$400 Bounty for TheWho's Identity (pot raised again)

[Anonymous]

NOTE:
every post posted by "GUEST" following my post by "hello jackass" is not me....although i do agree with guest. themonsters is a bit of a goody-two-shoes. arnt ya?!

[TheWho]

Hey Who... why do you have your email address in your signature when there is a link for sending email right under your name?

I have received feedback that many parents do like to interact with fornits (at first).  I understand this because I was the same way when I first visited the website.  Fornits can be a bit intimidating to most newbies with the porn ,language ,hatred and abuse towards parents who do post their stories… all this just  jumps right out at you….. many links take you to some very obscene places,as many here know, which would cause many a parent not to come back.

It took me months before I was comfortable standing toe-toe in debate without fear the admin would get pissed and try to expose my IP etc…. which it turns out my instincts were not far off the mark.  I was in their shoes, looking for information and if another parent  had their email address posted so that I could write it down and then email them separate from fornits I would have opted for that and felt more  comfortable.

Since I have posted my email address openly I have had more people contact me and they had also mentioned they feel safer not going thru the board.  They are mostly looking for information on the industry and if fornits is safe to post in etc…. many of these people are new to forums… and no I am not making referrals (as many would like to believe).

As they gain some reassurance some of them begin to post and I guide them to some good forums to read depending on their interests (Typically away from the TTI thread for obvious reasons).

So you can see it is a very benign effort to put parents at ease and get them some information before they move on and maybe convince some to stay and read for awhile.



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[Anne Bonney]

As they gain some reassurance some of them begin to post and I guide them to some good forums to read depending on their interests

You send them to censored, tightly controlled and monitored sites so that no dissension or negativity creeps in.  You are the LAST person to provide balanced information.  You have a cursory, second-hand knowledge of the industry and try and pass yourself off as some bastion of sanity amongst the "damn disgruntled druggies".  You are among the lowest of the low.  The vilest of the vile.  You like to think of yourself as witty and oh so clever, but you're no different than any of the other shills and thugs that run and support this insidious industry.

[TheWho]

You send them to censored, tightly controlled and monitored sites so that no dissension or negativity creeps in.

I guess that part was not clear, my bad, I guide them to forums (within fornits)…..

You are the LAST person to provide balanced information. 

Actually I am one of the few here (maybe the only one) who is familiar with the good side of the industry as well as the bad and I speak openly about both.  Many here cannot claim that.

You have a cursory, second-hand knowledge of the industry and try and pass yourself off as some bastion of sanity amongst the "damn disgruntled druggies".

I have never called nor insinuated that you are druggies… I have first hand knowledge of the industry from many perspectives…. Wilderness and Therapeutic Boarding Schools as well as extensive reading here on fornits.

 

You are among the lowest of the low.  The vilest of the vile.  You like to think of yourself as witty and oh so clever, but you're no different than any of the other shills and thugs that run and support this insidious industry.

You should read some of the stuff you write, Anne, before pointing fingers.  No one can top your gutter mouth and hatred.  I am used to it by now and we all realize it is part of your everyday language,  but boy does it set new parents back on their heels to hear a mother speak this way.



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[Anonymous]

>those are some of the ugliest butch lookin

  I think most of them are quite attractive young ladies.  None of the look "butch" to me.

 

[Anne Bonney]

Actually I am one of the few here (maybe the only one) who is familiar with the good side of the industry as well as the bad and I speak openly about both.  Many here cannot claim that.

You have no experience with the inside of the industry.  You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors and you refuse to acknowledge the FACT that these programs......every single one that uses the "therapeutic community", "positive peer culture" and the isolating and controlling environments ARE abusive in their very nature.  It is inherently built into the phases.  There is no getting around that so you just ignore and deny it.

I have never called nor insinuated that you are druggies…

I was paraphrasing and lumping what most pro-program people parrot when they here negatives about their beloved programs.  We're called druggies, angry kids who can't let go, disgruntled and disturbed etc. etc.

I have first hand knowledge of the industry from many perspectives…. Wilderness and Therapeutic Boarding Schools

Really?  Which ones did YOU ATTEND?





 

You should read some of the stuff you write, Anne, before pointing fingers.  No one can top your gutter mouth and hatred.  I am used to it by now and we all realize it is part of your everyday language,  but boy does it set new parents back on their heels to hear a mother speak this way.

You're about the only one I speak to that way and you damn well deserve it asshole.

[TheWho]

You have no experience with the inside of the industry.  You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors and you refuse to acknowledge the FACT that these programs......every single one that uses the "therapeutic community", "positive peer culture" and the isolating and controlling environments ARE abusive in their very nature.  It is inherently built into the phases.  There is no getting around that so you just ignore and deny it.

Ha,Ha,Ha,  This is like a daily argument.  They are not inherently abusive, not even close.  You attended a program, Anne, (decades ago) which didn’t work for you and were probably abused by it from your stories.  But that doesn’t give you experience with all the other schools or what is going on today.  You can continue to ignore the advances and deny the industry is changing everyday but the rest of us will be keeping current and adjusting our views.

