement implies a group of people who would not like to see kids attend any RTC or TBS..... when I use the word WE it is intended to include all those people who are in the subgroup which agree with me... which could mean zero in some cases or 1,000's in others and save time from naming everyone.... like your phrase implies also.


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[Botched Programming]

[AuntieEm2]

On a related topic, see also the ongoing highly-respected Adverse Childhood Experiences Study (ACE):
www.acestudy.org

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What is the ACE Study?

The ACE Study is an ongoing collaboration between the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and Kaiser Permanente.  Led by Co-principal Investigators Robert F. Anda, MD, MS, and Vincent J. Felitti, MD, the ACE Study is perhaps the largest scientific research study of its kind, analyzing the relationship between multiple categories of childhood trauma (ACEs), and health and behavioral outcomes later in life.

The ACE Study reveals a powerful relationship between our emotional experiences as children and our physical and mental health as adults, as well as the major causes of adult mortality in the United States. It documents the conversion of traumatic emotional experiences in childhood into organic disease later in life. How does this happen, this reverse alchemy, turning the gold of a newborn infant into the lead of a depressed, diseased adult? The Study makes it clear that time does not heal some of the adverse experiences we found so common in the childhoods of a large population of middle-aged, middle class Americans.

It's not just water under the bridge. ACEs are surprisingly common among people of all social strata, and have far-reaching consequences.  For many people, it's not possible to "just get over it," not even fifty years later.


The ACE Score is measured based on growing up experiencing any of the following conditions in the household prior to age 18:
1. Recurrent physical abuse
2. Recurrent emotional abuse
3. Contact sexual abuse
4. An alcohol and/or drug abuser in the household
5. An incarcerated household member
6. Someone who is chronically depressed, mentally ill, institutionalized, or suicidal
7. Mother is treated violently
8. One or no parents
9. Emotional or physical neglect

Calcuate your ACE score: http://www.acestudy.org/files/ACE_Score_Calculator.pdf

Auntie Em

[TheWho]

Thanks AuntieEm2... I had seen this (or something similar)  years ago with a couple who were having problems with their marriage and they were asked to answer these questions by a marriage counselor they were seeing.
Sorry, I know this doesn't mean much (or add value) but I thought I would post it anyway.


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