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Heritage School RTC in Provo, Utah

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Anonymous:
Mom, are you still there? Programs never help. They make things worse. Being unhappy does not mean being depressed, and being unhappy or angry is not soemthing that is "cured" by treatment. These are natural emotional reactions to disatisfying life-stuations. I suggest you start examining the life-situation she has to see what makes her unhappy or angry and fix it. You should also be aware that your perception of her emotions may not be an accurate guage of thier intensity

Being abducted and imprisoned helps no one, and should only be employeed as a tactic if someone- adult or kid-is in immediate danger of suicide or homocide.

All clinical trials have proved that these "prgrams"-residential, involuntary confinement, "emotional growth" style "schools", bootcamps or wilderness programs either do not help, or hurt.

Heritage house is listed on heals list of institutions that practise systematic torture

laylo2008:
I am still here and I appreciate the posts.  We are an intact two-parent home with three daughters.  We have been trying for two and a half years to avoid placing my daughter in residential treatment.  We have worked intensively with therapists and have done everything we can to deal with our daughter's issues in a positive and caring manner.   Without detailing everything that has gone on, our child is 14 years old and refuses to attend school; is continually verbally abusive to others (primarily me and her 7-year-old sister); and reacts to any attempts to set limits with behavior such as going to the kitchen, retrieving a knife, and stabbing a couch cushion, kicking furniture over, and other such behaviors.  

In my family of origin, several people have depression and anxiety disorders.  In my heart, I believe my daughter is suffering from depression and anxiety and perhaps even panic disorder or something like that.  I have a sister who is now 37 years old who has suffered with these issues since her early adolescence.  I have seen over the years that she manifests many of the behaviors that my daughter manifests.  My parents were always unable or unwilling to get her help.  My sister believes her problems are entirely biochemical.  Her journey has led her to be addicted to klonopin, to abuse prescription drugs, to be extremely promiscuous.  She is physically abusive to my parents and has stolen from them.  She has NEVER held a job.  As an adult, she has refused all advice to seek treatment.   The most recent incident occurred when the police found her car blocking both lanes of a busy residential street, and she was asleep in the car.  She refuses to believe that most of this happens because she generally cannot remember her conduct when she "comes to."  My biggest fear is that my daughter will end up like this.  

So, although I know that most of the people posting on this forum come from a place of feeling that these places are dangerous to the kids, I cannot bear that my child will face a future like this and I want her to get help.  We absolutely do not want her to be away from us.  We do not want her to be coerced, abused, badgered or treated in anyway other than a calm, caring way.  Nevertheless, we have tried and tried and tried to help her.  How can we help her?  

By the way, and I may do another post about this, her treatment team is also recommending a place called Teton Peaks in Idaho, but unanimously think that Heritage is better.

CCM girl 1989:
Laylo,

It's obvious that you care very much about your daughter. I also can tell you're not a troll. With that being said, be very careful about the information you give to anyone on this board. Also, when she comes home after her treatment, maybe you'll come back here to share your experience? I hope you do. Take care.

CCM girl 1989

Anonymous:
Laylo:

Have you hired a reputable neurosurgeon to take a look at her? Have you had an MRI done? Psychatric drugs of ANY sort tried?

Or are you just drowning in the behaviorist bullshit spoon-fed by quacks? Because that's what they are.

If your daughter believes her problems are biochemical in origin she is probably right. This shit happens. Organic brain damage is a reality. Get out of the "how can we control her" mindset, and take her to see REAL professionals for what's actually wrong with her.

A prescription of some sort or other is a hell of a lot better than a long stay in some hellhole that won't help a single fucking thing and may make things worse- MUCH worse. (As in suicide.)

No, seriously. Get off Fornits, get on the fucking phone, and find her a god damn doctor.

Anonymous:
this is taken from abusive youth facility watch list. Dont go with Heritage House


Heritage House (aka The Heritage Schools) is located in Provo, UT and is highly suspected of being an abusive behavior modification program.   HEAL downloaded the Heritage House admissions forms.  Things they consider to be extreme behavioral problems in need of immediate intervention include: "cursing, challenging authority, homosexuality--but, they call it "sexual identity distress", sad/unhappy, argues, noncompliant, impulsive, overreacts, secretive (shows a need for privacy), stubborn, does not accept criticism, etc."  These are all normal parts of growing up, establishing independence, and growing into one's own individuality/self.  Heritage House uses physical restraints.  In the contract, Heritage House explains that they control teen's contact with outside world including telephone privileges and monitoring incoming and outgoing mail (this is a civil rights violation, it violates the 4th, 8th, and 14th, amendments according to the Federal Court who has placed federal injunctions against this practice at other programs.)   In the contract, "You have the right to refuse to participate in any research project".  This is the parent's right, but, it does not apply to the teen.  It suggests, and HEAL has other paperwork that confirms, that many of these programs are experimenting on the youth in them.  Heritage House also uses "seclusion" as a punishment/disciplinary tool.  Seclusion is solitary confinement and in many programs can last for months and permanently disable the child/teen mentally.  Heritage House identifies their inmates by number, not name, like Provo Canyon School and like Nazi Germany.  We recommend you do not subject your child to Heritage House.  If you were abused or had your rights violated at Heritage House, please contact us and we will share your story here as a warning to others.

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