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Offline ajax13

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Super Ghoul
« on: January 31, 2008, 11:08:12 PM »
I read an account today of another murder committed by a former AARC inmate.  This murder took place back in '04 in Airdrie.  The killer, a twenty-nine-year-old father, beat his grandmother to death with a hammer.  The murderer was apparently a drug-abuser, and his grandmother had refused him money.  The Wizard put in a plug for AARC during the eulogy.  The fellow, Jonathan Nelson, had left AARC, according to the Wiz, after Phase II, ten years before the murder.  I find it interesting that ten years after AARC had failed to successfully treat this individual, his family was still willing to have the Wiz use the funeral as a stump to sell AARC.  "Terrible disease, etc."
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director

"...based on an understanding that addiction is a chronic relapsing disease that makes people more vulnerable to overdose after they've been in treatment."  Zontar?

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Re: Super Ghoul
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2008, 10:36:50 PM »
Could you post more info on this if you have it? Links to articles? Full names?
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Re: Super Ghoul
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2008, 01:03:28 AM »
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director

"...based on an understanding that addiction is a chronic relapsing disease that makes people more vulnerable to overdose after they've been in treatment."  Zontar?

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Re: Super Ghoul
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2008, 02:40:56 AM »
Other than the Alumnus article I cannot find any connection to the facts you allege Ajax.  That source alone is insufficient, could you be mistaken on the name?  Was it perhaps a step-sibling?
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Re: Super Ghoul
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2008, 03:12:49 AM »
"On January 12, 2004, I met with parents of a son who tragically murdered his grandmother. He left AARC on Level II over 10 years ago and is a poignant reminder of what happens when the disease goes untreated."
"But Dr. Dean Vause, Executive Director of the Alberta Adolescent Recovery Centre in Calgary, who read a eulogy for Stauffer, alleged the woman was in no way afflicted herself, but had died on the “battlefield of addiction.” “There are casualities..and there’s a heavy price to be paid in the war against this disease”, he said.”

Sorry, but who are you that you decide whether something is sufficient or insufficient?  Sufficient for what?  Why don't you stick with connect the dots puzzles and leave grown-up talk to the grown-ups?
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director

"...based on an understanding that addiction is a chronic relapsing disease that makes people more vulnerable to overdose after they've been in treatment."  Zontar?

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Re: Super Ghoul
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2008, 09:47:58 AM »
Where is the evidence that there was a murder at all?  Where are the newspaper accounts? I have tried googling all the variables and find nothing.  Dean's words are proof of nothing.
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Re: Super Ghoul
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2008, 10:59:23 AM »
Quote from: "ajax13"
"On January 12, 2004, I met with parents of a son who tragically murdered his grandmother. He left AARC on Level II over 10 years ago and is a poignant reminder of what happens when the disease goes untreated."
"But Dr. Dean Vause, Executive Director of the Alberta Adolescent Recovery Centre in Calgary, who read a eulogy for Stauffer, alleged the woman was in no way afflicted herself, but had died on the “battlefield of addiction.” “There are casualities..and there’s a heavy price to be paid in the war against this disease”, he said.”

Sorry, but who are you that you decide whether something is sufficient or insufficient?  Sufficient for what?  Why don't you stick with connect the dots puzzles and leave grown-up talk to the grown-ups?

You decide what is sufficient all the time. You know nothing about the Nelson's or what the went through after Jon left treatment. You are exploiting their tremendous pain to try and show AARC in a bad light.
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Re: Super Ghoul
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2008, 01:08:25 PM »
Quote from: "Joining the dots"
Where is the evidence that there was a murder at all?  Where are the newspaper accounts? I have tried googling all the variables and find nothing.  Dean's words are proof of nothing.


We are in complete agreement.  His words are proof of nothing. 
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director

"...based on an understanding that addiction is a chronic relapsing disease that makes people more vulnerable to overdose after they've been in treatment."  Zontar?

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Re: Super Ghoul
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2008, 12:38:37 PM »
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You decide what is sufficient all the time. You know nothing about the Nelson's or what the went through after Jon left treatment. You are exploiting their tremendous pain to try and show AARC in a bad light.

Ajax said nothing negative about the Nelsons nor did the take away from what pain or suffering they undoubtedly have gone through.

AARC exploits (and causes) temendous pain all the time to show AARC in a good light. So what is your point?

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Winnipeg Sun: NEWS - Slaying sparks shock, angerThe body of Jean Stauffer, 71, was found in her home Friday evening by her ... Stauffer moved to Airdrie from the family's Stettler-area farm where she ...
www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegSun/News ... 10949.html - Similar pages

This came up on a google search but I got errors trying to open it. I'm sure the article could be found by contacting the Winnipeg Sun.

Not surprising that no local news can be found on this. Like the Andy Evans case the media seems to clam up on these AARC client murders.
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Re: Super Ghoul
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2008, 01:15:53 PM »
Here's another article on the same murder. This other person they speak of who axe murdered the parents in Aidrie years ago, Stephen Ford, was he from AARC as well?

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http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=11557

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Man Pleads Guilty To Killing His Grandma In Airdrie
Jun, 06 2005 - 11:00 AM


CALGARY/AM770CHQR - A drug addict has pleaded guilty to murdering his grandmother in Airdrie last year.
Court heard Jonathon Nelson had gone to his grandmother's house several times, looking for money.
Sometimes she would give him cash, but only when he pleaded it was for his common-law wife and three kids, and not for drugs.
But Jean Stouffer told her grandson "no" on January 9th, 2004.
Angry, he beat the 71-year-old woman with what prosecutors call a broomstick handle.
Nelson then went out and got a hammer with an anvil face on it, and struck the woman on the head several more times.
Drinking heavily earlier in the day and high on drugs, police later found the 29-year-old passed out in an alley.
Nelson pleaded guilty to second degree murder and received a life sentence with no chance of parole for 15 years.
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