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Heritage School RTC in Provo, Utah
laylo2008:
I see that somebody posted on Heritage RTC in Provo, Utah back in October. Our child was today recommended for placement in this facility and although we are being told by therapists that we trust that it is an excellent program, I wonder if anybody can provide some more detailed information, pro or con, about the program there? Thank you so much.
Che Gookin:
IF this turns into a CCM girl flame/troll fest I'm booting this thread out of this forum posthaste.
that being said..
anyone have something to offer?
Last I heard the place had decended into a shithole.
laylo2008:
You know -- I am just a 40-something worried and desperate mother of a child who is struggling with anxiety and depression related issues and who is failing school and showing a lot of anger. I am trying to get my child some help without harming or endangering her, and I have turned to this forum as a way to do that. I am not computer-illiterate, and I understand the terms "flame" and "troll" in general, but I have no idea what a "CCM girl flame/troll fest" is or why you would think that this post constitutes one.
Also, when you say the place has descended into a "shithole," I wonder specifically what you mean. Would my child be in danger there? Exposed to more dangerous conduct than what she is currently exhibiting? Not helped?
We are just seeking information so we can make a decision in the best interest of our teen.
Covergaard:
CCM girl 1989 is a poster who had been at this place for years. She was also been at Cross Creek Manor, which explains the CCM.
She has stated that Heritage RTC was the best place, she has been at. But as she also had explained there was no room at home for her because there was a step-mom.
Short to say: A New family life and she belonged to the old one, so she was out.
Because she state that is was a good place, some posters dont appreciate her statements. I respect it because I have not been there and from what I can see there are red lights by the facility, but worse - much worse - are seen.
I help out with two watchpages and an article is underway, but until that I think that you should read these links and consult these myspace groups. The best statements are always made by those, who have actually been there:
Survivor groups:
Heritage RTC, Myspace
Survivors of Heritage RTC
Heritage RTC Provo tread on Facility Question and Answers in this forum
Please notice that your offspring will live there for very long time
--- Quote ---Average length of stay is 14 months. Minimum length of stay is six months. We do have clients who stay as long as two years.
--- End quote ---
That is a long time to be away from home and with their communication policy. The first two week are there NO CONTACT. Then there are calls with a therapist present every second week. The quistion you have to ask yourself is: How can my child tell me if anything is wrong there? Remember: They have to make money in order to stay in business. Would you as a businessowner not be tempted to hide errors?
Then look at the workbook on page 34 - the hot seat exercise:
Your child is placed in a seat and then the other kids, who also must have some kind of problem in order to be there are allowed to criticize your child. All of them in turn!
How can that improve the self-confidence?
As I said above. I see some red flags, I would use months to investigate in order to ensure the safety of my child. But it is not my child and I dont know why he or she has to be removed from the home and extended family network (The facility let the child talk to you - not the rest of the family).
I have offered to mail CCM girl, so you can write with her. If you want me to, then write me.
CCM girl 1989:
--- Quote from: ""Covergaard"" ---CCM girl 1989 is a poster who had been at this place for years. She was also been at Cross Creek Manor, which explains the CCM.
She has stated that Heritage RTC was the best place, she has been at. But as she also had explained there was no room at home for her because there was a step-mom.
Short to say: A New family life and she belonged to the old one, so she was out.
Because she state that is was a good place, some posters dont appreciate her statements. I respect it because I have not been there and from what I can see there are red lights by the facility, but worse - much worse - are seen.
I help out with two watchpages and an article is underway, but until that I think that you should read these links and consult these myspace groups. The best statements are always made by those, who have actually been there:
Survivor groups:
Heritage RTC, Myspace
Survivors of Heritage RTC
Heritage RTC Provo tread on Facility Question and Answers in this forum
Please notice that your offspring will live there for very long time
--- Quote ---Average length of stay is 14 months. Minimum length of stay is six months. We do have clients who stay as long as two years.
--- End quote ---
That is a long time to be away from home and with their communication policy. The first two week are there NO CONTACT. Then there are calls with a therapist present every second week. The quistion you have to ask yourself is: How can my child tell me if anything is wrong there? Remember: They have to make money in order to stay in business. Would you as a businessowner not be tempted to hide errors?
Then look at the workbook on page 34 - the hot seat exercise:
Your child is placed in a seat and then the other kids, who also must have some kind of problem in order to be there are allowed to criticize your child. All of them in turn!
How can that improve the self-confidence?
As I said above. I see some red flags, I would use months to investigate in order to ensure the safety of my child. But it is not my child and I dont know why he or she has to be removed from the home and extended family network (The facility let the child talk to you - not the rest of the family).
I have offered to mail CCM girl, so you can write with her. If you want me to, then write me.
--- End quote ---
Heritage is a program you can trust. They are what they say they are. Which is a rare thing these days.
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