Really?  Which ones did YOU ATTEND?

SUWS and ASR

You're about the only one I speak to that way and you damn well deserve it asshole.

Sure you do, Bet you say that to all the guys!!



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[Anne Bonney]

Really?  Which ones did YOU ATTEND?

SUWS and ASR

YOU attended those??  Or your daughter did?  See?  That's why you're hopeless.  You actually believe that what you experienced was the same or even remotely similar to what your daughter went through.  You have no fucking clue as to what goes on behind closed doors.  You never will.

Sure you do, Bet you say that to all the guys!!

Only the pro-program idiots, dickhead.

[TheWho]

YOU attended those??  Or your daughter did?  See?  That's why you're hopeless.  You actually believe that what you experienced was the same or even remotely similar to what your daughter went through.  You have no fucking clue as to what goes on behind closed doors.  You never will.

Are you listening to yourself?  You only attended straight right?  Then how would you know what goes on in other schools?  You have no experience with the industry at all, Anne.  You only have experience with attending a program from the inside, nothing else.  You cant state they are all the same because I could use the same argument which would mean all programs are non abusive... see what I mean?  You are viewing the entire industry from one small experience which occured decades ago.

I have first hand accounts from the inner workings wilderness and TBS’s and from a parents perspective.



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[Anne Bonney]

I have first hand accounts from the inner workings wilderness and TBS’s and from a parents perspective.

So, in other words...ya got nuthin'.   You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors and you never will.

[TheWho]

I have first hand accounts from the inner workings wilderness and TBS’s and from a parents perspective.

So, in other words...ya got nuthin'.   You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors and you never will.

Makes you sit back and think a little bit doesn't it!!  I think this discussion has opened your eyes a little bit....Just because you attended a program decades ago doesn't mean you understand the industry.  Just like "Behind closed doors" (as you say) you have no knowledge of anything that has occurred since the 1980's because you were never part of it.  You only know what you have read here on fornits, which is a heavily biased view (by many peoples own admittance)
The difference is I have seen the industry as it is today and you see a snap shot in time which never changes in your mind from the 1980's.




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[Anne Bonney]

I have first hand accounts from the inner workings wilderness and TBS’s and from a parents perspective.

So, in other words...ya got nuthin'.   You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors and you never will.

Makes you sit back and think a little bit doesn't it!!  I think this discussion has opened your eyes a little bit....Just because you attended a program decades ago doesn't mean you understand the industry.  Just like "Behind closed doors" (as you say) you have no knowledge of anything that has occurred since the 1980's because you were never part of it.  You only know what you have read here on fornits, which is a heavily biased view (by many peoples own admittance)
The difference is I have seen the industry as it is today and you see a snap shot in time which never changes in your mind from the 1980's.

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwn

[TheWho]

I have first hand accounts from the inner workings wilderness and TBS’s and from a parents perspective.

So, in other words...ya got nuthin'.   You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors and you never will.

Makes you sit back and think a little bit doesn't it!!  I think this discussion has opened your eyes a little bit....Just because you attended a program decades ago doesn't mean you understand the industry.  Just like "Behind closed doors" (as you say) you have no knowledge of anything that has occurred since the 1980's because you were never part of it.  You only know what you have read here on fornits, which is a heavily biased view (by many peoples own admittance)
The difference is I have seen the industry as it is today and you see a snap shot in time which never changes in your mind from the 1980's.

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwn

Yea, I hear ya.....................................................



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[Anne Bonney]

I have first hand accounts from the inner workings wilderness and TBS’s and from a parents perspective.

So, in other words...ya got nuthin'.   You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors and you never will.

Makes you sit back and think a little bit doesn't it!!  I think this discussion has opened your eyes a little bit....Just because you attended a program decades ago doesn't mean you understand the industry.  Just like "Behind closed doors" (as you say) you have no knowledge of anything that has occurred since the 1980's because you were never part of it.  You only know what you have read here on fornits, which is a heavily biased view (by many peoples own admittance)
The difference is I have seen the industry as it is today and you see a snap shot in time which never changes in your mind from the 1980's.

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwn

Yea, I hear ya.....................................................



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No.  You most definitely do not.

[TheWho]

I have first hand accounts from the inner workings wilderness and TBS’s and from a parents perspective.

So, in other words...ya got nuthin'.   You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors and you never will.

Makes you sit back and think a little bit doesn't it!!  I think this discussion has opened your eyes a little bit....Just because you attended a program decades ago doesn't mean you understand the industry.  Just like "Behind closed doors" (as you say) you have no knowledge of anything that has occurred since the 1980's because you were never part of it.  You only know what you have read here on fornits, which is a heavily biased view (by many peoples own admittance)
The difference is I have seen the industry as it is today and you see a snap shot in time which never changes in your mind from the 1980's.

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwn

Yea, I hear ya.....................................................



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No.  You most definitely do not.

Must had been a silent Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, then.


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