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Re: HAPA
heretik:
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--- Quote from: "heretik" ---Ursidae, (great name) thanks for pointing this info out to the masses. I see you have a education concerning MKP. MkP is not the only course men can take, there are many. I would hope your "cursory look" would not blind you to the vast wealth of info being offered. Mr Burke's dissertation is all worth looking into if for nothing else, good educational reading.
Are you sure Pathways, Australia is still a viable business. I heard it was inactive, could be wrong though.
Sorry about the link, I guess I just supposed everyone here knew so much about MKP, you would know where these articles came from. Why you are calling them spam I have no idea, I am not trying to sell. My point was to educate. It seemed that very little information about MKP was out there, so I nudged some information to the front.
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What do you think about the deaths and James Ray's reaction to them?
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I have read very little about James Ray personally, I do not know of his work. All I know is what I have read in the media outlets and subtle conversations friends of mine have had about these tragedies that occurred.
Anne, I will say this. I am not for a one man show, I need a collective of people who are guiding and have equal power.
Anne Bonney:
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--- Quote from: "heretik" ---There are many stories about MKP, most when viewed from the outside look very weird. Why are men (as you say here, Samara and Anne) running around naked and bashing fictitious womens heads with clubs. :) I can only say we are not.
I will say this in short, far to long have men been absent from their duties, we became lost. This is one way to regain the footing we gave up and be the men we are supposed to be.
I have found women (a true woman) find me more attractive in a innate way.
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All I can tell you is that the 1/2 dozen or so guys I've spoken with that have attended these "workshops" have had nothing but bad things to say about it. They said it felt very cult-like and that there was a ton of women bashing in them. They said it seemed like the leader(s) had some bad experiences with women and didn't know how to deal with it other than to blame society and proclaim that women had "stolen their masculinity". And that they're very, very angry about the ERA and see it as the beginning of the downfall of their (men's) reign.
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Well then, I would say to you keep your men far away from MKP, especially from the state that your speaking from and all other states. Because they are definitely experiencing a workshop that is not healthy. Very sad to hear this. I would like to get the workshops they attended please, not names, just the workshop. The state and maybe the town, that should be enough. Why would we want these workshops to continue in these places if the entire workshop has gone off in another direction not intended by MKP.
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Are you affiliated with MKP?
--- Quote ---Thanks Anne, for pointing this out. Please help me to gather this information, if you would. PM me if you would like with the information.
Men will always have their issues with women as women with men. What has not been healthy for so long is the reactions men have to the problems. The focus in my opinion should stay with me if I am troubled, especially if I do not know what is disturbance within me. Women find communicating with men much more advantageous if we are able to collectively broker the problems. (so to speak)
Thanks
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I dunno.....I've been blessed with an amazing husband. He can be annoying sometimes, but communication isn't really a problem between us. He's put up with me being a raging lunatic when I was first learning about what Straight did to me and he was more patient and understanding than I could ever ask for.
heretik:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "heretik" ---
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "heretik" ---There are many stories about MKP, most when viewed from the outside look very weird. Why are men (as you say here, Samara and Anne) running around naked and bashing fictitious womens heads with clubs. :) I can only say we are not.
I will say this in short, far to long have men been absent from their duties, we became lost. This is one way to regain the footing we gave up and be the men we are supposed to be.
I have found women (a true woman) find me more attractive in a innate way.
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All I can tell you is that the 1/2 dozen or so guys I've spoken with that have attended these "workshops" have had nothing but bad things to say about it. They said it felt very cult-like and that there was a ton of women bashing in them. They said it seemed like the leader(s) had some bad experiences with women and didn't know how to deal with it other than to blame society and proclaim that women had "stolen their masculinity". And that they're very, very angry about the ERA and see it as the beginning of the downfall of their (men's) reign.
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Well then, I would say to you keep your men far away from MKP, especially from the state that your speaking from and all other states. Because they are definitely experiencing a workshop that is not healthy. Very sad to hear this. I would like to get the workshops they attended please, not names, just the workshop. The state and maybe the town, that should be enough. Why would we want these workshops to continue in these places if the entire workshop has gone off in another direction not intended by MKP.
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Are you affiliated with MKP?
--- Quote ---Thanks Anne, for pointing this out. Please help me to gather this information, if you would. PM me if you would like with the information.
Men will always have their issues with women as women with men. What has not been healthy for so long is the reactions men have to the problems. The focus in my opinion should stay with me if I am troubled, especially if I do not know what is disturbance within me. Women find communicating with men much more advantageous if we are able to collectively broker the problems. (so to speak)
Thanks
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I dunno.....I've been blessed with an amazing husband. He can be annoying sometimes, but communication isn't really a problem between us. He's put up with me being a raging lunatic when I was first learning about what Straight did to me and he was more patient and understanding than I could ever ask for.
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The "WE" was a statement for you and I. Meaning why would Anne and heretik want these workshops going on. No I am not a employee. I know several people that would be very interested in your comments you made here today.
I was wondering if I could get the information I asked for, Anne.
Being blessed with an amazing husband is wonderful, Salute!! as I think you know is not the rule but the exception. Men want to change that, more and more men are saying every day, how can I be a better husband, Dad, friend ect....
Samara:
But why do men need a program to be men? Why would a program need NDA's and encounter groups? Why not BBQ, have a beer, watch a game, pay your bills, be generally honest and responsible, appreciate your S.O, communicate respectfully and fuck happily? It's not really that hard.
heretik:
--- Quote from: "Samara" ---But why do men need a program to be men? Why would a program need NDA's and encounter groups? Why not BBQ, have a beer, watch a game, pay your bills, be generally honest and responsible, appreciate your S.O, communicate respectfully and fuck happily? It's not really that hard.
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First let me ask you a few questions.
1. have kids
2. married
3. divorced
4. never married but have kids
5. was father of kids a decent man to his children.
6. was he a good man to you.
your answers should tell you, Samara. If it wasn't that hard everyone would be doing it.
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