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Re: HAPA
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "heretik" ---Are you sure Pathways, Australia is still a viable business. I heard it was inactive, could be wrong though.
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It would appear that Pathways is still quite active: http://www.pathwaysfoundation.com.au/
They've reduced the visibility of their association with the Mankind Project since the last time I was on their website... but MKP still leads the list on their links page.
The MKPgo website, affiliated/associated with the Mankind Project - Australia, lists Pathways Foundation as well as a few other such or similar organizations:
SUPPORT GROUP LINKS
* Get Real - For Youth
[li]Youth In Search
* Women Within
* The Pathways Foundation for teenagers[/li][/list]
Fwiw, Women Within was founded by Char Tosi, wife of Rich Tosi, one of the co-founders of MKP. From what I've read, Women Within is alleged or intended to be the female equivalent to MKP.
Samara:
I've been through lots of things and you know what? What it comes down to is pretty simple. People fight the simple. If you are alone and not responsible for anyone but yourself, just live your life how you see fit and don't hurt anyone. You can be free AND responsible and honest. If you are responsible for others, it is more work. It can be a struggle sometimes. Accept it and grow the fuck up.
People know what they should be doing; they just don't want to admit it. Because then you have to step up to the plate.
And, again: Why would a program need NDA's and encounter groups? No "support" group should require an NDA. (Non disclosure agreement)
But as I've said: I don't care what consenting adults do as long as they "first, do no harm." But obviously, some of these groups are scams. It's not terrible for unfulfilled men to have access to the pros and the cons before they drop their bucks and possibly their dignity along with their clothing. If it turns out great, and the bad reviews are unfounded, then no harm, no foul. But it is good to be have information and a few quick tips in case your weekend veers toward the cautionary tales.
Just like you'd look up reviews for a car, an appliance, or a trip.
heretik:
--- Quote from: "Samara" ---I've been through lots of things and you know what? What it comes down to is pretty simple. People fight the simple. If you are alone and not responsible for anyone but yourself, just live your life how you see fit and don't hurt anyone. You can be free AND responsible and honest. If you are responsible for others, it is more work. It can be a struggle sometimes. Accept it and grow the fuck up.
People know what they should be doing; they just don't want to admit it. Because then you have to step up to the plate.
And, again: Why would a program need NDA's and encounter groups? No "support" group should require an NDA. (Non disclosure agreement)
But as I've said: I don't care what consenting adults do as long as they "first, do no harm." But obviously, some of these groups are scams. It's not terrible for unfulfilled men to have access to the pros and the cons before they drop their bucks and possibly their dignity along with their clothing. If it turns out great, and the bad reviews are unfounded, then no harm, no foul. But it is good to be have information and a few quick tips in case your weekend veers toward the cautionary tales.
Just like you'd look up reviews for a car, an appliance, or a trip.
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I see you did not want to answer the questions. Alright you don't have to. I think you see what I mean though, concerning men.
Why are men dropping their clothing, why is being naked such a issue here, are you not comfortable in your nakedness. Do you not find your disrobed body beautiful. There is no shame attached to being naked unless you place it there. It does not really make a difference what society/western culture has taught you. To much American culture is tied to the body (the look, appeal ect..) it is shallow.
Why are we having a issue with adult consenting men inviting in new challenges. There is more information about the weekend then is being let on here. Men are not going into this weekend blind, without a level of knowledge concerning what they may face.
One other point. I am puzzled by the similarities being placed on MKP by the three of you. I know the three of you have first hand knowledge of programs, especially the ones you attended. Yet I have not read where any of you have ever attended a workshop for men or the equivalent for women. Now, from reading your prior posts I am under the assumption that because you went through a program and maybe some of the exercises preformed at the workshop resemble your LGAT's or group encounters, you have a unique perception. Ursus has tied Hyde School into MKP and has made a determination that this has influence over Hyde School in some way. I am not sure your perception is accurate, we are adults, most of us are of ages around 40-50, with a small percentage in their late 20's and 30's.
I can understand the anger coming from men after the workshop, especially the men that had a ruff time and really felt MKP was not for them. The weekend workshop, I will not lie is one tough in your face constantly demanding weekend. Yes, people are told about the weekend as much as you can but still you really can not explain enough to prepare one for this weekend. Like I said it is brutal.
Then you come out the other end and you feel weightless, like a 6 hour rolfing massage you levitate after your done. Have you ever ran a marathon, biked long distance, worked incredibly long hours to get a project done, stayed up night after night with a sick baby, well then you know. Try all of this in a weekend.... :rofl: only kidding but close.
Just think guys if you had never been introduced to any kind of dynamic like this before in your life, at least you three have the benefit of experiencing something close but it is not close enough. In this case you have a choice go further or stop, yes there are people pushing you, that is part of life but for once in their life for many men they experince their limits. It is awesome.
I'll get back.
heretik:
duplicate.
Samara:
Uh, Heretik, I don't care if people want to hang out naked. My post is not remotely anti-nudity. ???? You are really making a mountain out of a molehill here.
I simply said "buyer beware." Big Deal.
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