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Parents Defend School’s Use of Shock Therapy
« on: December 27, 2007, 02:47:42 PM »
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Nearly a year ago, New York made plans to ban the use of electric shocks as a punishment for bad behavior, a therapy used at a Massachusetts school where New York State had long sent some of its most challenging special education students.

But state officials trying to limit New York’s association with the school, the Judge Rotenberg Educational Center in Canton, southwest of Boston, and its “aversive therapyâ€
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2007, 04:08:23 PM »
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Nearly a year ago, New York made plans to ban the use of electric shocks as a punishment for bad behavior, a therapy used at a Massachusetts school where New York State had long sent some of its most challenging special education students.

But state officials trying to limit New York’s association with the school, the Judge Rotenberg Educational Center in Canton, southwest of Boston, and its “aversive therapyâ€
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2007, 04:38:17 PM »
This is just plain out cruel and inhumane. It is worse that putting a shock collar on a dog do make him quit barking. With prolonged exposure to this behavioral modification the dog becomes scared of his own shadow and rather than protecting his home he cowers.

Same with the electric fence for cattle. After prolonged conditioning to being shocked once it reaches the fence, should an animal of prey such as a wolf come up, the cow is subject to allow the wolf to kill him for the fear of being shocked is there if he attempts to escape danger.

For the most part people understand that shocking is cruel and inhumane. As far as the judge goes, they should pick a unit at random from a kid and strap it on him and allow the lawyer to push the button. I would almost guarentee that the judge would over turn his decision only after making the staff wear the units for a week and him pushing the button at his leisure.

When it comes to behavioral modification, TheWho is a big advocate of this. He claims football teams use it, and even parents when they disapline a child. I wouldn't be supprised if this is a method he would condone for modifying behavior.

And as far as the parents that support these tactics, they are only seeing the programs promises being delivered at any cost to the child.
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2007, 11:13:49 PM »
The electronic decelerator used at Judge Rotenburg Education Center delivers an electric current of 3 to 45 milliamps. (A milliamp is 1/1000th of an amp.)

This is how that compares with other electrical shock devices.

- Electric dog collar 0.2 milliamp

- Brain electroshock therapy 900 milliamps

- Nerve stimulation therapy 1 milliamp

- Taser pistol 1 amp

- Heart defibrillator 1 amp
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2007, 01:27:30 PM »
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Taser pistol 1 amp


Bullshit. Tasers give much less. Go Google.

One amp through the center of the body WILL either kill you, or possibly restart your heart (which is why it's used in defibrillators).

Here's another puzzle:

Two electrified baseball bats, bearing charges of +600v and -600v, reach your head at 150 mph at approximately the same time. Do you die of head trauma or electrical shock? (Assume an unlimited source of charge.)
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2007, 03:18:30 PM »
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Here's another puzzle:

Two electrified baseball bats, bearing charges of +600v and -600v, reach your head at 150 mph at approximately the same time. Do you die of head trauma or electrical shock? (Assume an unlimited source of charge.)


Test your theory on Who!!!!  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2007, 04:34:00 PM »
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Here's another puzzle:

Two electrified baseball bats, bearing charges of +600v and -600v, reach your head at 150 mph at approximately the same time. Do you die of head trauma or electrical shock? (Assume an unlimited source of charge.)

Test your theory on Who!!!!  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:


If I remember my training (math) correctly:

Voltage generally isn’t going to hurt anyone, it’s the amperage.  A Taser delivers about 50,000 volts of DC current, but is low amperage and quickly dissipates.  Unless you have a heart condition you will do fine.  Your house has 120 Volts AC current.  There are many factors involved when delivering voltage to the human body.  One is the “2 points of contactâ€
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2007, 04:56:59 PM »
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(I would strongly suggest testing the settings out on someone you didnt like prior to using it, my numbers could be a little off).


Don't particularly like you, WHO. You wanna be the test-dummy?
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2007, 01:50:48 AM »
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Here's another puzzle:

Two electrified baseball bats, bearing charges of +600v and -600v, reach your head at 150 mph at approximately the same time. Do you die of head trauma or electrical shock? (Assume an unlimited source of charge.)

Test your theory on Who!!!!  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:


If I remember my training (math) correctly:

Voltage generally isn’t going to hurt anyone, it’s the amperage.  A Taser delivers about 50,000 volts of DC current, but is low amperage and quickly dissipates.  Unless you have a heart condition you will do fine.  Your house has 120 Volts AC current.  There are many factors involved when delivering voltage to the human body.  One is the “2 points of contactâ€
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2007, 07:38:23 AM »
I fail to see what the amount of volts or amps has to do with any of this. Should they be using shock collars in any form or fashion in the first place?

Ummm.. No...
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2007, 01:49:28 PM »
Whats next, regulations on how hard you can punch a child in joules or foot pounds?

Obfuscation by missing the point!
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2007, 03:30:25 PM »
JRC is actively engaged in classic brainwashing: Skinner demonstrated that the terror of random punishment is much more effective at modifying behavior than the punishment itself. Food is withheld and then students are punished for the natural physiological response of bad behavior. Brainwashing is not limited to the student. Staff is subjected to slaughter house videos. They are given impossibly complex rules of conduct and then are rewarded for turning in other staff members and punished if they do not. Desperate parents are shown outrageously opulent rooms (no GED packs on Mickey) and told this is their child’s last hope. New York pays huge amounts of money to dump troubled kids in this “prettyâ€
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2007, 06:57:31 PM »
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To Ms. Handon, this is a sign that her daughter is learning to control herself. When Crystal is too old for special education, her mother plans to keep her at home for good. In the meantime, however, she says her daughter is having too much fun.

“She loves that place,â€
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2007, 07:41:42 PM »
I was feeling sick
Losing my mind..
I heard about these treatments
From a good friend of mine
He was always happy
Smile on his face
He said he had a great time at that place...

Peace and love is here to stay
Now I can wake up and face the day
Happy happy happy all the time
Shock treatment, I'm doing fine..
Gimme gimme shock treatment.
Gimme gimme shock treatment.
Gimme gimme shock treatment.
I wanna, wanna shock treatment...


(captcha: 48th Church.)
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